Is the fact that we are being left out of a bowl actually hurts the Sun Belt that many of you will continue to call home. I know many of you are angry and bitter that we are leaving, but MT sitting at home does not move the Sun Belt forward. If we were in a bowl game the Sun Belt would have a record 5 teams bowling, which brings more prestige and money to the conference. The fact that Karl Benson could not manage to get all the SBC bowl eligible teams a bowl game, unlike the MAC commissioner, should show you that he is not fit for the position.

Yes, MT is the loser in this situation but it's only temporary. We will move on and be gone soon and have access to many bowls in CUSA. However, the big loser in this situation is the Sun Belt. You guys will continue to have Benson as your "leader" along with less money and prestige.

Don't blame the conference. Your team lost 45-0 in a game that mattered.
The fact that you guys got left and LATECH did, both C-USA recruits that just made the weekend so much better.

(12-03-2012 11:59 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  Is the fact that we are being left out of a bowl actually hurts the Sun Belt that many of you will continue to call home. I know many of you are angry and bitter that we are leaving, but MT sitting at home does not move the Sun Belt forward. If we were in a bowl game the Sun Belt would have a record 5 teams bowling, which brings more prestige and money to the conference. The fact that Karl Benson could not manage to get all the SBC bowl eligible teams a bowl game, unlike the MAC commissioner, should show you that he is not fit for the position.

Yes, MT is the loser in this situation but it's only temporary. We will move on and be gone soon and have access to many bowls in CUSA. However, the big loser in this situation is the Sun Belt. You guys will continue to have Benson as your "leader" along with less money and prestige.

Ga Southern and even Ga State being "I-A" will put a dent in Middle Tennessee's Georgia recruiting. 34 members of MTSU's current roster come from our territory and the I-AA stigma will be removed.

Two eligible teams were going to be left out. I'm just glad only one of them was from the Belt (and, since I'm a WKU fan, am I allowed to say I'm glad it was MUTS!)

Im not happy MTSU was left out. It does hurt our league. You guys were good members of our league. We've never had five qualify for bowls and one was left out because there weren't enough places. Sucks. Not everyone is jumping up and down because MTSU is getting left out.

I am happy that the one bid went to what is, for now, a continuing member. Its unfortunate. Would you expect anything different?

(12-03-2012 12:26 PM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 11:59 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  Is the fact that we are being left out of a bowl actually hurts the Sun Belt that many of you will continue to call home. I know many of you are angry and bitter that we are leaving, but MT sitting at home does not move the Sun Belt forward. If we were in a bowl game the Sun Belt would have a record 5 teams bowling, which brings more prestige and money to the conference. The fact that Karl Benson could not manage to get all the SBC bowl eligible teams a bowl game, unlike the MAC commissioner, should show you that he is not fit for the position.

Yes, MT is the loser in this situation but it's only temporary. We will move on and be gone soon and have access to many bowls in CUSA. However, the big loser in this situation is the Sun Belt. You guys will continue to have Benson as your "leader" along with less money and prestige.

Ga Southern and even Ga State being "I-A" will put a dent in Middle Tennessee's Georgia recruiting. 34 members of MTSU's current roster come from our territory and the I-AA stigma will be removed.

...and our Sun Belt stigma will be removed. Enjoy. We'll point to this year as a reason not to play in the Sun Belt - you may not get in a bowl game if you win 8 games. We play higher profile opponents, in higher profile places, with more bowls to go around. I guarantee you recruiting won't be an issue for us. If anything it's going to keep getting better.

(12-03-2012 11:59 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  Is the fact that we are being left out of a bowl actually hurts the Sun Belt that many of you will continue to call home. I know many of you are angry and bitter that we are leaving, but MT sitting at home does not move the Sun Belt forward. If we were in a bowl game the Sun Belt would have a record 5 teams bowling, which brings more prestige and money to the conference. The fact that Karl Benson could not manage to get all the SBC bowl eligible teams a bowl game, unlike the MAC commissioner, should show you that he is not fit for the position.

Yes, MT is the loser in this situation but it's only temporary. We will move on and be gone soon and have access to many bowls in CUSA. However, the big loser in this situation is the Sun Belt. You guys will continue to have Benson as your "leader" along with less money and prestige.

Here's the problem with that argument. Yes, "we" would have had 5 bowl teams. But, there's no doubt in my mind that the storyline of middle's bowl game by the announcers on ESPN2 would be "a Middle Tennessee team who's saying so long to the sunbelt conference to join the ranks of conference usa." It would be a glorified conference usa bowl game.

(11-24-2012 07:03 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  Enjoy sitting at home and watching us in our bowl.

:towel:

I tought SB had secondary tie-in with St Pete.
what happen thier?
Why did't Liberty bowl avoid rematch?

Do agree Benson can not gets schools in bowl games
1 yr he could not get Boise in Boise bowl

The problem is too many bowls which requires/forces 6-6 teams be allowed to play in them. The problem is conferences that have bowl tie-ins that go 8-10 deep in their conference (why would a 9th place SEC team be proud to go to a post-season bowl game?). The problem is AD's deciding where their teams go instead of the old days when the team voted on what bowl to accept an invitation to. The problem is having a 6-7 Georgia Tech team allowed to play in a bowl with a good chance to go 6-8 yet brag that they played in a bowl game. Stupid.

The fact that the Sunbelt had to "vote" on whether WKU or MT go to a particular bowl is another problem. The whole bowl system needs to be revamped.

(12-03-2012 12:26 PM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 11:59 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  Is the fact that we are being left out of a bowl actually hurts the Sun Belt that many of you will continue to call home. I know many of you are angry and bitter that we are leaving, but MT sitting at home does not move the Sun Belt forward. If we were in a bowl game the Sun Belt would have a record 5 teams bowling, which brings more prestige and money to the conference. The fact that Karl Benson could not manage to get all the SBC bowl eligible teams a bowl game, unlike the MAC commissioner, should show you that he is not fit for the position.

Yes, MT is the loser in this situation but it's only temporary. We will move on and be gone soon and have access to many bowls in CUSA. However, the big loser in this situation is the Sun Belt. You guys will continue to have Benson as your "leader" along with less money and prestige.

Ga Southern and even Ga State being "I-A" will put a dent in Middle Tennessee's Georgia recruiting. 34 members of MTSU's current roster come from our territory and the I-AA stigma will be removed.

Is it even close to official that GSU will be joining? I want them to, just asking. They and maybe app state. I don't know how they'll fare with a new coach. And for Troy fans wanting Blakeney gone, be careful what you wish for. New coach doesn't mean automatic sunbelt champs.

(12-03-2012 12:10 PM)jpm3985 Wrote:  Don't blame the conference. Your team lost 45-0 in a game that mattered.
The fact that you guys got left and LATECH did, both C-USA recruits that just made the weekend so much better.

The only effect that game had was who won. We could have lost in OT and we'd be exactly where we are right now.

(12-03-2012 11:59 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  Is the fact that we are being left out of a bowl actually hurts the Sun Belt that many of you will continue to call home. I know many of you are angry and bitter that we are leaving, but MT sitting at home does not move the Sun Belt forward. If we were in a bowl game the Sun Belt would have a record 5 teams bowling, which brings more prestige and money to the conference. The fact that Karl Benson could not manage to get all the SBC bowl eligible teams a bowl game, unlike the MAC commissioner, should show you that he is not fit for the position.

Yes, MT is the loser in this situation but it's only temporary. We will move on and be gone soon and have access to many bowls in CUSA. However, the big loser in this situation is the Sun Belt. You guys will continue to have Benson as your "leader" along with less money and prestige.

If its true that MTSU turned down the Military Bowl last week then you have no one to blame except MTSU. Someone made a decision to gamble on a better bowl and got burned badly. That would most certainly explain the tweets from your AD.

Point and laugh all you guys want. We got screwed. But we got screwed by a flaw in the SBC bowl system. It's happened to WKU before. It happened to Troy before.

I'm willing to be it happens again. Probably next year.

It's one of the myriad reasons that CUSA can have any one of you guys with a phone call. It's Waters/Benson's failure to make the SBC any more attractive than it was in years past. In their defense, until this year, we really didn't produce on the field to warrant it, but it is what it is.

Laugh all you want now, but remember this thread when one of us (or you, if we get out of here next year) is sitting at home next December, complaining about the selection process yet again.

(12-03-2012 01:10 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  If its true that MTSU turned down the Military Bowl last week then you have no one to blame except MTSU. Someone made a decision to gamble on a better bowl and got burned badly. That would most certainly explain the tweets from your AD.

I'm still waiting to see if this is true. There are conflicting reports.

If it is true, I agree with you - we played bowl roulette and lost.

If not true, then this is nothing short of a complete screw job and a failure of the SBC.

(12-03-2012 01:10 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 11:59 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  Is the fact that we are being left out of a bowl actually hurts the Sun Belt that many of you will continue to call home. I know many of you are angry and bitter that we are leaving, but MT sitting at home does not move the Sun Belt forward. If we were in a bowl game the Sun Belt would have a record 5 teams bowling, which brings more prestige and money to the conference. The fact that Karl Benson could not manage to get all the SBC bowl eligible teams a bowl game, unlike the MAC commissioner, should show you that he is not fit for the position.

Yes, MT is the loser in this situation but it's only temporary. We will move on and be gone soon and have access to many bowls in CUSA. However, the big loser in this situation is the Sun Belt. You guys will continue to have Benson as your "leader" along with less money and prestige.

He wouldn't have turned it down without assurances from Benson we could count on another bid.
If its true that MTSU turned down the Military Bowl last week then you have no one to blame except MTSU. Someone made a decision to gamble on a better bowl and got burned badly. That would most certainly explain the tweets from your AD.

(12-03-2012 01:12 PM)RaiderDoug Wrote:  Point and laugh all you guys want. We got screwed. But we got screwed by a flaw in the SBC bowl system. It's happened to WKU before. It happened to Troy before.

I'm willing to be it happens again. Probably next year.

It's one of the myriad reasons that CUSA can have any one of you guys with a phone call. It's Waters/Benson's failure to make the SBC any more attractive than it was in years past. In their defense, until this year, we really didn't produce on the field to warrant it, but it is what it is.

Laugh all you want now, but remember this thread when one of us (or you, if we get out of here next year) is sitting at home next December, complaining about the selection process yet again.

It's really a moo point if you did indeed turn down the military bowl, at which point all the blame rests on MTSU, and not the SBC. If it's true, then both MTSU and LaTech are sitting at home because they turned down bowl offers.

The lesson here, is if you're a sunbelt team, you don't turn down bowls, you take what you can get regardless if your commissioner thinks he can get a better bowl for your team.

(12-03-2012 01:15 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 01:10 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 11:59 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  Is the fact that we are being left out of a bowl actually hurts the Sun Belt that many of you will continue to call home. I know many of you are angry and bitter that we are leaving, but MT sitting at home does not move the Sun Belt forward. If we were in a bowl game the Sun Belt would have a record 5 teams bowling, which brings more prestige and money to the conference. The fact that Karl Benson could not manage to get all the SBC bowl eligible teams a bowl game, unlike the MAC commissioner, should show you that he is not fit for the position.

Yes, MT is the loser in this situation but it's only temporary. We will move on and be gone soon and have access to many bowls in CUSA. However, the big loser in this situation is the Sun Belt. You guys will continue to have Benson as your "leader" along with less money and prestige.

He wouldn't have turned it down without assurances from Benson we could count on another bid.
If its true that MTSU turned down the Military Bowl last week then you have no one to blame except MTSU. Someone made a decision to gamble on a better bowl and got burned badly. That would most certainly explain the tweets from your AD.

Ding, Ding, Ding

And that's not the only thing Benson screwed us on............... I'll leave it at that.

He was very deceitful. A snake in the grass.

Not good to burn bridges. MT played by the so-called SBC "rules".......

(12-03-2012 12:45 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 12:26 PM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 11:59 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  Is the fact that we are being left out of a bowl actually hurts the Sun Belt that many of you will continue to call home. I know many of you are angry and bitter that we are leaving, but MT sitting at home does not move the Sun Belt forward. If we were in a bowl game the Sun Belt would have a record 5 teams bowling, which brings more prestige and money to the conference. The fact that Karl Benson could not manage to get all the SBC bowl eligible teams a bowl game, unlike the MAC commissioner, should show you that he is not fit for the position.

Yes, MT is the loser in this situation but it's only temporary. We will move on and be gone soon and have access to many bowls in CUSA. However, the big loser in this situation is the Sun Belt. You guys will continue to have Benson as your "leader" along with less money and prestige.

Ga Southern and even Ga State being "I-A" will put a dent in Middle Tennessee's Georgia recruiting. 34 members of MTSU's current roster come from our territory and the I-AA stigma will be removed.

Is it even close to official that GSU will be joining? I want them to, just asking. They and maybe app state. I don't know how they'll fare with a new coach. And for Troy fans wanting Blakeney gone, be careful what you wish for. New coach doesn't mean automatic sunbelt champs.

Unless...

(12-03-2012 01:19 PM)stAtecamera13 Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 12:45 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 12:26 PM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 11:59 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  Is the fact that we are being left out of a bowl actually hurts the Sun Belt that many of you will continue to call home. I know many of you are angry and bitter that we are leaving, but MT sitting at home does not move the Sun Belt forward. If we were in a bowl game the Sun Belt would have a record 5 teams bowling, which brings more prestige and money to the conference. The fact that Karl Benson could not manage to get all the SBC bowl eligible teams a bowl game, unlike the MAC commissioner, should show you that he is not fit for the position.

Yes, MT is the loser in this situation but it's only temporary. We will move on and be gone soon and have access to many bowls in CUSA. However, the big loser in this situation is the Sun Belt. You guys will continue to have Benson as your "leader" along with less money and prestige.

Ga Southern and even Ga State being "I-A" will put a dent in Middle Tennessee's Georgia recruiting. 34 members of MTSU's current roster come from our territory and the I-AA stigma will be removed.

Is it even close to official that GSU will be joining? I want them to, just asking. They and maybe app state. I don't know how they'll fare with a new coach. And for Troy fans wanting Blakeney gone, be careful what you wish for. New coach doesn't mean automatic sunbelt champs.

Unless...

Yeah yeah. You realize your the exception, not the norm right? Congrats nonetheless, you guys are fun to watch and you can bet I'll be tuned in to watch you guys.

(12-03-2012 11:59 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  Is the fact that we are being left out of a bowl actually hurts the Sun Belt that many of you will continue to call home. I know many of you are angry and bitter that we are leaving, but MT sitting at home does not move the Sun Belt forward. If we were in a bowl game the Sun Belt would have a record 5 teams bowling, which brings more prestige and money to the conference. The fact that Karl Benson could not manage to get all the SBC bowl eligible teams a bowl game, unlike the MAC commissioner, should show you that he is not fit for the position.

Yes, MT is the loser in this situation but it's only temporary. We will move on and be gone soon and have access to many bowls in CUSA. However, the big loser in this situation is the Sun Belt. You guys will continue to have Benson as your "leader" along with less money and prestige.

1) MTSU deserved a bowl bid
2) WKU deserved a bowl bid
3) Anybody that believes Benson completely does not deserve a bowl bid
4) Benson punted to the Presidents who wisely chose not to stick their finger in that socket
5) Detroit chose the team that has been courting them....and the one that got left out last year

Do I think Benson mishandled the SBC bowl selections? Yes. Do I think it was with evil intent or cluelessness? Cluelessness. Do I think it was a conspiracy to punish MTSU for leaving? No.

I fully understand MTSU and fans being sour on Benson....but I don't think this needs to spoil years of good relations between MTSU and remaining Sun Belt members and the fan bases.