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(12-02-2012 01:33 PM)HERD-it-wuz-DJ Wrote:  I voted for these 3.
Arkansas State
Western Kentucky
Texas State

But it will probably be them 3 plus NMSU.

This is where I think CUSA is headed............
CUSA WEST--North Texas, UTEP, Tulsa, UTSA, Texas State, NMSU, Rice, Arkansas St, LaTech
CUSA EAST--FAU, FIU, Marshall, Southern Miss, Old Dominion, Charlotte, UAB, WKU, MTSU

Your sniffing is getting close. There will be some more losses but for conversation in addition to above add ULM and ULL to the West along with South Al and Troy in the East. Thats eleven on each side, playoff game, and travel expenses reduced considerably.
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12-02-2012 02:33 PM
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(12-02-2012 02:33 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  Your sniffing is getting close. There will be some more losses but for conversation in addition to above add ULM and ULL to the West along with South Al and Troy in the East. Thats eleven on each side, playoff game, and travel expenses reduced considerably.
I rest my case.
That's what the majority wants now.
The "losses" will be which of USM, Rice, TUlsa, and UTEP can find a way out (I would include UAB, but who knows with their BOT). These schools are now in the minority. But some of them voted to start this cavalcade, so maybe it's okay.
12-02-2012 02:49 PM
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(12-02-2012 02:21 PM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 01:50 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  JD, you are a great poster. Have been a great moderator on this board which is much appreciated by all.

CUSA lost a great academic school in Tulane....but when comparing athletics, (particularly football and basketball) its a no brainer that MTSU was an upgrade. Not only in athletics, but in facilities as well.

For Marshall's purposes, probably so. MTSU will be competitive member, win 5-7 games every year, just like Marshall. Make the NIT once in a while, just like Marshall. But in the meantime, C-USA is marginalizing other universities which, while struggling now, have superior resources, have shown the ability to put ranked teams on the field, have shown the ability to play upper level basketball. Keep doing it and you'll end up with the sunbelt's TV contract and a lot of regional football. And that may be what the now majority of C-USA wants, at this point.

Yup.
12-02-2012 03:38 PM
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(12-02-2012 02:33 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 01:33 PM)HERD-it-wuz-DJ Wrote:  I voted for these 3.
Arkansas State
Western Kentucky
Texas State

But it will probably be them 3 plus NMSU.

This is where I think CUSA is headed............
CUSA WEST--North Texas, UTEP, Tulsa, UTSA, Texas State, NMSU, Rice, Arkansas St, LaTech
CUSA EAST--FAU, FIU, Marshall, Southern Miss, Old Dominion, Charlotte, UAB, WKU, MTSU

Your sniffing is getting close. There will be some more losses but for conversation in addition to above add ULM and ULL to the West along with South Al and Troy in the East. Thats eleven on each side, playoff game, and travel expenses reduced considerably.

ULM & ULL won't get an invite as long as Tech's in CUSA
12-02-2012 03:42 PM
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(12-02-2012 03:42 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 02:33 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 01:33 PM)HERD-it-wuz-DJ Wrote:  I voted for these 3.
Arkansas State
Western Kentucky
Texas State

But it will probably be them 3 plus NMSU.

This is where I think CUSA is headed............
CUSA WEST--North Texas, UTEP, Tulsa, UTSA, Texas State, NMSU, Rice, Arkansas St, LaTech
CUSA EAST--FAU, FIU, Marshall, Southern Miss, Old Dominion, Charlotte, UAB, WKU, MTSU

Your sniffing is getting close. There will be some more losses but for conversation in addition to above add ULM and ULL to the West along with South Al and Troy in the East. Thats eleven on each side, playoff game, and travel expenses reduced considerably.

ULM & ULL won't get an invite as long as Tech's in CUSA


Tulane said the same thing...
12-02-2012 03:57 PM
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RE: If Tulsa and UTEP leave for the MWC......
Since we're looking at a lot of the top Sunbelt Conference programs, lets look at each school's average attendance for 2012:

1. Arkansas State...26,398
2. Louisiana...22,865
3. TROY...20,952
4. ULM...19,359
5. North Texas...18,927
6. MTSU...17,738

7. WKU...17,414
8. USA...16,793
9. FIU...13,634
10. FAU...13,459


Does this mean that stAte also needs to lower it's game attendance in order to give us a shot at getting in C-USA?
12-02-2012 04:06 PM
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Delaware to the East, Arkansas State to the West, USM to the West
Or Delaware & Western Kentucky to the East, USM & MTSU to the West.

Honestly, the only way I think you keep USM in the East is NM/Tx State/Arky State combination of some sort. But I'd rather either Delaware/WKU/Arky State in some combination of 2 of the 3.

I can't think of anyway to keep Marshall happy with losing a regular matchup with USM and/or MTSU other than picking up Tx State.
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Where the hell is Delaware on a map?
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Clearly Texas State, since that's Friday Night Lights was filmed for a few episodes.
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(12-02-2012 04:12 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Where the hell is Delaware on a map?

East of Maryland and south of Pennsylvania


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(12-02-2012 04:06 PM)gostAte870 Wrote:  Since we're looking at a lot of the top Sunbelt Conference programs, lets look at each school's average attendance for 2012:

1. Arkansas State...26,398
2. Louisiana...22,865
3. TROY...20,952
4. ULM...19,359
5. North Texas...18,927
6. MTSU...17,738

7. WKU...17,414
8. USA...16,793
9. FIU...13,634
10. FAU...13,459


Does this mean that stAte also needs to lower it's game attendance in order to give us a shot at getting in C-USA?

Are you around Dallas? Houston, New Orleans? Tampa? Orlando? No? Well there's your answer. I don't think Tulane averaged 5,000 actual bodies in the dome. And ECU 50'000+ and look what it took for them to move up. I don't like what's going on just like everybody else...
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(12-02-2012 04:49 PM)BkGold Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 04:06 PM)gostAte870 Wrote:  Since we're looking at a lot of the top Sunbelt Conference programs, lets look at each school's average attendance for 2012:

1. Arkansas State...26,398
2. Louisiana...22,865
3. TROY...20,952
4. ULM...19,359
5. North Texas...18,927
6. MTSU...17,738

7. WKU...17,414
8. USA...16,793
9. FIU...13,634
10. FAU...13,459


Does this mean that stAte also needs to lower it's game attendance in order to give us a shot at getting in C-USA?

Are you around Dallas? Houston, New Orleans? Tampa? Orlando? No? Well there's your answer. I don't think Tulane averaged 5,000 actual bodies in the dome. And ECU 50'000+ and look what it took for them to move up. I don't like what's going on just like everybody else...

Little Rock covers us as a local team since there are only two FBS programs in the state, and Memphis is only 45 minutes away. Is that worth anything?
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Why would either cut their $$$ in 1/2.
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(12-02-2012 06:44 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Why would either cut their $$$ in 1/2.

TV money. Staying in cusa could cut into ticket sales. UTEP and Tulsa need to look at the whole picture and not just TV money.
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At this point it is simply just that a rumor. I don't see either Tulsa or UTEP going anywhere soon.
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(12-02-2012 02:21 PM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 01:50 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  JD, you are a great poster. Have been a great moderator on this board which is much appreciated by all.

CUSA lost a great academic school in Tulane....but when comparing athletics, (particularly football and basketball) its a no brainer that MTSU was an upgrade. Not only in athletics, but in facilities as well.

For Marshall's purposes, probably so. MTSU will be competitive member, win 5-7 games every year, just like Marshall. Make the NIT once in a while, just like Marshall. But in the meantime, C-USA is marginalizing other universities which, while struggling now, have superior resources, have shown the ability to put ranked teams on the field, have shown the ability to play upper level basketball. Keep doing it and you'll end up with the sunbelt's TV contract and a lot of regional football. And that may be what the now majority of C-USA wants, at this point.


Marshal's purpose? How does it have anything to do with Marshall? In my opinion, it has to do with Tulane and the bad support they have for football and basketball in CUSA.

I personally will not miss seeing these type of photos from Tulane home games. IMO, its a bad reflection on the conference as a whole. For the longest time I have had these feelings but would never say anything on this board in reference to Tulane because of our conference affiliation and the respect I have for the Tulane posters on this board.

That being said, I congratulate Tulane on getting the Big East bid and maybe that will turn their program around. Hopefully getting an on campus stadium will help as well.






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I voted for everyone but Missouri State.
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I'll take "none of the above" for $100 Alex...
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(12-02-2012 07:14 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Marshal's purpose? How does it have anything to do with Marshall? In my opinion, it has to do with Tulane and the bad support they have for football and basketball in CUSA.
You're a marshall fan, aren't you. You see sunbelt schools as a trade up. And, again, for Marshall's purposes, it probably is. Other aspects of a conference and programs aren't important to you. Fair enough.
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Arkansas State and Texas State
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