It can't even get Arkansas State out of the Go-daddy bowl.

Good thing Steve Earhardft makes half a million a year.

Good thing we have him making our city proud.

WHich one pays more money?

It's lower than whale sh*t; and that's low.

LB is $1.3 million

Go Daddy is $750k

The Liberty Bowl will survive without the Indians and Black Bears invited to the game.

How many more threads do you need to start about the Liberty Bowl?


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Exactly...As a Tiger who cares?

We've never been Invited so we have no vested interest

georgiatiger,

I am sorry.

Would you prefer I made another Josh Pastner thread?

Here we go.

Do you guys think Pastner should let the players have a bathroom break in the second hald?

Discuss???

Just curious why you need multiple threads, but I don't think you know.


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(12-01-2012 09:22 PM)TIGERBANDIT Wrote:  It can't even get Arkansas State out of the Go-daddy bowl.

Good thing Steve Earhardft makes half a million a year.

Good thing we have him making our city proud.

the Liberty Bowl is a private business, Steve. is married , he is not interested in you.

The Tigers making the Liberty Bowl would not be good for the city...the hotels would suffer.....

Liberty Bowl is the wrong size for both the Tigers and the Bowl game. I know what Earhart sez about the number of seats needed but I believe he's wrong. It's few and far between games when a MSU or Arkansas will draw 60,000+. I hate seeing money still being tossed at the Liberty Bowl while it doesn't address its true limitations in today's college football business model.

The luxury is too far removed from the field. It's at the minimum 12,000 seats over needed capacity.

The ideal stadium for Memphis, and this is going to piss off the OCS folk, is an enclosed stadium downtown of around 52,000 that's high on suites and amenities, designed to host large concerts like U2, basketball events like the Elite 8, be part of a new convention center development where it could be used for exhibit space or host a large gatherings like Promise Keepers. Keep the lower bowl at around 35,000 and the upper decks on the sides made to be able to screen off and hide empties when not needed, have one end glass and the skyline visible.

A man with brains! Thank God! I agree with you. Memphis is on an island all
alone and we can only depend on ourselves! We should be bold creative and
innovative to destroy the old perceptions and build a new vision. I guess we
would need brillant leadership for that!

The University of Memphis doesn't need to be tied at the hip with Memphis city planners. That shortsightedness has never worked to our favor.


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(12-02-2012 12:27 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  Liberty Bowl is the wrong size for both the Tigers and the Bowl game. I know what Earhart sez about the number of seats needed but I believe he's wrong. It's few and far between games when a MSU or Arkansas will draw 60,000+. I hate seeing money still being tossed at the Liberty Bowl while it doesn't address its true limitations in today's college football business model.

The luxury is too far removed from the field. It's at the minimum 12,000 seats over needed capacity.

The ideal stadium for Memphis, and this is going to piss off the OCS folk, is an enclosed stadium downtown of around 52,000 that's high on suites and amenities, designed to host large concerts like U2, basketball events like the Elite 8, be part of a new convention center development where it could be used for exhibit space or host a large gatherings like Promise Keepers. Keep the lower bowl at around 35,000 and the upper decks on the sides made to be able to screen off and hide empties when not needed, have one end glass and the skyline visible.

Memphis doesn't need a stadium at all. It has two events a year that need the stadium. The Tigers have six to seven a year.

I don't think they would build a 50,000 seat stadium. I think they would build a 70,000 seat stadium. And that would be the kiss of death for Tiger football.

I've mentioned this before. Steve Earhart's worse decision was signing the deal with the SEC. The SEC is a big reason why the liberty bowl is looked down upon. I would have signed a deal with the big east.

Ignorance run amuck.

(12-02-2012 02:45 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 12:27 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  Liberty Bowl is the wrong size for both the Tigers and the Bowl game. I know what Earhart sez about the number of seats needed but I believe he's wrong. It's few and far between games when a MSU or Arkansas will draw 60,000+. I hate seeing money still being tossed at the Liberty Bowl while it doesn't address its true limitations in today's college football business model.

The luxury is too far removed from the field. It's at the minimum 12,000 seats over needed capacity.

The ideal stadium for Memphis, and this is going to piss off the OCS folk, is an enclosed stadium downtown of around 52,000 that's high on suites and amenities, designed to host large concerts like U2, basketball events like the Elite 8, be part of a new convention center development where it could be used for exhibit space or host a large gatherings like Promise Keepers. Keep the lower bowl at around 35,000 and the upper decks on the sides made to be able to screen off and hide empties when not needed, have one end glass and the skyline visible.

Memphis doesn't need a stadium at all. It has two events a year that need the stadium. The Tigers have six to seven a year.

I don't think they would build a 50,000 seat stadium. I think they would build a 70,000 seat stadium. And that would be the kiss of death for Tiger football.

The Liberty Bowl was expanded to chase NFL tail. This will now never happen and the dreams have died.

To say they would build a 70,000 stadium is nonsense.

Is the Forum an asset to Tiger Basketball or a drawback. That's the same question here. You say two events, It could easily be more. It being covered and climate controlled would instantly raise its standing for future conference tie ins with a new financial package.
I can think of lots of stuff that it could be used for besides the Classic and the Bowl. Name me the closest quality hotel near the Liberty Bowl?

A good place for it would be to relocate the 201P. That's a horrible location for that nonsense in Memphis in it's bid to renew downtown.

(12-02-2012 09:23 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 02:45 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 12:27 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  Liberty Bowl is the wrong size for both the Tigers and the Bowl game. I know what Earhart sez about the number of seats needed but I believe he's wrong. It's few and far between games when a MSU or Arkansas will draw 60,000+. I hate seeing money still being tossed at the Liberty Bowl while it doesn't address its true limitations in today's college football business model.

The luxury is too far removed from the field. It's at the minimum 12,000 seats over needed capacity.

The ideal stadium for Memphis, and this is going to piss off the OCS folk, is an enclosed stadium downtown of around 52,000 that's high on suites and amenities, designed to host large concerts like U2, basketball events like the Elite 8, be part of a new convention center development where it could be used for exhibit space or host a large gatherings like Promise Keepers. Keep the lower bowl at around 35,000 and the upper decks on the sides made to be able to screen off and hide empties when not needed, have one end glass and the skyline visible.

Memphis doesn't need a stadium at all. It has two events a year that need the stadium. The Tigers have six to seven a year.

I don't think they would build a 50,000 seat stadium. I think they would build a 70,000 seat stadium. And that would be the kiss of death for Tiger football.

The Liberty Bowl was expanded to chase NFL tail. This will now never happen and the dreams have died.

To say they would build a 70,000 stadium is nonsense.

Is the Forum an asset to Tiger Basketball or a drawback. That's the same question here. You say two events, It could easily be more. It being covered and climate controlled would instantly raise its standing for future conference tie ins with a new financial package.
I can think of lots of stuff that it could be used for besides the Classic and the Bowl. Name me the closest quality hotel near the Liberty Bowl?

A good place for it would be to relocate the 201P. That's a horrible location for that nonsense in Memphis in it's bid to renew downtown.

You can't compete with Atlanta and New Orleans with a smaller facility. Is there enough market to fill a smaller dome in the south? I don't think so, but maybe you're right.

Historically the idea was always to bring in marquee SEC games. That ship has sailed for good.

Does the FedExForum still have their guaranteed veto rights over other venues? That would have to be addressed. Downtown traffic and parking would be inadequate as it is currently for a facility like that. The real problem there would be when the FedExForum and the dome had events at the same time.

Still, I have no doubt something along these lines is on the drawing boards. The University needs to pursue its own on-campus project. If a domed downtown arena can make it without the Tigers then that's great. There is no economic advantage to the university to participate in the deal. And yeah, I know basketball has succeeded for years under this arrangement. Football, however, has failed for many more years under this arrangement. It doesn't work for Memphis football or for the city. It's time that partnership amicably ended and the two parties pursue what each really needs.