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(12-02-2012 12:15 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Typical ECU basketball. Until we can keep consistently recruiting better we aren't going to see much more improvement. Keep in mind some of these kids that have been anointed saviors by certain ECU posters are only freshmen.

Fair enough, but also remember we started 3 freshman and 2 sophomores tonight.
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(12-02-2012 12:11 AM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:45 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:26 PM)casstommy Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:20 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:09 PM)casstommy Wrote:  This is true, but is speaks to how poor St Lebo is instead of how great bobby was.

No..still total conjecture and speculation. Let's stick with things we know. Charlotte is the better BB program and won tonight. Let's leave it at that...Ok?03-idea


Well, I suppose Lebo could be a good coach, but the man has a 15 yr track record and it isn't a pretty one. At some point he has to prove something

I think he had a winning record at Auburn...another school not known for basketball. I have no idea at this point of his ability. He did take the same team that Mack left and improved them. Beyond that?...the rest is pure speculation.

Here's some non-speculation:

The man has been a head coach for 14 years at 4 different schools. In those 14 seasons, he's only been to the post-season 3 times...twice to the NIT and once to the CIT.

Auburn's not known for basketball? Now THAT'S speculation. Charles Barkley and Chuck Person played there. They were predicted to win the national title in the late 90's.

No...on the other side. As a player, he was a good point guard at UNC, overshadowed by Kenny Smith right before him though. You know who else played point guard at UNC? Larry Brown. He turned out to be a pretty good coach eventually too.

One thing that was alarming to me is that he never was an assistant under Smith at UNC. I know that's probably a pretty tough gig to get...but I always wondered if he didn't have ambition/guts enough to ask for a job or if he was wanted to and they didn't take him.

I am not defending Lebo. It is not coaching that I feel has held us back. I personally don't think ANY coach can win at ECU under its current paradigm unless it happened to be a "Bobby Knight" type that kids just wanted to play for. I have been nothing but consistent in that regard.
Putting a winning BB program in Greenville IS and HAS been probably one of the nations toughest challenges for basketball coach. It is a systemic problem of emphasis,schedule,location,and fan attitude.
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(12-02-2012 12:20 AM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 12:15 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Typical ECU basketball. Until we can keep consistently recruiting better we aren't going to see much more improvement. Keep in mind some of these kids that have been anointed saviors by certain ECU posters are only freshmen.

Fair enough, but also remember we started 3 freshman and 2 sophomores tonight.

Sure..No surprise...You are in a Metro area and have an A10 schedule to sell recruits. Bring Halton to Greenville.03-idea
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(12-01-2012 09:40 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 09:29 PM)Powerbait Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 09:25 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 09:21 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 09:16 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  ECU: I do not care for the reliance on the 3-point shot and frankly, our play inside-the-paint -both offensively and defensively- SUCKS DONKEY SHLONG. We got absolutely killed on the boards tonight and we gave up way too many second-chance buckets.

We need to play with more composure and "know" when to slow it down and know when to push it... at times we looked very disorganized tonight.

We really need the "big men" to get more involved in this offense; they need to move out of the paint, clear, and allow the guards to drive. Robert Sampson looked horrid all evening. We desperately miss Morrow down low.

As for Charlotte, they should have beat us by a larger margin but y'all do seem headed in the right direction. I'm particularly impressed with your hustle and offensive movement; I'm not sure where y'all are expected to finish in the A10 but I'll wish your team the best of luck.

We were actually projected to finish 12th in the A10. I suspect we've raised that to around 8 as of right now. This was our sloppiest game so far and we'll need to tighten the ball control against the LOLCats on Wednesday.

St. Andrews should help ECU get back on track. If the Pirates can find an inside game they should be a threat in conference play.

Agreed. I'll admit that I stopped watching basketball "seriously" years ago and that I'm a Bobby Knight disciple, which means that I hate the tempo that they game is played with nowadays and the sloppiness that comes with it. ECU had to have double-digit turnovers and I'm pretty sure that y'all scored at least 20 second-chance points due to a HUGE OR advantage; three good big-men could help us tremendously, as would a change of attitude regarding out tempo.

This is a pretty solid analysis of the game. As a Charlotte fan, I enjoyed our work on the low block and our movement in the half court set. I didn't like when we'd break the press and the force a sloppy pass into the paint. We did much better slowing down after breaking pressure and working the ball for a good shot.

I think the drive and kick worked well, but we definitely had your shooters flustered. They rushed shots and hit a couple of prayers. They were always looking over their shoulder.

I hate the way Lebo has your team playing because it reminds me of Bobby ball, but at least he uses a real defensive scheme.

Lebo is a good coach but frankly, he has one of the more difficult jobs in college basketball. Add to that, he has to get the players to listen to him...

We're probably middle of the pack in CUSA; we would get crushed in the A10 this year.

We will too! This year's record is a facade at best.
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(12-01-2012 11:55 PM)moss2k Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:45 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:26 PM)casstommy Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:20 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:09 PM)casstommy Wrote:  This is true, but is speaks to how poor St Lebo is instead of how great bobby was.

No..still total conjecture and speculation. Let's stick with things we know. Charlotte is the better BB program and won tonight. Let's leave it at that...Ok?03-idea


Well, I suppose Lebo could be a good coach, but the man has a 15 yr track record and it isn't a pretty one. At some point he has to prove something

I think he had a winning record at Auburn...another school not known for basketball. I have no idea at this point of his ability. He did take the same team that Mack left and improved them. Beyond that?...the rest is pure speculation.
Lebo was 96-93 at Auburn. He's been a head coach since 1998, never been to NCAA's, 2 NIT appearances and then the magical run to the CIT in his first year at ECU.

You left off the when he went to Auburn they were on NCAA probation.
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(12-02-2012 12:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 12:20 AM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 12:15 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Typical ECU basketball. Until we can keep consistently recruiting better we aren't going to see much more improvement. Keep in mind some of these kids that have been anointed saviors by certain ECU posters are only freshmen.

Fair enough, but also remember we started 3 freshman and 2 sophomores tonight.

Sure..No surprise...You are in a Metro area and have an A10 schedule to sell recruits. Bring Halton to Greenville.03-idea
Lutz couldn't recruit well in A10. Kids from Charlotte want to play ACC ball.

Major is selling Charlotte, not trying to sell the conference we are in.
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(12-02-2012 12:31 AM)moss2k Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 12:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 12:20 AM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 12:15 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Typical ECU basketball. Until we can keep consistently recruiting better we aren't going to see much more improvement. Keep in mind some of these kids that have been anointed saviors by certain ECU posters are only freshmen.

Fair enough, but also remember we started 3 freshman and 2 sophomores tonight.

Sure..No surprise...You are in a Metro area and have an A10 schedule to sell recruits. Bring Halton to Greenville.03-idea
Lutz couldn't recruit well in A10. Kids from Charlotte want to play ACC ball.

Major is selling Charlotte, not trying to sell the conference we are in.

I wish him continued good luck with that.04-cheers
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(12-02-2012 12:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 12:31 AM)moss2k Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 12:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 12:20 AM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 12:15 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Typical ECU basketball. Until we can keep consistently recruiting better we aren't going to see much more improvement. Keep in mind some of these kids that have been anointed saviors by certain ECU posters are only freshmen.

Fair enough, but also remember we started 3 freshman and 2 sophomores tonight.

Sure..No surprise...You are in a Metro area and have an A10 schedule to sell recruits. Bring Halton to Greenville.03-idea
Lutz couldn't recruit well in A10. Kids from Charlotte want to play ACC ball.

Major is selling Charlotte, not trying to sell the conference we are in.

I wish him continued good luck with that.04-cheers

I really hope he can continue bringing in the quality of players he has brought in so far.
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(12-02-2012 12:30 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:55 PM)moss2k Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:45 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:26 PM)casstommy Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:20 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  No..still total conjecture and speculation. Let's stick with things we know. Charlotte is the better BB program and won tonight. Let's leave it at that...Ok?03-idea


Well, I suppose Lebo could be a good coach, but the man has a 15 yr track record and it isn't a pretty one. At some point he has to prove something

I think he had a winning record at Auburn...another school not known for basketball. I have no idea at this point of his ability. He did take the same team that Mack left and improved them. Beyond that?...the rest is pure speculation.
Lebo was 96-93 at Auburn. He's been a head coach since 1998, never been to NCAA's, 2 NIT appearances and then the magical run to the CIT in his first year at ECU.

You left off the when he went to Auburn they were on NCAA probation.

He sucks ass....lets just admit it. Fire him and torch all things related to basketball and never mention the sport again at ECU..04-cheers
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(12-02-2012 12:30 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:55 PM)moss2k Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:45 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:26 PM)casstommy Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:20 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  No..still total conjecture and speculation. Let's stick with things we know. Charlotte is the better BB program and won tonight. Let's leave it at that...Ok?03-idea


Well, I suppose Lebo could be a good coach, but the man has a 15 yr track record and it isn't a pretty one. At some point he has to prove something

I think he had a winning record at Auburn...another school not known for basketball. I have no idea at this point of his ability. He did take the same team that Mack left and improved them. Beyond that?...the rest is pure speculation.
Lebo was 96-93 at Auburn. He's been a head coach since 1998, never been to NCAA's, 2 NIT appearances and then the magical run to the CIT in his first year at ECU.

You left off the when he went to Auburn they were on NCAA probation.
They were on probation for 6 years? Final year was 2 games under .500.

I haven't seen anything from Lebo that proves to me that I'd want him coaching at my program. How long is he under contract there, I know ECU gave him an extension at some point.
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(12-02-2012 12:42 AM)moss2k Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 12:30 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:55 PM)moss2k Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:45 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:26 PM)casstommy Wrote:  Well, I suppose Lebo could be a good coach, but the man has a 15 yr track record and it isn't a pretty one. At some point he has to prove something

I think he had a winning record at Auburn...another school not known for basketball. I have no idea at this point of his ability. He did take the same team that Mack left and improved them. Beyond that?...the rest is pure speculation.
Lebo was 96-93 at Auburn. He's been a head coach since 1998, never been to NCAA's, 2 NIT appearances and then the magical run to the CIT in his first year at ECU.

You left off the when he went to Auburn they were on NCAA probation.
They were on probation for 6 years? Final year was 2 games under .500.

I haven't seen anything from Lebo that proves to me that I'd want him coaching at my program. How long is he under contract there, I know ECU gave him an extension at some point.

I agree...He sucks ass...in fact...ECU sucks ass. We swim in ass.04-cheers
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(12-02-2012 12:30 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:55 PM)moss2k Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:45 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:26 PM)casstommy Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:20 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  No..still total conjecture and speculation. Let's stick with things we know. Charlotte is the better BB program and won tonight. Let's leave it at that...Ok?03-idea


Well, I suppose Lebo could be a good coach, but the man has a 15 yr track record and it isn't a pretty one. At some point he has to prove something

I think he had a winning record at Auburn...another school not known for basketball. I have no idea at this point of his ability. He did take the same team that Mack left and improved them. Beyond that?...the rest is pure speculation.
Lebo was 96-93 at Auburn. He's been a head coach since 1998, never been to NCAA's, 2 NIT appearances and then the magical run to the CIT in his first year at ECU.

You left off the when he went to Auburn they were on NCAA probation.

Meh. Overstated. Ask Scott Drew about coaching under probation. Or ask Terry Bowden about his record at Auburn coming in under probation.
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I am going to miss ECU because I think we were just beginning to gel into a brotherly relationship where we can hate each other, but don't let anyone else (ACC teams) screw with the other. Good luck in your new conference(s). I am not sure you are going to be as happy there as you think, but I don't blame you for going.

As for Lebo, I have seen this movie before. A team built on transfers firing desperation 3s leads to heartbreak, but you will figure this out for yourself soon enough. Looking back it was the transfers and JUCOs that probably killed us. Next time we give you some friendly advice --don't waste a scholarship on Bowden--just listen to us. Or we will put your head in the toilet. Again.
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(12-02-2012 01:15 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  I am going to miss ECU because I think we were just beginning to gel into a brotherly relationship where we can hate each other, but don't let anyone else (ACC teams) screw with the other. Good luck in your new conference(s). I am not sure you are going to be as happy there as you think, but I don't blame you for going.

As for Lebo, I have seen this movie before. A team built on transfers firing desperation 3s leads to heartbreak, but you will figure this out for yourself soon enough. Looking back it was the transfers and JUCOs that probably killed us. Next time we give you some friendly advice --don't waste a scholarship on Bowden--just listen to us. Or we will put your head in the toilet. Again.

We'll still play in all sports if I were to imagine; the NCSU series is ending and I don't see it continuing. I would imagine that we will want to schedule Marshall, ODU, USM and Charlotte far into the future on a recurring basis. If it were me, I would try to play Marshall one year and USM the next; ODU once every three years and Charlotte once every three years.

After these basketball beatings, I hope that we get y'all in football very soon LOL.

As for the conference stuff... it's all about to wind down or more movement will happen shortly; either the ACC loses more teams or nothing else will happen for at least 10 years. As for ECU, we just want to be in the "Best of the Rest Conference" when the dust settles... and if I had to guess, that BOTR Conference will consist of established teams scattered all over the map, all sports, with 16-18 teams in total.

Good luck to y'all the rest of the season!
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(12-01-2012 11:20 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:09 PM)casstommy Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 10:59 PM)919R Wrote:  Please. Lebo couldn't hold Lutz jock.

This is true, but is speaks to how poor St Lebo is instead of how great bobby was.

No..still total conjecture and speculation. Let's stick with things we know. Charlotte is the better BB program and won tonight. Let's leave it at that...Ok?03-idea

(12-02-2012 12:37 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 12:30 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:55 PM)moss2k Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:45 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 11:26 PM)casstommy Wrote:  Well, I suppose Lebo could be a good coach, but the man has a 15 yr track record and it isn't a pretty one. At some point he has to prove something

I think he had a winning record at Auburn...another school not known for basketball. I have no idea at this point of his ability. He did take the same team that Mack left and improved them. Beyond that?...the rest is pure speculation.
Lebo was 96-93 at Auburn. He's been a head coach since 1998, never been to NCAA's, 2 NIT appearances and then the magical run to the CIT in his first year at ECU.

You left off the when he went to Auburn they were on NCAA probation.

He sucks ass....lets just admit it. Fire him and torch all things related to basketball and never mention the sport again at ECU..04-cheers




I'm really glad the good the ECU posters came out in this thread, can't give any more rep points on some of the thoughts you guys put up. Blunderbuss and Bondsjons even put up some solid points.....touche Mayans 04-bow


ECU needs to get it done in the nBE and schedule some home and home in football with us and we can do the same with bball 04-cheers
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(12-01-2012 09:22 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  St. Andrews is just going to make us think we fixed issues when we really didn't. These are the types of games we need to play. Playing nobodies doesn't do us any good. You don't gain anything by playing those garbage games, and in fact they just slow the growth process of a team down.

Yup. We will be halfway into our conference schedule before we adjust to playing solid teams game after game.
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