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RE: ECU @ Charlotte: Rivalry of The Eastern Messiah vs The Black Samurai
(11-24-2012 09:36 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:29 PM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 08:51 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 06:22 PM)HXC NINER Wrote:  ... Charlotte is tough defensively and should be more dominant in the interior. We are much bigger and more athletic this year. On the other hand, ECU has multiple 3 pt threats and shooters. It will be interesting to see if they can get hot this game with Charlotte's stifling defense, as a few players, namely Bowden, have struggled with consistency this year from the perimeter. Kemp and Paul seem to have made up for others's struggles though. My prediction is a 10+ point Charlotte victory with the home advantage. 76-63. I'm sure there are plenty who disagree, but hey, that's what rivalries are for, right?

My prediction is that Charlotte will turn the ball over about 20 times, in almost every game; because you don't have a point guard. I have watched each of Charlotte's games in this Alasakan shootout and the thing that just jumped out at me is that if you guys are pressed; then the opposing team is going to have a layup clinic; because Charlotte can't handle the ball. I like your coach, because he mixes things up; but until he gets you all a true point guard or coach up your reluctant freshman point guard, then you all are going to turn the ball over a lot.

I think that ECU is going to give you all a lot of problems at the guard position, because ECU's guard play is better. I think that Charlotte will have the advantage at one wing position (you have a guy at about "6'5" or "6'6" that can put the ball on the floor (Terrence Williams?)); because ECU's best wing defender that would be assigned to Williams is out for the year with a leg injury. Since Williams is not a great shooter, then that advantage for Charlotte may actually be negated.

However, you are way wrong about the interior size. ECU has 4 or 5 guys that regulary get minutes that are between "6'8" and "6'11" that are betwen 240 and 250. Three of them are not only rugged, but they are actually skilled passers and shooters. Here is one of them right here:
http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-baskb...12aab.html

You are aware our PG is the player the commentators were ranting and raving about being the best player on the court... correct? Pierria Henry... he's pretty good dude... and he's a sophomore, not a freshman. I guess he has had a large number of TO's though.

I don't say that trying to be derogatory, but this is the second post I've seen you say that about our PG, just wanted to make sure you had the right guy.

But, your PG will be matched up against Miguel Paul, pre-season all C-USA player, who doesn't turn it over alot and does a good job of picking other's pockets.


Pierra Henry finished 7th in steals per game last season... as a freshman.

Our big guys aren't in the rotation in Alaska because we are playing small teams and we are a defensive team. Our defense is more effective with comparable size, if we played our 6'10" center against their 6'7" PF's our C wouldn't be able to keep up. Your chubby white boy will get his best though.

We are ranked 14th in the NCAA in points in posession, ECU will score 70 at most against us.

Niners will get a double-digit win. The only question is who will replace Morrow's 0 points in the game this year.
11-24-2012 09:47 PM
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RE: ECU @ Charlotte: Rivalry of The Eastern Messiah vs The Black Samurai
(11-24-2012 09:40 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:36 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:29 PM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 08:51 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 06:22 PM)HXC NINER Wrote:  ... Charlotte is tough defensively and should be more dominant in the interior. We are much bigger and more athletic this year. On the other hand, ECU has multiple 3 pt threats and shooters. It will be interesting to see if they can get hot this game with Charlotte's stifling defense, as a few players, namely Bowden, have struggled with consistency this year from the perimeter. Kemp and Paul seem to have made up for others's struggles though. My prediction is a 10+ point Charlotte victory with the home advantage. 76-63. I'm sure there are plenty who disagree, but hey, that's what rivalries are for, right?

My prediction is that Charlotte will turn the ball over about 20 times, in almost every game; because you don't have a point guard. I have watched each of Charlotte's games in this Alasakan shootout and the thing that just jumped out at me is that if you guys are pressed; then the opposing team is going to have a layup clinic; because Charlotte can't handle the ball. I like your coach, because he mixes things up; but until he gets you all a true point guard or coach up your reluctant freshman point guard, then you all are going to turn the ball over a lot.

I think that ECU is going to give you all a lot of problems at the guard position, because ECU's guard play is better. I think that Charlotte will have the advantage at one wing position (you have a guy at about "6'5" or "6'6" that can put the ball on the floor (Terrence Williams?)); because ECU's best wing defender that would be assigned to Williams is out for the year with a leg injury. Since Williams is not a great shooter, then that advantage for Charlotte may actually be negated.

However, you are way wrong about the interior size. ECU has 4 or 5 guys that regulary get minutes that are between "6'8" and "6'11" that are betwen 240 and 250. Three of them are not only rugged, but they are actually skilled passers and shooters. Here is one of them right here:
http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-baskb...12aab.html

You are aware our PG is the player the commentators were ranting and raving about being the best player on the court... correct? Pierria Henry... he's pretty good dude... and he's a sophomore, not a freshman. I guess he has had a large number of TO's though.

I don't say that trying to be derogatory, but this is the second post I've seen you say that about our PG, just wanted to make sure you had the right guy.

But, your PG will be matched up against Miguel Paul, pre-season all C-USA player, who doesn't turn it over alot and does a good job of picking other's pockets.

Good job of picking other's pockets? You mean like 7th in the nation last year as a freshman or 15th in the nation so far this year as a sophomore? Oh no, that's right. That would be Pierria Henry, our PG.

15 steals to 14 TO, yes doing good picking pockets, but is turning it over a bit much.

In fact you have 4 players with over 10 TO's and another with 9. While ECU has no one with over 6.

ECU has 42 TO's, Charlotte 75 TO's

As a team Charlotte has only 10 more steals than ECU.
11-24-2012 10:01 PM
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RE: ECU @ Charlotte: Rivalry of The Eastern Messiah vs The Black Samurai
(11-24-2012 10:01 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:40 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:36 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:29 PM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 08:51 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  My prediction is that Charlotte will turn the ball over about 20 times, in almost every game; because you don't have a point guard. I have watched each of Charlotte's games in this Alasakan shootout and the thing that just jumped out at me is that if you guys are pressed; then the opposing team is going to have a layup clinic; because Charlotte can't handle the ball. I like your coach, because he mixes things up; but until he gets you all a true point guard or coach up your reluctant freshman point guard, then you all are going to turn the ball over a lot.

I think that ECU is going to give you all a lot of problems at the guard position, because ECU's guard play is better. I think that Charlotte will have the advantage at one wing position (you have a guy at about "6'5" or "6'6" that can put the ball on the floor (Terrence Williams?)); because ECU's best wing defender that would be assigned to Williams is out for the year with a leg injury. Since Williams is not a great shooter, then that advantage for Charlotte may actually be negated.

However, you are way wrong about the interior size. ECU has 4 or 5 guys that regulary get minutes that are between "6'8" and "6'11" that are betwen 240 and 250. Three of them are not only rugged, but they are actually skilled passers and shooters. Here is one of them right here:
http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-baskb...12aab.html

You are aware our PG is the player the commentators were ranting and raving about being the best player on the court... correct? Pierria Henry... he's pretty good dude... and he's a sophomore, not a freshman. I guess he has had a large number of TO's though.

I don't say that trying to be derogatory, but this is the second post I've seen you say that about our PG, just wanted to make sure you had the right guy.

But, your PG will be matched up against Miguel Paul, pre-season all C-USA player, who doesn't turn it over alot and does a good job of picking other's pockets.

Good job of picking other's pockets? You mean like 7th in the nation last year as a freshman or 15th in the nation so far this year as a sophomore? Oh no, that's right. That would be Pierria Henry, our PG.

15 steals to 14 TO, yes doing good picking pockets, but is turning it over a bit much.

In fact you have 4 players with over 10 TO's and another with 9. While ECU has no one with over 6.

ECU has 42 TO's, Charlotte 75 TO's

As a team Charlotte has only 10 more steals than ECU.

YOU ARE GOING TO USE CUMULATIVE STATS WHEN YOU HAVE PLAYED TWO NON-D1 GAMES AND ONE LESS GAME THAN US?!?!?!?!
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RE: ECU @ Charlotte: Rivalry of The Eastern Messiah vs The Black Samurai
(11-24-2012 09:47 PM)itsbraille49 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:36 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:29 PM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 08:51 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 06:22 PM)HXC NINER Wrote:  ... Charlotte is tough defensively and should be more dominant in the interior. We are much bigger and more athletic this year. On the other hand, ECU has multiple 3 pt threats and shooters. It will be interesting to see if they can get hot this game with Charlotte's stifling defense, as a few players, namely Bowden, have struggled with consistency this year from the perimeter. Kemp and Paul seem to have made up for others's struggles though. My prediction is a 10+ point Charlotte victory with the home advantage. 76-63. I'm sure there are plenty who disagree, but hey, that's what rivalries are for, right?

My prediction is that Charlotte will turn the ball over about 20 times, in almost every game; because you don't have a point guard. I have watched each of Charlotte's games in this Alasakan shootout and the thing that just jumped out at me is that if you guys are pressed; then the opposing team is going to have a layup clinic; because Charlotte can't handle the ball. I like your coach, because he mixes things up; but until he gets you all a true point guard or coach up your reluctant freshman point guard, then you all are going to turn the ball over a lot.

I think that ECU is going to give you all a lot of problems at the guard position, because ECU's guard play is better. I think that Charlotte will have the advantage at one wing position (you have a guy at about "6'5" or "6'6" that can put the ball on the floor (Terrence Williams?)); because ECU's best wing defender that would be assigned to Williams is out for the year with a leg injury. Since Williams is not a great shooter, then that advantage for Charlotte may actually be negated.

However, you are way wrong about the interior size. ECU has 4 or 5 guys that regulary get minutes that are between "6'8" and "6'11" that are betwen 240 and 250. Three of them are not only rugged, but they are actually skilled passers and shooters. Here is one of them right here:
http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-baskb...12aab.html

You are aware our PG is the player the commentators were ranting and raving about being the best player on the court... correct? Pierria Henry... he's pretty good dude... and he's a sophomore, not a freshman. I guess he has had a large number of TO's though.

I don't say that trying to be derogatory, but this is the second post I've seen you say that about our PG, just wanted to make sure you had the right guy.

But, your PG will be matched up against Miguel Paul, pre-season all C-USA player, who doesn't turn it over alot and does a good job of picking other's pockets.


Pierra Henry finished 7th in steals per game last season... as a freshman.

Our big guys aren't in the rotation in Alaska because we are playing small teams and we are a defensive team. Our defense is more effective with comparable size, if we played our 6'10" center against their 6'7" PF's our C wouldn't be able to keep up. Your chubby white boy will get his best though.
We are ranked 14th in the NCAA in points in posession, ECU will score 70 at most against us.

Niners will get a double-digit win. The only question is who will replace Morrow's 0 points in the game this year.

Ah, he ain't chubby and as a freshman has matched up very well against every one he's faced thus far.

As far as our Center's go, we have played 4 guys inside this year, Guilmette 6'10, Zangari 6'9, Armstong 6'9, Kolo 6'10, the biggest guy. Kolo hasn't played much as of late for simular reasons, doesn't match up well against smaller lines and Centers. And they will be scoring points.
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RE: ECU @ Charlotte: Rivalry of The Eastern Messiah vs The Black Samurai
(11-24-2012 10:04 PM)itsbraille49 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 10:01 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:40 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:36 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:29 PM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  You are aware our PG is the player the commentators were ranting and raving about being the best player on the court... correct? Pierria Henry... he's pretty good dude... and he's a sophomore, not a freshman. I guess he has had a large number of TO's though.

I don't say that trying to be derogatory, but this is the second post I've seen you say that about our PG, just wanted to make sure you had the right guy.

But, your PG will be matched up against Miguel Paul, pre-season all C-USA player, who doesn't turn it over alot and does a good job of picking other's pockets.

Good job of picking other's pockets? You mean like 7th in the nation last year as a freshman or 15th in the nation so far this year as a sophomore? Oh no, that's right. That would be Pierria Henry, our PG.

15 steals to 14 TO, yes doing good picking pockets, but is turning it over a bit much.

In fact you have 4 players with over 10 TO's and another with 9. While ECU has no one with over 6.

ECU has 42 TO's, Charlotte 75 TO's

As a team Charlotte has only 10 more steals than ECU.

YOU ARE GOING TO USE CUMULATIVE STATS WHEN YOU HAVE PLAYED TWO NON-D1 GAMES AND ONE LESS GAME THAN US?!?!?!?!

^^ okay, that's pretty funny
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RE: ECU @ Charlotte: Rivalry of The Eastern Messiah vs The Black Samurai
(11-24-2012 10:04 PM)itsbraille49 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 10:01 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:40 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:36 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:29 PM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  You are aware our PG is the player the commentators were ranting and raving about being the best player on the court... correct? Pierria Henry... he's pretty good dude... and he's a sophomore, not a freshman. I guess he has had a large number of TO's though.

I don't say that trying to be derogatory, but this is the second post I've seen you say that about our PG, just wanted to make sure you had the right guy.

But, your PG will be matched up against Miguel Paul, pre-season all C-USA player, who doesn't turn it over alot and does a good job of picking other's pockets.

Good job of picking other's pockets? You mean like 7th in the nation last year as a freshman or 15th in the nation so far this year as a sophomore? Oh no, that's right. That would be Pierria Henry, our PG.

15 steals to 14 TO, yes doing good picking pockets, but is turning it over a bit much.

In fact you have 4 players with over 10 TO's and another with 9. While ECU has no one with over 6.

ECU has 42 TO's, Charlotte 75 TO's

As a team Charlotte has only 10 more steals than ECU.

YOU ARE GOING TO USE CUMULATIVE STATS WHEN YOU HAVE PLAYED TWO NON-D1 GAMES AND ONE LESS GAME THAN US?!?!?!?!

Piss off about the non-D-1's, you think I like them? no

Get over our schedule all ready, hell we don't even has the worst one in C-USA.

Charlotte has nearly twice as many TO's as ECU, yes we played 2 non-D-1 and one less game, but IMO that doesn't make up the difference. maybe if it were 42 to 58. 75 in the first 5 games is a bit much IMO.
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RE: ECU @ Charlotte: Rivalry of The Eastern Messiah vs The Black Samurai
(11-24-2012 10:17 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 10:04 PM)itsbraille49 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 10:01 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:40 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:36 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  But, your PG will be matched up against Miguel Paul, pre-season all C-USA player, who doesn't turn it over alot and does a good job of picking other's pockets.

Good job of picking other's pockets? You mean like 7th in the nation last year as a freshman or 15th in the nation so far this year as a sophomore? Oh no, that's right. That would be Pierria Henry, our PG.

15 steals to 14 TO, yes doing good picking pockets, but is turning it over a bit much.

In fact you have 4 players with over 10 TO's and another with 9. While ECU has no one with over 6.

ECU has 42 TO's, Charlotte 75 TO's

As a team Charlotte has only 10 more steals than ECU.

YOU ARE GOING TO USE CUMULATIVE STATS WHEN YOU HAVE PLAYED TWO NON-D1 GAMES AND ONE LESS GAME THAN US?!?!?!?!

Piss off about the non-D-1's, you think I like them? no

Get over our schedule all ready, hell we don't even has the worst one in C-USA.

Charlotte has nearly twice as many TO's as ECU, yes we played 2 non-D-1 and one less game, but IMO that doesn't make up the difference. maybe if it were 42 to 58. 75 in the first 5 games is a bit much IMO.

I will piss off about them, in this context, when you observe their statistical irrelevance.

Against UNCG and App, ECU is averaging 11.5 TOPG while forcing 13.5.

Through five games Charlotte is averaging 15 TOPG and are forcing 17.6, and two of our games have been on a neutral court.

We are winning the turnover margin battle +2.6 to +2.0. I can do stats too.
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RE: ECU @ Charlotte: Rivalry of The Eastern Messiah vs The Black Samurai
(11-24-2012 09:29 PM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 08:51 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 06:22 PM)HXC NINER Wrote:  ... Charlotte is tough defensively and should be more dominant in the interior. We are much bigger and more athletic this year. On the other hand, ECU has multiple 3 pt threats and shooters. It will be interesting to see if they can get hot this game with Charlotte's stifling defense, as a few players, namely Bowden, have struggled with consistency this year from the perimeter. Kemp and Paul seem to have made up for others's struggles though. My prediction is a 10+ point Charlotte victory with the home advantage. 76-63. I'm sure there are plenty who disagree, but hey, that's what rivalries are for, right?

My prediction is that Charlotte will turn the ball over about 20 times, in almost every game; because you don't have a point guard. I have watched each of Charlotte's games in this Alasakan shootout and the thing that just jumped out at me is that if you guys are pressed; then the opposing team is going to have a layup clinic; because Charlotte can't handle the ball. I like your coach, because he mixes things up; but until he gets you all a true point guard or coach up your reluctant freshman point guard, then you all are going to turn the ball over a lot.

I think that ECU is going to give you all a lot of problems at the guard position, because ECU's guard play is better. I think that Charlotte will have the advantage at one wing position (you have a guy at about "6'5" or "6'6" that can put the ball on the floor (Terrence Williams?)); because ECU's best wing defender that would be assigned to Williams is out for the year with a leg injury. Since Williams is not a great shooter, then that advantage for Charlotte may actually be negated.

However, you are way wrong about the interior size. ECU has 4 or 5 guys that regulary get minutes that are between "6'8" and "6'11" that are betwen 240 and 250. Three of them are not only rugged, but they are actually skilled passers and shooters. Here is one of them right here:
http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-baskb...12aab.html

You are aware our PG is the player the commentators were ranting and raving about being the best player on the court... correct? Pierria Henry... he's pretty good dude... and he's a sophomore, not a freshman. I guess he has had a large number of TO's though.

I don't say that trying to be derogatory, but this is the second post I've seen you say that about our PG, just wanted to make sure you had the right guy.

The freshman that I was referring to was Ingram. He is not very good. BTW, I know who Henry is; he was number 15, but he is not a true point guard either. He looks like a 2 guard that has been switched to point, but he is not going to be able to stay in front of a true point guard. BTW, Texas State and Oral Roberts were as awful as some of those D2's that ECU plays; and Charlotte had trouble with them both. If I can stay up I will watch that game against Northeastern, because it might be a decent game.
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RE: ECU @ Charlotte: Rivalry of The Eastern Messiah vs The Black Samurai
(11-24-2012 09:40 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:36 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:29 PM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 08:51 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 06:22 PM)HXC NINER Wrote:  ... Charlotte is tough defensively and should be more dominant in the interior. We are much bigger and more athletic this year. On the other hand, ECU has multiple 3 pt threats and shooters. It will be interesting to see if they can get hot this game with Charlotte's stifling defense, as a few players, namely Bowden, have struggled with consistency this year from the perimeter. Kemp and Paul seem to have made up for others's struggles though. My prediction is a 10+ point Charlotte victory with the home advantage. 76-63. I'm sure there are plenty who disagree, but hey, that's what rivalries are for, right?

My prediction is that Charlotte will turn the ball over about 20 times, in almost every game; because you don't have a point guard. I have watched each of Charlotte's games in this Alasakan shootout and the thing that just jumped out at me is that if you guys are pressed; then the opposing team is going to have a layup clinic; because Charlotte can't handle the ball. I like your coach, because he mixes things up; but until he gets you all a true point guard or coach up your reluctant freshman point guard, then you all are going to turn the ball over a lot.

I think that ECU is going to give you all a lot of problems at the guard position, because ECU's guard play is better. I think that Charlotte will have the advantage at one wing position (you have a guy at about "6'5" or "6'6" that can put the ball on the floor (Terrence Williams?)); because ECU's best wing defender that would be assigned to Williams is out for the year with a leg injury. Since Williams is not a great shooter, then that advantage for Charlotte may actually be negated.

However, you are way wrong about the interior size. ECU has 4 or 5 guys that regulary get minutes that are between "6'8" and "6'11" that are betwen 240 and 250. Three of them are not only rugged, but they are actually skilled passers and shooters. Here is one of them right here:
http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-baskb...12aab.html

You are aware our PG is the player the commentators were ranting and raving about being the best player on the court... correct? Pierria Henry... he's pretty good dude... and he's a sophomore, not a freshman. I guess he has had a large number of TO's though.

I don't say that trying to be derogatory, but this is the second post I've seen you say that about our PG, just wanted to make sure you had the right guy.

But, your PG will be matched up against Miguel Paul, pre-season all C-USA player, who doesn't turn it over alot and does a good job of picking other's pockets.

Good job of picking other's pockets? You mean like 7th in the nation last year as a freshman or 15th in the nation so far this year as a sophomore? Oh no, that's right. That would be Pierria Henry, our PG.

Your team had something like 23 turnovers against a really bad Texas State team. Get a grip dude.
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RE: ECU @ Charlotte: Rivalry of The Eastern Messiah vs The Black Samurai
(11-24-2012 09:47 PM)itsbraille49 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:36 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:29 PM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 08:51 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 06:22 PM)HXC NINER Wrote:  ... Charlotte is tough defensively and should be more dominant in the interior. We are much bigger and more athletic this year. On the other hand, ECU has multiple 3 pt threats and shooters. It will be interesting to see if they can get hot this game with Charlotte's stifling defense, as a few players, namely Bowden, have struggled with consistency this year from the perimeter. Kemp and Paul seem to have made up for others's struggles though. My prediction is a 10+ point Charlotte victory with the home advantage. 76-63. I'm sure there are plenty who disagree, but hey, that's what rivalries are for, right?

My prediction is that Charlotte will turn the ball over about 20 times, in almost every game; because you don't have a point guard. I have watched each of Charlotte's games in this Alasakan shootout and the thing that just jumped out at me is that if you guys are pressed; then the opposing team is going to have a layup clinic; because Charlotte can't handle the ball. I like your coach, because he mixes things up; but until he gets you all a true point guard or coach up your reluctant freshman point guard, then you all are going to turn the ball over a lot.

I think that ECU is going to give you all a lot of problems at the guard position, because ECU's guard play is better. I think that Charlotte will have the advantage at one wing position (you have a guy at about "6'5" or "6'6" that can put the ball on the floor (Terrence Williams?)); because ECU's best wing defender that would be assigned to Williams is out for the year with a leg injury. Since Williams is not a great shooter, then that advantage for Charlotte may actually be negated.

However, you are way wrong about the interior size. ECU has 4 or 5 guys that regulary get minutes that are between "6'8" and "6'11" that are betwen 240 and 250. Three of them are not only rugged, but they are actually skilled passers and shooters. Here is one of them right here:
http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-baskb...12aab.html

You are aware our PG is the player the commentators were ranting and raving about being the best player on the court... correct? Pierria Henry... he's pretty good dude... and he's a sophomore, not a freshman. I guess he has had a large number of TO's though.

I don't say that trying to be derogatory, but this is the second post I've seen you say that about our PG, just wanted to make sure you had the right guy.

But, your PG will be matched up against Miguel Paul, pre-season all C-USA player, who doesn't turn it over alot and does a good job of picking other's pockets.


Pierra Henry finished 7th in steals per game last season... as a freshman.

Our big guys aren't in the rotation in Alaska because we are playing small teams and we are a defensive team. Our defense is more effective with comparable size, if we played our 6'10" center against their 6'7" PF's our C wouldn't be able to keep up. Your chubby white boy will get his best though.

We are ranked 14th in the NCAA in points in posession, ECU will score 70 at most against us.

Niners will get a double-digit win. The only question is who will replace Morrow's 0 points in the game this year.

Again another guy wearing green glasses. Your team barely beat a terrible Texas State team; and your guys had 23 turnovers. Your guys don't shoot very well and they don't handle the ball all that well. You all are adequate on defense and your coach makes decent adjustments; but let's not get carried away, because your power forward/center is your best outside shooter. So if your club doesn't get out into transition, then your whole offense is Henry trying to drive against an entire opposing team; or Braswell launching a contested 3; or Williams bricking a 15 footer; or someone getting in a tip-in. I am not joking that is all that I have seen you guys running in this tournament and I have watched both games.
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RE: ECU @ Charlotte: Rivalry of The Eastern Messiah vs The Black Samurai
(11-24-2012 11:29 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:29 PM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 08:51 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 06:22 PM)HXC NINER Wrote:  ... Charlotte is tough defensively and should be more dominant in the interior. We are much bigger and more athletic this year. On the other hand, ECU has multiple 3 pt threats and shooters. It will be interesting to see if they can get hot this game with Charlotte's stifling defense, as a few players, namely Bowden, have struggled with consistency this year from the perimeter. Kemp and Paul seem to have made up for others's struggles though. My prediction is a 10+ point Charlotte victory with the home advantage. 76-63. I'm sure there are plenty who disagree, but hey, that's what rivalries are for, right?

My prediction is that Charlotte will turn the ball over about 20 times, in almost every game; because you don't have a point guard. I have watched each of Charlotte's games in this Alasakan shootout and the thing that just jumped out at me is that if you guys are pressed; then the opposing team is going to have a layup clinic; because Charlotte can't handle the ball. I like your coach, because he mixes things up; but until he gets you all a true point guard or coach up your reluctant freshman point guard, then you all are going to turn the ball over a lot.

I think that ECU is going to give you all a lot of problems at the guard position, because ECU's guard play is better. I think that Charlotte will have the advantage at one wing position (you have a guy at about "6'5" or "6'6" that can put the ball on the floor (Terrence Williams?)); because ECU's best wing defender that would be assigned to Williams is out for the year with a leg injury. Since Williams is not a great shooter, then that advantage for Charlotte may actually be negated.

However, you are way wrong about the interior size. ECU has 4 or 5 guys that regulary get minutes that are between "6'8" and "6'11" that are betwen 240 and 250. Three of them are not only rugged, but they are actually skilled passers and shooters. Here is one of them right here:
http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-baskb...12aab.html

You are aware our PG is the player the commentators were ranting and raving about being the best player on the court... correct? Pierria Henry... he's pretty good dude... and he's a sophomore, not a freshman. I guess he has had a large number of TO's though.

I don't say that trying to be derogatory, but this is the second post I've seen you say that about our PG, just wanted to make sure you had the right guy.

The freshman that I was referring to was Ingram. He is not very good. BTW, I know who Henry is; he was number 15, but he is not a true point guard either. He looks like a 2 guard that has been switched to point, but he is not going to be able to stay in front of a true point guard. BTW, Texas State and Oral Roberts were as awful as some of those D2's that ECU plays; and Charlotte had trouble with them both. If I can stay up I will watch that game against Northeastern, because it might be a decent game.

The freshman averaging 7.6 ppg 2 apg 1.8 spg 71.4% from the free throw line and 46.7% 3pt shooting? Yeah he is garbage.
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(11-24-2012 11:43 PM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 11:29 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:29 PM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 08:51 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 06:22 PM)HXC NINER Wrote:  ... Charlotte is tough defensively and should be more dominant in the interior. We are much bigger and more athletic this year. On the other hand, ECU has multiple 3 pt threats and shooters. It will be interesting to see if they can get hot this game with Charlotte's stifling defense, as a few players, namely Bowden, have struggled with consistency this year from the perimeter. Kemp and Paul seem to have made up for others's struggles though. My prediction is a 10+ point Charlotte victory with the home advantage. 76-63. I'm sure there are plenty who disagree, but hey, that's what rivalries are for, right?

My prediction is that Charlotte will turn the ball over about 20 times, in almost every game; because you don't have a point guard. I have watched each of Charlotte's games in this Alasakan shootout and the thing that just jumped out at me is that if you guys are pressed; then the opposing team is going to have a layup clinic; because Charlotte can't handle the ball. I like your coach, because he mixes things up; but until he gets you all a true point guard or coach up your reluctant freshman point guard, then you all are going to turn the ball over a lot.

I think that ECU is going to give you all a lot of problems at the guard position, because ECU's guard play is better. I think that Charlotte will have the advantage at one wing position (you have a guy at about "6'5" or "6'6" that can put the ball on the floor (Terrence Williams?)); because ECU's best wing defender that would be assigned to Williams is out for the year with a leg injury. Since Williams is not a great shooter, then that advantage for Charlotte may actually be negated.

However, you are way wrong about the interior size. ECU has 4 or 5 guys that regulary get minutes that are between "6'8" and "6'11" that are betwen 240 and 250. Three of them are not only rugged, but they are actually skilled passers and shooters. Here is one of them right here:
http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-baskb...12aab.html

You are aware our PG is the player the commentators were ranting and raving about being the best player on the court... correct? Pierria Henry... he's pretty good dude... and he's a sophomore, not a freshman. I guess he has had a large number of TO's though.

I don't say that trying to be derogatory, but this is the second post I've seen you say that about our PG, just wanted to make sure you had the right guy.

The freshman that I was referring to was Ingram. He is not very good. BTW, I know who Henry is; he was number 15, but he is not a true point guard either. He looks like a 2 guard that has been switched to point, but he is not going to be able to stay in front of a true point guard. BTW, Texas State and Oral Roberts were as awful as some of those D2's that ECU plays; and Charlotte had trouble with them both. If I can stay up I will watch that game against Northeastern, because it might be a decent game.

The freshman averaging 7.6 ppg 2 apg 1.8 spg 71.4% from the free throw line and 46.7% 3pt shooting? Yeah he is garbage.

You said that he is garbage. Those were not my words. I said that he is not very good; and I say that, because the other night when Texas State turned up the pressure on your team, the guy was no where to be seen. Good point guards don't melt into floor when the pressue is on.
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(11-24-2012 11:49 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 11:43 PM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 11:29 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:29 PM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 08:51 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  My prediction is that Charlotte will turn the ball over about 20 times, in almost every game; because you don't have a point guard. I have watched each of Charlotte's games in this Alasakan shootout and the thing that just jumped out at me is that if you guys are pressed; then the opposing team is going to have a layup clinic; because Charlotte can't handle the ball. I like your coach, because he mixes things up; but until he gets you all a true point guard or coach up your reluctant freshman point guard, then you all are going to turn the ball over a lot.

I think that ECU is going to give you all a lot of problems at the guard position, because ECU's guard play is better. I think that Charlotte will have the advantage at one wing position (you have a guy at about "6'5" or "6'6" that can put the ball on the floor (Terrence Williams?)); because ECU's best wing defender that would be assigned to Williams is out for the year with a leg injury. Since Williams is not a great shooter, then that advantage for Charlotte may actually be negated.

However, you are way wrong about the interior size. ECU has 4 or 5 guys that regulary get minutes that are between "6'8" and "6'11" that are betwen 240 and 250. Three of them are not only rugged, but they are actually skilled passers and shooters. Here is one of them right here:
http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-baskb...12aab.html

You are aware our PG is the player the commentators were ranting and raving about being the best player on the court... correct? Pierria Henry... he's pretty good dude... and he's a sophomore, not a freshman. I guess he has had a large number of TO's though.

I don't say that trying to be derogatory, but this is the second post I've seen you say that about our PG, just wanted to make sure you had the right guy.

The freshman that I was referring to was Ingram. He is not very good. BTW, I know who Henry is; he was number 15, but he is not a true point guard either. He looks like a 2 guard that has been switched to point, but he is not going to be able to stay in front of a true point guard. BTW, Texas State and Oral Roberts were as awful as some of those D2's that ECU plays; and Charlotte had trouble with them both. If I can stay up I will watch that game against Northeastern, because it might be a decent game.

The freshman averaging 7.6 ppg 2 apg 1.8 spg 71.4% from the free throw line and 46.7% 3pt shooting? Yeah he is garbage.

You said that he is garbage. Those were not my words. I said that he is not very good; and I say that, because the other night when Texas State turned up the pressure on your team, the guy was no where to be seen. Good point guards don't melt into floor when the pressue is on.

Fair enough, but one stretch of game doesn't make a player. It was his 4th college game. There will be lapses with young guys. His stat line shows otherwise though. Many freshman contribute little to none their first year and as far as I'm concerned he has already surpassed many fans' expectations coming into this season.
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RE: ECU @ Charlotte: Rivalry of The Eastern Messiah vs The Black Samurai
(11-24-2012 11:49 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 11:43 PM)HXC NINER Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 11:29 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 09:29 PM)Whiteboard3 Wrote:  
(11-24-2012 08:51 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  My prediction is that Charlotte will turn the ball over about 20 times, in almost every game; because you don't have a point guard. I have watched each of Charlotte's games in this Alasakan shootout and the thing that just jumped out at me is that if you guys are pressed; then the opposing team is going to have a layup clinic; because Charlotte can't handle the ball. I like your coach, because he mixes things up; but until he gets you all a true point guard or coach up your reluctant freshman point guard, then you all are going to turn the ball over a lot.

I think that ECU is going to give you all a lot of problems at the guard position, because ECU's guard play is better. I think that Charlotte will have the advantage at one wing position (you have a guy at about "6'5" or "6'6" that can put the ball on the floor (Terrence Williams?)); because ECU's best wing defender that would be assigned to Williams is out for the year with a leg injury. Since Williams is not a great shooter, then that advantage for Charlotte may actually be negated.

However, you are way wrong about the interior size. ECU has 4 or 5 guys that regulary get minutes that are between "6'8" and "6'11" that are betwen 240 and 250. Three of them are not only rugged, but they are actually skilled passers and shooters. Here is one of them right here:
http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-baskb...12aab.html

You are aware our PG is the player the commentators were ranting and raving about being the best player on the court... correct? Pierria Henry... he's pretty good dude... and he's a sophomore, not a freshman. I guess he has had a large number of TO's though.

I don't say that trying to be derogatory, but this is the second post I've seen you say that about our PG, just wanted to make sure you had the right guy.

The freshman that I was referring to was Ingram. He is not very good. BTW, I know who Henry is; he was number 15, but he is not a true point guard either. He looks like a 2 guard that has been switched to point, but he is not going to be able to stay in front of a true point guard. BTW, Texas State and Oral Roberts were as awful as some of those D2's that ECU plays; and Charlotte had trouble with them both. If I can stay up I will watch that game against Northeastern, because it might be a decent game.

The freshman averaging 7.6 ppg 2 apg 1.8 spg 71.4% from the free throw line and 46.7% 3pt shooting? Yeah he is garbage.

You said that he is garbage. Those were not my words. I said that he is not very good; and I say that, because the other night when Texas State turned up the pressure on your team, the guy was no where to be seen. Good point guards don't melt into floor when the pressue is on.

Guilmette was trash against App. Is he not a good player too since he didn't perform at a high level every game as a freshman?
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I'm sorry, but neither one of us is even close to the awesomeness of Jim Kelly as Black Samurai.
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Great Alaskan Shootout Champions!

6-0, held our opponents to under 60 points every game!

My 2000th post!

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(11-24-2012 08:42 PM)HXC NINER Wrote:  Aren't you always the one telling us to stop living in the past?

Not when you are trying to ascertain true value this early into the season, and when a team like ours returns all but one player. Those players are still the players are still on the court and likely have improved individually from year to year which is the normal progression until they graduate. It's not like we are talking about guys from 2003 where you guys like to live. For instance Bowden shot 40%+ last year from three over 30+ games. You think that's not relevant to the conversation in November, 4 games in, or that he's going to shoot 12% this year or whatever he is at right now the entire year?


Quote:Additionally, those defensive numbers from last year are padded by DII wins. Of course you are going to put up stellar defense numbers against inferior competition who's guards average 5'9 and have 6-6 centers.

This is where you guys get way hung up on the D2's when they are only 3 or 4 out of 27 to 31 games.

Even if you take them out.

ECU would be ranked 165th last year in scoring defense vs the #76 Strength of Schedule

UNCC was 225th last year vs the #128 strenght of schedule.

We lost one player, who wasn't even a good defensive player from last years team. Two if you count Straughn who's injured. Still we had a significantly better defense last year vs a significantly better SOS if you want to play that game. I have a hard time believing you guys are suddenly an elite defensive team or even a better defensive team. I know you guys aren't bigger and don't have the kinds of shooters we have once guys like Bowden get going.
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(11-25-2012 01:57 AM)Niner National Wrote:  Guilmette was trash against App. Is he not a good player too since he didn't perform at a high level every game as a freshman?

Guilmette didn't play bad. App State had Athletic 6-6 wings in the post and played uptempo and did a good job denying him the ball offense with their quickness. The guy above made excuses about matchups as your 6-10 guys not playing but we both know they aren't going to play much anyway. It wasn't the greatest of match up for Guilmette, but he was still good enough he's on the court and played 20 minutes and had 4 points, 1 assist, 1 block, 1 steal, and 1 rebound. The rebounding numbers are the worst thing you could go after him on but a lot of that had to do with Sampson going berserk with 18 boards or he'd have probably had a few more. It certainly wasn't garbage and he contributed in other ways, even in a game that wasn't a good matchup for him.
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(11-25-2012 02:44 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Great Alaskan Shootout Champions!

6-0, held our opponents to under 60 points every game!

My 2000th post!

GO NINERS!

Congrats on your team being 6-0, because it is a legit start; however if you guys are are going to knock ECU's opponents; then at least admit that you guys have played some dogs too. According to Pomeroy when your team plays ECU next Saturday, it will be the highest rated opponent that your team has played to date (129).

The other teams that you have played:

ORU 149 (They are actually are no where near being the 149th best team in the Country);

Texas State 257 (I was litterally shocked to find that they are not in the 320 range, because they stink).

Northeastern 146. I can see this, especially once their stud point guard returns from injury.

Georgia Southern 258.
Lamar 250.
Charleston Southern 154.

UNCG (224) and Appy State (297) are nothing to write home about either, but Georgia State (161) on the road tomorrow should give ECU a good test. Charlotte at 96 will be a good game for ECU. Your guard (Henry) is good, but the rest of the the guys are careless with the ball. They made a bunch of more silly turnovers last night that would have been trouble for you all if Northeastern was at full strength.

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