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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
I agree with the original post
CUSA East
ODU
Charlotte
Marshall
UAB
Southern Miss
Western Kentucky
Middle Tennessee State
CUSA West
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
UTSA
North Texas
UTEP
Louisiana Tech
Tulsa
Rice to the nBE
This seems like the best case scenerio at this point. I know the Florida schools seem out of place in the west, but let's face it, they are too far for a bus trip for anyone in the east anyway and it is cheap to fly in and out of S. Florida so it is no extra money or time to put them in the west.
It would be awesome to bring back the home/home bball rivalries of UNCC/ODU/WKU/UAB. Those were fun.
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
(11-30-2012 11:35 AM)Eagle Eye Wrote: maybe you saw something that i failed to see - but i didn't read anything about him bringing down other schools.
It's called implied sarcasm and if it you missed in your friend's post then I'm sorry.
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
(11-30-2012 12:09 PM)EverRespect Wrote: I agree with the original post
CUSA East
ODU
Charlotte
Marshall
UAB
Southern Miss
Western Kentucky
Middle Tennessee State
CUSA West
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
UTSA
North Texas
UTEP
Louisiana Tech
Tulsa
Rice to the nBE
This seems like the best case scenerio at this point. I know the Florida schools seem out of place in the west, but let's face it, they are too far for a bus trip for anyone in the east anyway and it is cheap to fly in and out of S. Florida so it is no extra money or time to put them in the west.
It would be awesome to bring back the home/home bball rivalries of UNCC/ODU/WKU/UAB. Those were fun.
No way the west gets exclusive access to both Florida and Texas recruiting.
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11-30-2012 01:44 PM |
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EverRespect
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
Nope, the east will be free to recruit in Florida and Texas. We even already got a pretty good QB out of Texas ourselves!
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RE: UAB, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, WKU
(11-30-2012 11:41 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: (11-30-2012 11:11 AM)Vulcan1812 Wrote: (11-30-2012 10:20 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: (11-30-2012 09:24 AM)bladhmadh Wrote: (11-30-2012 08:54 AM)wh49er Wrote: We've found out what fanbase is replacing the ECU posters.
The guy has 14 posts over two years
All of them spouting the same idea
That's right...protect the basketball side as much as possible...UAB, ODU, Charlotte and WKU have a very long history together...I'm a UAB alum btw...Class of 1989...back when the Old Sun Belt played great hoops...
I'm a bigger basketball fan than football as well, but you have to be smart enough to realize that, in this climate, if you want to protect basketball, you have to promote football to the fullest. Long histories mean nothing. Oklahoma-Nebraska and Texas-Texas A&M had long histories as well. Didn't matter.
I'm smart enough not to bury my head in the sand...in the 80's UAB was a basketball FORCE...later came C-USA and it WAS a great hoops conference...where has football and our new league(s) gotten us??...our once outstanding basketball brand has been weakened for almost a decade now...UAB basketball deserves to be an A-10 like conference...people in Birmingham will come out to see Old Dominion, Charlotte and WKU again...scheduling conference mates such as Texas State Trade School and UT-Taco Bell is a bunch of horse **** and gunsmoke...
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
(11-30-2012 12:58 AM)Vulcan1812 Wrote: and WESTERN KENTUCKY need to CIRCLE THE WAGONS right now...there's a lot of history between most of the 7 programs mentioned...put together 10-12 teams (La Tech/ASU/etc) on the east side and STICK TOGETHER...nothing against any other program, but I just don't see the benefit to us playing the western teams
Let's see... Team X makes $$$ staying put, conference Y offers Team X $$$$$$ Team X does ? ... (Chase the $?) understand nothing matters except the $$$$$$$$$
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
(11-30-2012 08:00 PM)Vulcan1812 Wrote: (11-30-2012 11:41 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: (11-30-2012 11:11 AM)Vulcan1812 Wrote: (11-30-2012 10:20 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: (11-30-2012 09:24 AM)bladhmadh Wrote: The guy has 14 posts over two years
All of them spouting the same idea
That's right...protect the basketball side as much as possible...UAB, ODU, Charlotte and WKU have a very long history together...I'm a UAB alum btw...Class of 1989...back when the Old Sun Belt played great hoops...
I'm a bigger basketball fan than football as well, but you have to be smart enough to realize that, in this climate, if you want to protect basketball, you have to promote football to the fullest. Long histories mean nothing. Oklahoma-Nebraska and Texas-Texas A&M had long histories as well. Didn't matter.
I'm smart enough not to bury my head in the sand...in the 80's UAB was a basketball FORCE...later came C-USA and it WAS a great hoops conference...where has football and our new league(s) gotten us??...our once outstanding basketball brand has been weakened for almost a decade now...UAB basketball deserves to be an A-10 like conference...people in Birmingham will come out to see Old Dominion, Charlotte and WKU again...scheduling conference mates such as Texas State Trade School and UT-Taco Bell is a bunch of horse **** and gunsmoke...
Just stop posting
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11-30-2012 09:46 PM |
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EverRespect
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RE: UAB, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, WKU
(11-30-2012 08:00 PM)Vulcan1812 Wrote: (11-30-2012 11:41 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: (11-30-2012 11:11 AM)Vulcan1812 Wrote: (11-30-2012 10:20 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: (11-30-2012 09:24 AM)bladhmadh Wrote: The guy has 14 posts over two years
All of them spouting the same idea
That's right...protect the basketball side as much as possible...UAB, ODU, Charlotte and WKU have a very long history together...I'm a UAB alum btw...Class of 1989...back when the Old Sun Belt played great hoops...
I'm a bigger basketball fan than football as well, but you have to be smart enough to realize that, in this climate, if you want to protect basketball, you have to promote football to the fullest. Long histories mean nothing. Oklahoma-Nebraska and Texas-Texas A&M had long histories as well. Didn't matter.
I'm smart enough not to bury my head in the sand...in the 80's UAB was a basketball FORCE...later came C-USA and it WAS a great hoops conference...where has football and our new league(s) gotten us??...our once outstanding basketball brand has been weakened for almost a decade now...UAB basketball deserves to be an A-10 like conference...people in Birmingham will come out to see Old Dominion, Charlotte and WKU again...scheduling conference mates such as Texas State Trade School and UT-Taco Bell is a bunch of horse **** and gunsmoke...
Excellent post, agree 100%. I'm all for good football as well, but adding Texas State Trade School and UT-Taco bell just because they are located in a big city is what is ruining it. And don't give me the access to recruits nonsense either. The top Texas and Florida recruits are going to Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Georgia, and South Carolina. By the time you get to UT-Taco Bell, you are left with the 0-2 star recruits, which are no better than the 0-2 star recruits already available in any other state. Hell, we just landed a pretty darn good 3-star QB from Texas ourselves from a regional FCS conference and beat out some Big East schools doing so. We did this with out being in the same conference as Texas State Trade School.
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
(11-30-2012 12:09 PM)EverRespect Wrote: I agree with the original post
CUSA East
ODU
Charlotte
Marshall
UAB
Southern Miss
Western Kentucky
Middle Tennessee State
CUSA West
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
UTSA
North Texas
UTEP
Louisiana Tech
Tulsa
Rice to the nBE
This seems like the best case scenerio at this point. I know the Florida schools seem out of place in the west, but let's face it, they are too far for a bus trip for anyone in the east anyway and it is cheap to fly in and out of S. Florida so it is no extra money or time to put them in the west.
It would be awesome to bring back the home/home bball rivalries of UNCC/ODU/WKU/UAB. Those were fun.
NO...
East: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, MTSU, UAB, FAU, FIU
That way we play in Florida every year. You may have some solid Florida recruits, but playing there once a year should lead to many more. WV does not produce many DI recruits, we needs access to Florida. Marshall would not support your divisions.
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
(11-30-2012 09:46 PM)Blazer88 Wrote: (11-30-2012 08:00 PM)Vulcan1812 Wrote: (11-30-2012 11:41 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: (11-30-2012 11:11 AM)Vulcan1812 Wrote: (11-30-2012 10:20 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: All of them spouting the same idea
That's right...protect the basketball side as much as possible...UAB, ODU, Charlotte and WKU have a very long history together...I'm a UAB alum btw...Class of 1989...back when the Old Sun Belt played great hoops...
I'm a bigger basketball fan than football as well, but you have to be smart enough to realize that, in this climate, if you want to protect basketball, you have to promote football to the fullest. Long histories mean nothing. Oklahoma-Nebraska and Texas-Texas A&M had long histories as well. Didn't matter.
I'm smart enough not to bury my head in the sand...in the 80's UAB was a basketball FORCE...later came C-USA and it WAS a great hoops conference...where has football and our new league(s) gotten us??...our once outstanding basketball brand has been weakened for almost a decade now...UAB basketball deserves to be an A-10 like conference...people in Birmingham will come out to see Old Dominion, Charlotte and WKU again...scheduling conference mates such as Texas State Trade School and UT-Taco Bell is a bunch of horse **** and gunsmoke...
Just stop posting
What he said.
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12-01-2012 09:30 AM |
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
(12-01-2012 09:22 AM)77Herd11 Wrote: (11-30-2012 12:09 PM)EverRespect Wrote: I agree with the original post
CUSA East
ODU
Charlotte
Marshall
UAB
Southern Miss
Western Kentucky
Middle Tennessee State
CUSA West
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
UTSA
North Texas
UTEP
Louisiana Tech
Tulsa
Rice to the nBE
This seems like the best case scenerio at this point. I know the Florida schools seem out of place in the west, but let's face it, they are too far for a bus trip for anyone in the east anyway and it is cheap to fly in and out of S. Florida so it is no extra money or time to put them in the west.
It would be awesome to bring back the home/home bball rivalries of UNCC/ODU/WKU/UAB. Those were fun.
NO...
East: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, MTSU, UAB, FAU, FIU
That way we play in Florida every year. You may have some solid Florida recruits, but playing there once a year should lead to many more. WV does not produce many DI recruits, we needs access to Florida. Marshall would not support your divisions.
0-2 star recruits in Florida are no better than the 0-2 star recruits in WV, VA, and OH. The recruits in Florida you want to go after are going to Florida State, Miami, or the SEC. It would make sense for Ohio State or Michigan to want to play down there because they have a shot at those guys, but the theory doesn't flow down below the big 4 level, else the Sun Belt, ACC, and Big East would be strong.
(This post was last modified: 12-01-2012 09:33 AM by EverRespect.)
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
usm,memphis,and UAB were supposed to stick together
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12-01-2012 09:32 AM |
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
(12-01-2012 09:31 AM)EverRespect Wrote: (12-01-2012 09:22 AM)77Herd11 Wrote: (11-30-2012 12:09 PM)EverRespect Wrote: I agree with the original post
CUSA East
ODU
Charlotte
Marshall
UAB
Southern Miss
Western Kentucky
Middle Tennessee State
CUSA West
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
UTSA
North Texas
UTEP
Louisiana Tech
Tulsa
Rice to the nBE
This seems like the best case scenerio at this point. I know the Florida schools seem out of place in the west, but let's face it, they are too far for a bus trip for anyone in the east anyway and it is cheap to fly in and out of S. Florida so it is no extra money or time to put them in the west.
It would be awesome to bring back the home/home bball rivalries of UNCC/ODU/WKU/UAB. Those were fun.
NO...
East: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, MTSU, UAB, FAU, FIU
That way we play in Florida every year. You may have some solid Florida recruits, but playing there once a year should lead to many more. WV does not produce many DI recruits, we needs access to Florida. Marshall would not support your divisions.
0-2 star recruits in Florida are no better than the 0-2 star recruits in WV, VA, and OH. The recruits in Florida you want to go after are going to Florida State, Miami, or the SEC. It would make sense for Ohio State or Michigan to want to play down there because they have a shot at those guys, but the theory doesn't flow down below the big 4 level, else the Sun Belt, ACC, and Big East would be strong.
30 Players from Florida on our roster, including Rakeem Cato, Marshall will not support your divisions. PERIOD
In 2011 8 of our Florida recruits were 3 star. Fact check please.
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
(12-01-2012 09:30 AM)the_blazerman Wrote: (11-30-2012 09:46 PM)Blazer88 Wrote: (11-30-2012 08:00 PM)Vulcan1812 Wrote: (11-30-2012 11:41 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: (11-30-2012 11:11 AM)Vulcan1812 Wrote: That's right...protect the basketball side as much as possible...UAB, ODU, Charlotte and WKU have a very long history together...I'm a UAB alum btw...Class of 1989...back when the Old Sun Belt played great hoops...
I'm a bigger basketball fan than football as well, but you have to be smart enough to realize that, in this climate, if you want to protect basketball, you have to promote football to the fullest. Long histories mean nothing. Oklahoma-Nebraska and Texas-Texas A&M had long histories as well. Didn't matter.
I'm smart enough not to bury my head in the sand...in the 80's UAB was a basketball FORCE...later came C-USA and it WAS a great hoops conference...where has football and our new league(s) gotten us??...our once outstanding basketball brand has been weakened for almost a decade now...UAB basketball deserves to be an A-10 like conference...people in Birmingham will come out to see Old Dominion, Charlotte and WKU again...scheduling conference mates such as Texas State Trade School and UT-Taco Bell is a bunch of horse **** and gunsmoke...
Just stop posting
What he said.
What they said.
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
The Texas schools along with Tulsa probably wants to be in the MWC anyways so let them go. Tighten the geographical perimeter of the conference:
CUSA
ODU
Charlotte
Marshall
UAB
Southern Miss
Western Kentucky
Middle Tennessee State
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Louisiana Tech
You still have good TV markets, helps travel immensely and save programs money, and it is still a decent basketball conference. This is basically a steriod-laced Sun Belt but it is what it is.
(This post was last modified: 12-01-2012 11:48 AM by BamaScorpio69.)
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
(11-30-2012 12:58 AM)Vulcan1812 Wrote: and WESTERN KENTUCKY need to CIRCLE THE WAGONS right now...there's a lot of history between most of the 7 programs mentioned...put together 10-12 teams (La Tech/ASU/etc) on the east side and STICK TOGETHER...nothing against any other program, but I just don't see the benefit to us playing the western teams
I have no desire to play a team west of the Mississippi. However, I do enjoy playing great teams like Tulsa etc.
I wish all of the eastern teams could merge into a conf as well as the western teams.
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12-01-2012 11:35 AM |
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
Hell, yeah! Let's do this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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12-01-2012 11:37 AM |
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
(12-01-2012 09:32 AM)Hell_Blazer Wrote: usm,memphis,and UAB were supposed to stick together
Says who?
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12-01-2012 11:49 AM |
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
(12-01-2012 09:46 AM)77Herd11 Wrote: (12-01-2012 09:31 AM)EverRespect Wrote: (12-01-2012 09:22 AM)77Herd11 Wrote: (11-30-2012 12:09 PM)EverRespect Wrote: I agree with the original post
CUSA East
ODU
Charlotte
Marshall
UAB
Southern Miss
Western Kentucky
Middle Tennessee State
CUSA West
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
UTSA
North Texas
UTEP
Louisiana Tech
Tulsa
Rice to the nBE
This seems like the best case scenerio at this point. I know the Florida schools seem out of place in the west, but let's face it, they are too far for a bus trip for anyone in the east anyway and it is cheap to fly in and out of S. Florida so it is no extra money or time to put them in the west.
It would be awesome to bring back the home/home bball rivalries of UNCC/ODU/WKU/UAB. Those were fun.
NO...
East: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, MTSU, UAB, FAU, FIU
That way we play in Florida every year. You may have some solid Florida recruits, but playing there once a year should lead to many more. WV does not produce many DI recruits, we needs access to Florida. Marshall would not support your divisions.
0-2 star recruits in Florida are no better than the 0-2 star recruits in WV, VA, and OH. The recruits in Florida you want to go after are going to Florida State, Miami, or the SEC. It would make sense for Ohio State or Michigan to want to play down there because they have a shot at those guys, but the theory doesn't flow down below the big 4 level, else the Sun Belt, ACC, and Big East would be strong.
30 Players from Florida on our roster, including Rakeem Cato, Marshall will not support your divisions. PERIOD
In 2011 8 of our Florida recruits were 3 star. Fact check please.
Good for you, but not for your argument. If you are already getting your Florida recruits, what exactly are you trying to accomplish by watering down the conference with insisting on playing these schools? Not understanding.
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RE: UAB, USM, Charlotte, ODU, Middle Tenn, Marshall...
(12-01-2012 03:20 PM)EverRespect Wrote: Good for you, but not for your argument. If you are already getting your Florida recruits, what exactly are you trying to accomplish by watering down the conference with insisting on playing these schools? Not understanding.
Marshall has 33 players on the roster from Florida, some 4 star players. To be able to go into Miami Central, South Miami, Glades Central, University and Lakeland and tell the youg men that they will be able to help Marshall University win, get a good education and yes you will be able to play infront of family at least once a year is huge. And thats the reason Marshall would not want to be in the divisions you set up.
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