(12-11-2012 09:11 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(12-11-2012 08:56 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  Its like a message board riot over there. Everyone is attacking everyone. That board has degraded worse than the league itself.

That board may actually be similar to what goes on in Big East meetings. How the hell does Tulane get voted in when, apparently, none of the voting members wanted them?

I still have no clue how Tulane got in. UConn, UC and UofL all abstained (and USF might have) and now apparently the basketball schools didn't want them either. Seriously, who the eff voted them in??

(12-11-2012 02:44 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  That thread is great. And of course ya got BigLEastHomer in the middle continually instigating.

That dude is out there.

Plus he may well have the dumbest sig pic ever. Anybody besides him think that SMU, Tulane, Depaul, and Seton Hall are "bling bling "?

It appears we can all agree on something. That guy is awful. Thank God he doesn't post here.

(12-11-2012 09:11 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(12-11-2012 08:56 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  Its like a message board riot over there. Everyone is attacking everyone. That board has degraded worse than the league itself.

That board may actually be similar to what goes on in Big East meetings. How the hell does Tulane get voted in when, apparently, none of the voting members wanted them?

I think that they might have just voted themselves in and started showing up to the meetings lol

I can see it now: "If we keep just showing up, everyone will just assume that we got voted in and they forgot about it."

(12-11-2012 12:49 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-11-2012 09:11 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(12-11-2012 08:56 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  Its like a message board riot over there. Everyone is attacking everyone. That board has degraded worse than the league itself.

That board may actually be similar to what goes on in Big East meetings. How the hell does Tulane get voted in when, apparently, none of the voting members wanted them?

I think that they might have just voted themselves in and started showing up to the meetings lol

I can see it now: "If we keep just showing up, everyone will just assume that we got voted in and they forgot about it."

The George Costanza method.

Maybe what happened was the BE presidents all took an exploratory trip to Nawlins as a way to party on the conference's dime. A few too many Hurricanes and they wake up the next morning saying,"We voted for what?"

(12-11-2012 12:49 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-11-2012 09:11 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(12-11-2012 08:56 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  Its like a message board riot over there. Everyone is attacking everyone. That board has degraded worse than the league itself.

That board may actually be similar to what goes on in Big East meetings. How the hell does Tulane get voted in when, apparently, none of the voting members wanted them?

I think that they might have just voted themselves in and started showing up to the meetings lol

I can see it now: "If we keep just showing up, everyone will just assume that we got voted in and they forgot about it."

Just wait till they take away Tulane's "Red Swingline Stapler"...Providence will burn.

Cincy just announced the fund raising drive is on for 60 to 70 million in expansion and updating of Nippert. Uc is just finishing their billion dollar University wide campaign this month. They are adding 1400 club seats 28 luxury boxes with more details on other expansion and updates due out in the next week or two. What a week to show the ACC we are agressive! Hire a National Coach of the year in Tommy T and now expand the stadium!

(12-12-2012 04:51 PM)Bearcat T Wrote:  Cincy just announced the fund raising drive is on for 60 to 70 million in expansion and updating of Nippert. Uc is just finishing their billion dollar University wide campaign this month. They are adding 1400 club seats 28 luxury boxes with more details on other expansion and updates due out in the next week or two. What a week to show the ACC we are agressive! Hire a National Coach of the year in Tommy T and now expand the stadium!

I know the Card Fans are pulling for You ! as I'm sure others on here are .

(12-11-2012 02:50 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(12-11-2012 12:49 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-11-2012 09:11 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(12-11-2012 08:56 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  Its like a message board riot over there. Everyone is attacking everyone. That board has degraded worse than the league itself.

That board may actually be similar to what goes on in Big East meetings. How the hell does Tulane get voted in when, apparently, none of the voting members wanted them?

I think that they might have just voted themselves in and started showing up to the meetings lol

I can see it now: "If we keep just showing up, everyone will just assume that we got voted in and they forgot about it."

Just wait till they take away Tulane's "Red Swingline Stapler"...Providence will burn.

It's on the verge of burning as it. Go to the BE board if you don't believe me.

(12-12-2012 04:51 PM)Bearcat T Wrote:  Cincy just announced the fund raising drive is on for 60 to 70 million in expansion and updating of Nippert. Uc is just finishing their billion dollar University wide campaign this month. They are adding 1400 club seats 28 luxury boxes with more details on other expansion and updates due out in the next week or two. What a week to show the ACC we are agressive! Hire a National Coach of the year in Tommy T and now expand the stadium!

Honestly, it's a little late. But not too late for the next round of expansion. Had y'all been averaging 45K now, it would probably have been a toss up between Cincy and Louisville. I'll be rooting for y'all though. If not the ACC, you should be a shoe in for the Big 12.

(12-12-2012 04:51 PM)Bearcat T Wrote:  Cincy just announced the fund raising drive is on for 60 to 70 million in expansion and updating of Nippert. Uc is just finishing their billion dollar University wide campaign this month. They are adding 1400 club seats 28 luxury boxes with more details on other expansion and updates due out in the next week or two. What a week to show the ACC we are agressive! Hire a National Coach of the year in Tommy T and now expand the stadium!

I didn't think they were finished paying off the athletic village project. I know Cincy doesn't have a choice really, they have to address the concerns that have kept them out of the ACC/B12 now if they have any hope to get in down the road, but yeah, it may be too late. Hopefully you and UConn land on your feet somewhere.

(11-30-2012 06:30 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  I still don't believe any of it.

You should add Arkansas St and Georgia St to fill in the footprint.

WKU should be trying to get in CUSA.

Anything is possible with realignment as we have seen, but generally speaking, to go from 12 teams to 14 teams, or especially from 14 ot 16, you need to be adding an "anchor" school. One of those that were called a "king" or at least a "baron" from that SI article a few years back:

Sports Illustrated Wrote:Kings
Alabama, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Michigan, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Penn State, Tennessee*, Texas and USC.

* Tennessee is the lone school in the group that caused any hesitation. The Vols would have been a no-brainer 10 years ago, but they have fallen off the map a bit lately. In the end, I figured those 100 fans in Montana still know "Rocky Top," the checkered end zones and that Peyton Manning went there.

Barons
Auburn, Clemson, Colorado, Georgia, LSU*, Texas A&M, UCLA, Virginia Tech, Washington and Wisconsin.

* While LSU is clearly a premier program right now, its big-picture tradition does not match those of the 13 kings. However, if the Tigers were to add another national title here in the next couple of years, they may well graduate to that group.

** In normal times, Syracuse would qualify as one of the barons, but they're just so darn bad and so irrelevant right now.
***There is one school intentionally missing from the list, and that's because I have no idea where to put it: Louisville. History-wise, the Cardinals are peasants, but the program has completely reinvented itself over the past decade and now gets mentioned with the kings and barons. For now, we'll just say: TBD.

Remember this lis is from August of 2007. Obviously a lot has changed (LSU, Oregon, Boise, Tennessee, Louisville, Miami, and Penn State have all seen their statuses change for better or worse. I would say a general rule of thumb is if you are the Big Ten, Pac 12. or ACC, you don't want to expand any more without getting at least one team from this list. Based on who we all think may consider a move, these conferences should not move unless they get one of the following:

Big Ten - Notre Dame, Texas, Florida St, Virginia Tech I left off Oklahoma because they already rejected them without Texas, and they are already on the list.
ACC - Notre Dame, Texas
Pac 12 - Texas, Oklahoma (if going to 16, this probably needs to be an "AND")
SEC - They have enough, They can add anyone and be okay
Big XII - Florida State, Clemson (if going to 16, this need to be an "AND"), Notre Dame.

So while we already know to never say never, it appears to me that unless one of the big fish move, meaning one of Florida State, Notre Dame, Clemson, Virginia Tech, Texas, or Oklahoma have to move for anyone esle to expand.

(12-13-2012 03:29 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  Anything is possible with realignment as we have seen, but generally speaking, to go from 12 teams to 14 teams, or especially from 14 ot 16, you need to be adding an "anchor" school. One of those that were called a "king" or at least a "baron" from that SI article a few years back:

Sports Illustrated Wrote:Kings
Alabama, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Michigan, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Penn State, Tennessee*, Texas and USC.

* Tennessee is the lone school in the group that caused any hesitation. The Vols would have been a no-brainer 10 years ago, but they have fallen off the map a bit lately. In the end, I figured those 100 fans in Montana still know "Rocky Top," the checkered end zones and that Peyton Manning went there.

Barons
Auburn, Clemson, Colorado, Georgia, LSU*, Texas A&M, UCLA, Virginia Tech, Washington and Wisconsin.

* While LSU is clearly a premier program right now, its big-picture tradition does not match those of the 13 kings. However, if the Tigers were to add another national title here in the next couple of years, they may well graduate to that group.

** In normal times, Syracuse would qualify as one of the barons, but they're just so darn bad and so irrelevant right now.
***There is one school intentionally missing from the list, and that's because I have no idea where to put it: Louisville. History-wise, the Cardinals are peasants, but the program has completely reinvented itself over the past decade and now gets mentioned with the kings and barons. For now, we'll just say: TBD.

Remember this lis is from August of 2007. Obviously a lot has changed (LSU, Oregon, Boise, Tennessee, Louisville, Miami, and Penn State have all seen their statuses change for better or worse. I would say a general rule of thumb is if you are the Big Ten, Pac 12. or ACC, you don't want to expand any more without getting at least one team from this list. Based on who we all think may consider a move, these conferences should not move unless they get one of the following:

Big Ten - Notre Dame, Texas, Florida St, Virginia Tech I left off Oklahoma because they already rejected them without Texas, and they are already on the list.
ACC - Notre Dame, Texas
Pac 12 - Texas, Oklahoma (if going to 16, this probably needs to be an "AND")
SEC - They have enough, They can add anyone and be okay
Big XII - Florida State, Clemson (if going to 16, this need to be an "AND"), Notre Dame.

So while we already know to never say never, it appears to me that unless one of the big fish move, meaning one of Florida State, Notre Dame, Clemson, Virginia Tech, Texas, or Oklahoma have to move for anyone esle to expand.

Interesting post, interesting theory, but it certainly isn't supported by the fact that the three most recent schools (Louisville, Rutgers and Maryland) added to the Big10 and the ACC are no where to be found on that list. And for that matter, it's very likely none of those three would even be found on whatever "level" comes below Baron.