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RE: Four On Campus Stadium related questions?
(11-30-2012 08:40 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  
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(11-29-2012 09:33 PM)KevMo4UAB Wrote:  Consequently we play in an off-campus football stadium that should be condemned...

That's a bit of an exaggeration.

Not much of one. I remember why the upper deck was torn down. Nets slung under it to catch the falling concrete were disconcerting to look up at.

That upper deck was the "last hoo-rah" of the old City Commission when constructed. It was withheld from use its first year because of doubts about its strength (there was an aerial photo of the empty upper deck above the crowded stands in the Sunday NEWS). When fans sat under it, many sitting in upper seats could not see either scoreboard so 2 small ones had to be put in underneath it and one of these is still fastened to the top of the east stands. In its last year, it was again closed to fans giving it "bookend vacancies" for its years of existence.

The main thing about Legion Field is that it remains the ONLY stadium in the metroarea with the needed capacity for several football games not connected with UAB and selected other events.
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RE: Four On Campus Stadium related questions?
(12-01-2012 03:43 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(11-30-2012 08:40 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  
(11-30-2012 02:20 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(11-29-2012 09:33 PM)KevMo4UAB Wrote:  Consequently we play in an off-campus football stadium that should be condemned...

That's a bit of an exaggeration.

Not much of one. I remember why the upper deck was torn down. Nets slung under it to catch the falling concrete were disconcerting to look up at.

That upper deck was the "last hoo-rah" of the old City Commission when constructed. It was withheld from use its first year because of doubts about its strength (there was an aerial photo of the empty upper deck above the crowded stands in the Sunday NEWS). When fans sat under it, many sitting in upper seats could not see either scoreboard so 2 small ones had to be put in underneath it and one of these is still fastened to the top of the east stands. In its last year, it was again closed to fans giving it "bookend vacancies" for its years of existence.

The main thing about Legion Field is that it remains the ONLY stadium in the metroarea with the needed capacity for several football games not connected with UAB and selected other events.

And to this day since, has it ever seen a packed house? Before anyone mentions "The Classic", the average attendance for that game is around 55K, isn't it? Damn good, yes, but is that the only time that it can be counted on to have an impressive crowd on hand anymore? That's all Birmingham can hang its' hat on in relation to that place? C'mon, man!!!

Honest question to anyone here, what do you think the % is of attendees of that game that are actually paying attention to the game on the field? The players? The coaches? The rammifications if any, of conference standings and postseason implications?

Is there any kind of extended or exclusive coverage of the GAME by the local media when it comes to town, any attention given to the "cartel" when they played their title game here for the short period of time it was here? I doubt it very much. Believe it or not, the MCC is just a "sideshow" to the local media, & I'm not saying it's right, but they have practically no interest in it whatsoever, and are more than willing to let it exist in this town so long as it poses no threat to you-know-who and you-know-where.

Can't wait to hear how much $$$$ Bell is going to sink into that place in the future (see recently passed bond issue) for the sake of preserving one game. Incredible.
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RE: Four On Campus Stadium related questions?
Hey, that weekend is Bell's $100,00 house party and private concert.
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RE: Four On Campus Stadium related questions?
(12-02-2012 04:56 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  Hey, that weekend is Bell's $100,00 house party and private concert.

03-lmfao Yet in the process, a really good football game is lost in the "fog."

Would still love to see them go home and home after they signed their right to thrive away for 15 more years. Wonder if that relic will still be standing by then?
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RE: Four On Campus Stadium related questions?
I'm not a structural engineer, but I can see that without Legion Field, we would have none of the football traffic the city now gets each year from the MCC, any SWAC games and the BBVA Bowl. The city is literally hanging onto those games by a thread that could be cut at any time. We had in the MPF a chance to build a "goose that might lay golden eggs" for many years, but it is getting more and more unlikely to ever be built now (and LF is no substitute).
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RE: Four On Campus Stadium related questions?
(12-02-2012 06:54 PM)Matrix Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 04:56 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  Hey, that weekend is Bell's $100,00 house party and private concert.

03-lmfao Yet in the process, a really good football game is lost in the "fog."

Would still love to see them go home and home after they signed their right to thrive away for 15 more years. Wonder if that relic will still be standing by then?

Ask the SWAC Commissioner or either school's AD and they'll tell you that neither school could host the crowd and festivities the Classic has. Just not possible.

If all the people that went to the Classic actually went inside to the football game...Legion Field would be full.
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RE: Four On Campus Stadium related questions?
(12-02-2012 04:48 PM)Matrix Wrote:  
(12-01-2012 03:43 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(11-30-2012 08:40 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  
(11-30-2012 02:20 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(11-29-2012 09:33 PM)KevMo4UAB Wrote:  Consequently we play in an off-campus football stadium that should be condemned...

That's a bit of an exaggeration.

Not much of one. I remember why the upper deck was torn down. Nets slung under it to catch the falling concrete were disconcerting to look up at.

That upper deck was the "last hoo-rah" of the old City Commission when constructed. It was withheld from use its first year because of doubts about its strength (there was an aerial photo of the empty upper deck above the crowded stands in the Sunday NEWS). When fans sat under it, many sitting in upper seats could not see either scoreboard so 2 small ones had to be put in underneath it and one of these is still fastened to the top of the east stands. In its last year, it was again closed to fans giving it "bookend vacancies" for its years of existence.

The main thing about Legion Field is that it remains the ONLY stadium in the metroarea with the needed capacity for several football games not connected with UAB and selected other events.

And to this day since, has it ever seen a packed house? Before anyone mentions "The Classic", the average attendance for that game is around 55K, isn't it? Damn good, yes, but is that the only time that it can be counted on to have an impressive crowd on hand anymore? That's all Birmingham can hang its' hat on in relation to that place? C'mon, man!!!

Honest question to anyone here, what do you think the % is of attendees of that game that are actually paying attention to the game on the field? The players? The coaches? The rammifications if any, of conference standings and postseason implications?

Is there any kind of extended or exclusive coverage of the GAME by the local media when it comes to town, any attention given to the "cartel" when they played their title game here for the short period of time it was here? I doubt it very much. Believe it or not, the MCC is just a "sideshow" to the local media, & I'm not saying it's right, but they have practically no interest in it whatsoever, and are more than willing to let it exist in this town so long as it poses no threat to you-know-who and you-know-where.

Can't wait to hear how much $$$$ Bell is going to sink into that place in the future (see recently passed bond issue) for the sake of preserving one game. Incredible.

I had a conversation this past weekend with my ex, who is a Gumpfan, a UAB grad and currently works for a UAB-affiliated business.

The subject came up as to whether any (American) football games are still played at RFK Stadium, to which I replied, "no, only soccer and RFK is in nearly as bad shape as Legion Field anyway."

Her response was, "well, the city still maintains Legion because they still have a game there every year, that Alabama State game."

I replied, "uhh, UAB still plays all their home games there."

Silence.
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RE: Four On Campus Stadium related questions?
(12-02-2012 11:26 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  I'm not a structural engineer, but I can see that without Legion Field, we would have none of the football traffic the city now gets each year from the MCC, any SWAC games and the BBVA Bowl. The city is literally hanging onto those games by a thread that could be cut at any time. We had in the MPF a chance to build a "goose that might lay golden eggs" for many years, but it is getting more and more unlikely to ever be built now (and LF is no substitute).

Legion Field is an embarassing option/alternative to have, to say the least. You're so right about the abovementioned games and their very shaky co-existence in this area, you saw how quick Papa John's broke camp, as well as the Cartel and the AHSAA, just a matter of time before UAB & the MCC are the only tenants left, and the Blazers are "on the clock" with that lease near expiration. There is NO viability in that place, none! And I am so tired of hearing about the dome/MPF now, I don't see it getting built in this century. How long has that issue been hovered over this area? Has it been 20 years now? More?
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From a UAB standpoint, there are only two significant things wrong with Legion Field. It is too big, and it is not on campus.
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(12-04-2012 12:08 PM)the Dragon Wrote:  From a UAB standpoint, there are only two significant things wrong with Legion Field. It is too big, and it is not on campus.

The other significant issue is that UAB pays rent and retains no parking fees and the City of Birmingham handles all catering and vendor relationships/contracts.
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(12-04-2012 12:53 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(12-04-2012 12:08 PM)the Dragon Wrote:  From a UAB standpoint, there are only two significant things wrong with Legion Field. It is too big, and it is not on campus.

The other significant issue is that UAB pays rent and retains no parking fees and the City of Birmingham handles all catering and vendor relationships/contracts.

Demidude,, I think your points are as important, if not moreso, than the fact it is big and not on campus: Parking woes, crappy vending, and overall game experience dictated by the on site personell we have to deal with and be served by is what makes it less desirable for me.
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(12-04-2012 12:53 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(12-04-2012 12:08 PM)the Dragon Wrote:  From a UAB standpoint, there are only two significant things wrong with Legion Field. It is too big, and it is not on campus.

The other significant issue is that UAB pays rent and retains no parking fees and the City of Birmingham handles all catering and vendor relationships/contracts.

Which is completely resolved if it is on campus. :)
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(12-04-2012 09:22 AM)Matrix Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 11:26 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  I'm not a structural engineer, but I can see that without Legion Field, we would have none of the football traffic the city now gets each year from the MCC, any SWAC games and the BBVA Bowl. The city is literally hanging onto those games by a thread that could be cut at any time. We had in the MPF a chance to build a "goose that might lay golden eggs" for many years, but it is getting more and more unlikely to ever be built now (and LF is no substitute).

Legion Field is an embarassing option/alternative to have, to say the least. You're so right about the abovementioned games and their very shaky co-existence in this area, you saw how quick Papa John's broke camp, as well as the Cartel and the AHSAA, just a matter of time before UAB & the MCC are the only tenants left, and the Blazers are "on the clock" with that lease near expiration. There is NO viability in that place, none! And I am so tired of hearing about the dome/MPF now, I don't see it getting built in this century. How long has that issue been hovered over this area? Has it been 20 years now? More?

The vote was in 1998.

The MPF ("dome") can be built when and if the state can ever put aside its political fealty to the suburbs and co-operate in its construction by working directly with the city. So far the state leadership has insisted on giving the (Republican dominated) suburbs a veto over the project in the (Democratic dominated) city.

Papa John's Pizza decided to put all its "golden eggs" into the NFL basket and withdrew sponsorship from our bowl game. If BBVA doesn't see a satisfactory return on its investment, it may leave as well. All the city government can do is try to keep LF as "decent a venue" as they can since they are blocked (politically and financially) from building anything to replace it. BTW, That is the same duality of problems that block UAB from building its OCS.
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(12-04-2012 02:39 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(12-04-2012 09:22 AM)Matrix Wrote:  
(12-02-2012 11:26 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  I'm not a structural engineer, but I can see that without Legion Field, we would have none of the football traffic the city now gets each year from the MCC, any SWAC games and the BBVA Bowl. The city is literally hanging onto those games by a thread that could be cut at any time. We had in the MPF a chance to build a "goose that might lay golden eggs" for many years, but it is getting more and more unlikely to ever be built now (and LF is no substitute).

Legion Field is an embarassing option/alternative to have, to say the least. You're so right about the abovementioned games and their very shaky co-existence in this area, you saw how quick Papa John's broke camp, as well as the Cartel and the AHSAA, just a matter of time before UAB & the MCC are the only tenants left, and the Blazers are "on the clock" with that lease near expiration. There is NO viability in that place, none! And I am so tired of hearing about the dome/MPF now, I don't see it getting built in this century. How long has that issue been hovered over this area? Has it been 20 years now? More?

The vote was in 1998. Ah, yes, the almighty "MAPS" referendum. This city and region's most glaring indication of adversarialism and how a house divided against itself can't stand.

The MPF ("dome") can be built when and if the state can ever put aside its political fealty to the suburbs and co-operate in its construction by working directly with the city. So far the state leadership has insisted on giving the (Republican dominated) suburbs a veto over the project in the (Democratic dominated) city. [/b]Trans: Holdeth not thy breath.[b]

Papa John's Pizza decided to put all its "golden eggs" into the NFL basket and withdrew sponsorship from our bowl game. If BBVA doesn't see a satisfactory return on its investment, it may leave as well. All the city government can do is try to keep LF as "decent a venue" as they can since they are blocked (politically and financially) from building anything to replace it. BTW, That is the same duality of problems that block UAB from building its OCS. Can't blame the "Pizza Man" there, a chance to make more moolah in dealing with the NFL. By the way, isn't Papa John's HQ in Louisville? Wonder if the next time the NFL seeks expansion, that "The Ville" will be mentioned as a candidate? I'd say they had a pretty good shot if that's the case.
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RE: Four On Campus Stadium related questions?
I can't believe this thread is still going.
I feel that since its on the 2nd page, we need another stadium picture
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I wouldn't say Papa put all his money in the NFL:

http://www.gocards.com/facilities/lou-fa...adium.html
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(12-04-2012 03:14 PM)LairDweller Wrote:  I can't believe this thread is still going.
I feel that since its on the 2nd page, we need another stadium picture

I second the motion!
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(12-04-2012 03:16 PM)backyardblazer Wrote:  I wouldn't say Papa put all his money in the NFL:

http://www.gocards.com/facilities/lou-fa...adium.html

Damn!
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Inspiration

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(12-04-2012 12:53 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  
(12-04-2012 12:08 PM)the Dragon Wrote:  From a UAB standpoint, there are only two significant things wrong with Legion Field. It is too big, and it is not on campus.

The other significant issue is that UAB pays rent and retains no parking fees and the City of Birmingham handles all catering and vendor relationships/contracts.
Not really The city of Birmingham still buys over $ 200,000 worth of tickets originally this was to offset a long time agreement to rent Legion field. Now our rent has been lowered to greater of 10 % of gate or $ 10,000 a game. So we gain about 150,000 a year from our rental agreement.
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