Lots of things happened today, things that dont include the losses by Oregon and Kansas State.

For the SBC Championship the picture is clearer:

Eliminated: USA, FAU, FIU, UNT, Troy, WKU
Still in the Hunt: ULM, ULL
Drivers Seat: MTSU, ASU

1. If MTSU beats Troy at home next Saturday, then the MTSU/ASU game in Jonesboro on Dec 1st will be the defacto SBC Championship Game. Winner gets the trophy.

2. There will only be a share of the Title IF Troy beats MTSU, AND MTSU beats ASU the following week. That would create a 4 team tie between MTSU, ASU, ULM, and ULL. Per SBC rules, there is no tiebreaker, and all 4 teams are declared champions (Thats a lot of championship rings.)

Bowl Picture:

New Orleans Bowl is now a virtual lock for the Cajuns, though it wouldd be much easier for the Bowl if ULL could share the league title, which would satisfy part of the Bowl's contract. The only question is whether or not they would take a shot at an ASU or MTSU as champ, or stay with the known ULL attendance.

Go Daddy Bowl: Will either go to MTSU or ASU in almost every scenario. The understanding I have right now is that ASU would get a bid over the Blue Raiders regardless the final game on Dec 1st because of our attendance last year.

Other Bowls:

SEC had a terrible day today, and could now very likely leave a gazillion bowls open. They have 8 eligible, with 2 BCS. If Ole Miss and Missouri both lose next week (home vs Miss State, @ A&M respectively), Liberty, Birmingham, and Independence are all open for SBC teams.

If the SEC does not fill 3 bowls, my understanding is that the Liberty and Music City Bowls get to fight over who comes open. This creates an interesting scenario, as the Liberty is said to covet ASU should a spot come open, and I am curious to see whether or not the Music City Bowl will hope for Vandy to fill the game, or take a shot with an at large and go after MTSU. My guess is that Liberty comes open, and picks ASU to play against the CUSA Champion.

That leaves Birmingham, Independence, and Go Daddy open. There are questions about whether or not the Independence will go for a Tech/ULM matchup. Tech screwed the pooch today in the final ever WAC title game, and now is not guaranteed a WAC bowl bid.

That leaves Birmingham and Go Daddy to fight over WKU and MTSU, who both chould clearly get bids. In fact, if Troy beats MTSU next weekend, the Trojans will be a certain bowl bid as well and could steal one of the Bama bowls because of the larger fan base.

At least thats what I can figure for now.

Of course I should always add that if Ole Miss or Missouri wins this weekend, the Liberty is filled, and ASU is sent back to Mobile.

I think the NO Bowl takes Ark St to fulfill their championship commitment, leaving Mobile for ULL. I think the Blue Raiders are then eating Little Ceasers in Detroit, WKU is banking on Bham, and ULM is celebrating their sub-.500 Independence in Shreveport.

(11-18-2012 11:22 AM)WarhawkReport Wrote:  I think the NO Bowl takes Ark St to fulfill their championship commitment, leaving Mobile for ULL. I think the Blue Raiders are then eating Little Ceasers in Detroit, WKU is banking on Bham, and ULM is celebrating their sub-.500 Independence in Shreveport.

Not a chance in hell Bham takes Western while sending MT to Detroit. MT has done its time in Detroit.

(11-18-2012 11:45 AM)MTowho Wrote:  Not a chance in hell Bham takes Western while sending MT to Detroit. MT has done its time in Detroit.

It would've definitely been interesting to see what happened in this scenario if both MT and WKU kept winning, but since WKU has lost their last three, I don't think Birmingham would pick them over MT.

(11-18-2012 11:22 AM)WarhawkReport Wrote:  I think the NO Bowl takes Ark St to fulfill their championship commitment, leaving Mobile for ULL. I think the Blue Raiders are then eating Little Ceasers in Detroit, WKU is banking on Bham, and ULM is celebrating their sub-.500 Independence in Shreveport.

Highly doubt ulm is in Shreveport

(11-18-2012 12:03 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 11:22 AM)WarhawkReport Wrote:  I think the NO Bowl takes Ark St to fulfill their championship commitment, leaving Mobile for ULL. I think the Blue Raiders are then eating Little Ceasers in Detroit, WKU is banking on Bham, and ULM is celebrating their sub-.500 Independence in Shreveport.

Highly doubt ulm is in Shreveport

Gotta agree with this. With LA Tech now completely out of the BC$ picture, the I-Bowl will snatch up LA Tech to guarantee more ticket sales.

(11-18-2012 11:22 AM)WarhawkReport Wrote:  I think the NO Bowl takes Ark St to fulfill their championship commitment, leaving Mobile for ULL. I think the Blue Raiders are then eating Little Ceasers in Detroit, WKU is banking on Bham, and ULM is celebrating their sub-.500 Independence in Shreveport.

Memo, the NO Bowl doesn't have to take the SBC Champion again this year if they are placed in a bowl first.

(11-18-2012 12:18 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 11:22 AM)WarhawkReport Wrote:  I think the NO Bowl takes Ark St to fulfill their championship commitment, leaving Mobile for ULL. I think the Blue Raiders are then eating Little Ceasers in Detroit, WKU is banking on Bham, and ULM is celebrating their sub-.500 Independence in Shreveport.

Memo, the NO Bowl doesn't have to take the SBC Champion again this year if they are placed in a bowl first.

it's 2 out of 4 years they have to have the conference champion

(11-18-2012 12:07 PM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 12:03 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 11:22 AM)WarhawkReport Wrote:  I think the NO Bowl takes Ark St to fulfill their championship commitment, leaving Mobile for ULL. I think the Blue Raiders are then eating Little Ceasers in Detroit, WKU is banking on Bham, and ULM is celebrating their sub-.500 Independence in Shreveport.

Highly doubt ulm is in Shreveport

Gotta agree with this. With LA Tech now completely out of the BC$ picture, the I-Bowl will snatch up LA Tech to guarantee more ticket sales.

I guess the question remains do all of the I Bowl conferences have teams available? If not, La Tech is in and they may go with ULM for the marquee matchup. The place would be sold out, with probably the highest in bowl attendance outside of the BCS games. Then again, ULL and La Tech could do the same at the I Bowl.

I may be a little off, but I think if MT wins against Troy and next weeks game between MT and stAte is for the championship, I could see the liberty end up taking the winner between those 2 if the spot should be available, which is looking possible. If that is the case, then NO and Godaddy get their choice of SBC teams, I think godaddy takes the loser of the MT/stAte game, UL ends up going to New Orleans unless by some shocking revelation that their matchup would suck that La Tech starts lobbying the Independance bowl to get UL there as to avoid the possibility of having ULM there. Even with that, theres a good chance that UL sticks to its guns and goes to New Orleans to screw tech and Indy over who really pulled a crap move in 2008. You can flip flop UL and ULM with New Orleans and Indy. I think WKU goes to Birmingham as well and we end up with 5 bowl teams. Now of course I'm sure I'm wrong and none of this will happen.

(11-18-2012 12:34 PM)Tuffguy21 Wrote:  I may be a little off, but I think if MT wins against Troy and next weeks game between MT and stAte is for the championship, I could see the liberty end up taking the winner between those 2 if the spot should be available, which is looking possible. If that is the case, then NO and Godaddy get their choice of SBC teams, I think godaddy takes the loser of the MT/stAte game, UL ends up going to New Orleans unless by some shocking revelation that their matchup would suck that La Tech starts lobbying the Independance bowl to get UL there as to avoid the possibility of having ULM there. Even with that, theres a good chance that UL sticks to its guns and goes to New Orleans to screw tech and Indy over who really pulled a crap move in 2008. You can flip flop UL and ULM with New Orleans and Indy. I think WKU goes to Birmingham as well and we end up with 5 bowl teams. Now of course I'm sure I'm wrong and none of this will happen.

I think you are right...Indy/NO want La teams....but Tech would rather play ULL to avoid playing ULM...

(11-18-2012 12:21 PM)WarhawkReport Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 12:18 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 11:22 AM)WarhawkReport Wrote:  I think the NO Bowl takes Ark St to fulfill their championship commitment, leaving Mobile for ULL. I think the Blue Raiders are then eating Little Ceasers in Detroit, WKU is banking on Bham, and ULM is celebrating their sub-.500 Independence in Shreveport.

Memo, the NO Bowl doesn't have to take the SBC Champion again this year if they are placed in a bowl first.

it's 2 out of 4 years they have to have the conference champion

Yes, and they can do it again this year if they want to and next season would be required to take the SBC Champion. Fact!

(11-18-2012 12:34 PM)Tuffguy21 Wrote:  I may be a little off, but I think if MT wins against Troy and next weeks game between MT and stAte is for the championship, I could see the liberty end up taking the winner between those 2 if the spot should be available, which is looking possible. If that is the case, then NO and Godaddy get their choice of SBC teams, I think godaddy takes the loser of the MT/stAte game, UL ends up going to New Orleans unless by some shocking revelation that their matchup would suck that La Tech starts lobbying the Independance bowl to get UL there as to avoid the possibility of having ULM there. Even with that, theres a good chance that UL sticks to its guns and goes to New Orleans to screw tech and Indy over who really pulled a crap move in 2008. You can flip flop UL and ULM with New Orleans and Indy. I think WKU goes to Birmingham as well and we end up with 5 bowl teams. Now of course I'm sure I'm wrong and none of this will happen.

I doubt you will see two Louisiana teams in the Independance.

(11-18-2012 12:38 PM)WarhawkReport Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 12:34 PM)Tuffguy21 Wrote:  I may be a little off, but I think if MT wins against Troy and next weeks game between MT and stAte is for the championship, I could see the liberty end up taking the winner between those 2 if the spot should be available, which is looking possible. If that is the case, then NO and Godaddy get their choice of SBC teams, I think godaddy takes the loser of the MT/stAte game, UL ends up going to New Orleans unless by some shocking revelation that their matchup would suck that La Tech starts lobbying the Independance bowl to get UL there as to avoid the possibility of having ULM there. Even with that, theres a good chance that UL sticks to its guns and goes to New Orleans to screw tech and Indy over who really pulled a crap move in 2008. You can flip flop UL and ULM with New Orleans and Indy. I think WKU goes to Birmingham as well and we end up with 5 bowl teams. Now of course I'm sure I'm wrong and none of this will happen.

I think you are right...Indy/NO want La teams....but Tech would rather play ULL to avoid playing ULM...

I really want to play Tech in a bowl game, but I think I might actually get more pleasure out of watching them play yall in a bowl game, and better yet, if Browning is healthy and gets going, I think yall can/will beat them. Their defense isn't even close to being able to stop him. The only thing that would stop Kolton in the game would be the endzone. Oh and I think there would be a gigantic crowd that is VERY involved in the game which would make for good TV.

(11-18-2012 12:44 PM)Tuffguy21 Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 12:38 PM)WarhawkReport Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 12:34 PM)Tuffguy21 Wrote:  I may be a little off, but I think if MT wins against Troy and next weeks game between MT and stAte is for the championship, I could see the liberty end up taking the winner between those 2 if the spot should be available, which is looking possible. If that is the case, then NO and Godaddy get their choice of SBC teams, I think godaddy takes the loser of the MT/stAte game, UL ends up going to New Orleans unless by some shocking revelation that their matchup would suck that La Tech starts lobbying the Independance bowl to get UL there as to avoid the possibility of having ULM there. Even with that, theres a good chance that UL sticks to its guns and goes to New Orleans to screw tech and Indy over who really pulled a crap move in 2008. You can flip flop UL and ULM with New Orleans and Indy. I think WKU goes to Birmingham as well and we end up with 5 bowl teams. Now of course I'm sure I'm wrong and none of this will happen.

I think you are right...Indy/NO want La teams....but Tech would rather play ULL to avoid playing ULM...

I really want to play Tech in a bowl game, but I think I might actually get more pleasure out of watching them play yall in a bowl game, and better yet, if Browning is healthy and gets going, I think yall can/will beat them. Their defense isn't even close to being able to stop him. The only thing that would stop Kolton in the game would be the endzone. Oh and I think there would be a gigantic crowd that is VERY involved in the game which would make for good TV.

Either ULM or ULL in the Independence Bowl against Tech would be huge for attendance. Cajuns would definitely travel and it would be so easy for ULM and Tech to fill that stadium.

Attendance wise for each bowl, it would make the most sense for ULL to go to New Orleans and ULM to got to Shreveport. I believe Tech will do everything they can to avoid playing either of us...that separation thing you know. The butt hurt would be massive in Ruston and I would enjoy it tremendously, no matter if the Cajuns or Warhawks got the pleasure.

Someone mentioned it earlier...the Cajuns in 08 with Fenroy & Desormeaux would STILL be pounding Tech had they been allowed to play

(11-18-2012 12:21 PM)WarhawkReport Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 12:18 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 11:22 AM)WarhawkReport Wrote:  I think the NO Bowl takes Ark St to fulfill their championship commitment, leaving Mobile for ULL. I think the Blue Raiders are then eating Little Ceasers in Detroit, WKU is banking on Bham, and ULM is celebrating their sub-.500 Independence in Shreveport.

Memo, the NO Bowl doesn't have to take the SBC Champion again this year if they are placed in a bowl first.

it's 2 out of 4 years they have to have the conference champion

They do not have to this year, and I believe they are also exempt this year if the SBC Champion chooses to play in a non league affiliated Bowl.

In other words, should either MTSU or ASU win the league, and choose to play in say the Birmingham, Music City, or Liberty bowls, the NO bowl would not have to honor its contract.

The thing is, we'll know by next Saturday night if the Liberty Bowl is open. Its very possible they could make a decision before Dec 1st, and just announce it after the game.

(11-18-2012 12:50 PM)InjunJohn Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 12:44 PM)Tuffguy21 Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 12:38 PM)WarhawkReport Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 12:34 PM)Tuffguy21 Wrote:  I may be a little off, but I think if MT wins against Troy and next weeks game between MT and stAte is for the championship, I could see the liberty end up taking the winner between those 2 if the spot should be available, which is looking possible. If that is the case, then NO and Godaddy get their choice of SBC teams, I think godaddy takes the loser of the MT/stAte game, UL ends up going to New Orleans unless by some shocking revelation that their matchup would suck that La Tech starts lobbying the Independance bowl to get UL there as to avoid the possibility of having ULM there. Even with that, theres a good chance that UL sticks to its guns and goes to New Orleans to screw tech and Indy over who really pulled a crap move in 2008. You can flip flop UL and ULM with New Orleans and Indy. I think WKU goes to Birmingham as well and we end up with 5 bowl teams. Now of course I'm sure I'm wrong and none of this will happen.

I think you are right...Indy/NO want La teams....but Tech would rather play ULL to avoid playing ULM...

I really want to play Tech in a bowl game, but I think I might actually get more pleasure out of watching them play yall in a bowl game, and better yet, if Browning is healthy and gets going, I think yall can/will beat them. Their defense isn't even close to being able to stop him. The only thing that would stop Kolton in the game would be the endzone. Oh and I think there would be a gigantic crowd that is VERY involved in the game which would make for good TV.

Either ULM or ULL in the Independence Bowl against Tech would be huge for attendance. Cajuns would definitely travel and it would be so easy for ULM and Tech to fill that stadium.

Attendance wise for each bowl, it would make the most sense for ULL to go to New Orleans and ULM to got to Shreveport. I believe Tech will do everything they can to avoid playing either of us...that separation thing you know. The butt hurt would be massive in Ruston and I would enjoy it tremendously, no matter if the Cajuns or Warhawks got the pleasure.

Real easy to root for ULM under that circumstance.

But I just don't see the I-Bowl taking two teams from Louisiana under any circumstance.

While LTU's loss to Utah State kept them out of a BCS bowl, it probably locks ULM out of the I-Bowl, which would have been a perfect geographic fit.

So the real question is, which Belt team gets stuck in Hawai'i or Detroit?

(11-18-2012 12:21 PM)WarhawkReport Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 12:18 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 11:22 AM)WarhawkReport Wrote:  I think the NO Bowl takes Ark St to fulfill their championship commitment, leaving Mobile for ULL. I think the Blue Raiders are then eating Little Ceasers in Detroit, WKU is banking on Bham, and ULM is celebrating their sub-.500 Independence in Shreveport.

Memo, the NO Bowl doesn't have to take the SBC Champion again this year if they are placed in a bowl first.

it's 2 out of 4 years they have to have the conference champion

I think if they take a co-champion that satisfies the conference champion criteria.