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RE: All Things Realignment
The best part of conference realignment dribbled down the Big East's leg when we were borne into the American.
 
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https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college...mes-season

Is Oklahoma happy in the Big 12? OU president David Boren talks about the state of the conference .

There were various things that happened to various candidates but I would say kind of a perfect storm of events for various candidates that we were looking at it that made it better to continue where we are and build on the financial stability.
 
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Me thinks Boren just likes talking to anyone who will listen.
 
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(07-11-2017 04:38 PM)KCat Wrote:  https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college...ve-forward

Well written summary of how the conference got to where they are today. After last year's B12 expansion study, which turned out to be a public relations disaster, the conference has been maligned more than ever. They earned that.

While I don't see it has high probability, nor do I expect it, it is still within their power to expand anytime. Any number of internal or external events could trigger that. Those who tweet often on such matters were proven to be totally unreliable a year ago. So I don't expect tweets to be a harbinger of expansion.
 
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Over the past few months,, Dave Boren said that a "seismic change was coming", Paul Finebaum and Tom Osborne indicated
that Oklahoma was looking to make a move and Flugar tweeting that Oklahoma and Kansas were on their way out.. The drums
were beating that the the B12 was ready of blow up... Then,, like last fall (after their no-expansion meeting) all the b12 members
were given their "happy talk" talking points.. We are all on the same page about no expansion,, we all really like each other, etc.
If they didn't once again stamp down the negative talk,, the League has no chance, it would go into a death spiral.. With their "Happy Talk" other teams won't look stupid if they join, the seven teams that were for expansion last year, have a chance of surviving in a P5 conference...
 
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RE: All Things Realignment
Flashpoint: The forces that could extinguish the Big 12 are coming from all sides

Illustration by staff/The Dallas Morning News
By Chuck Carlton , Staff Writer Contact Chuck Carltonon Twitter:@ChuckCarltonDMN
As long as the Big 12 exists, someone somewhere will be speculating about its eventual demise.
Consider it a given, one of the natural laws of college football.
You get the idea.
Predictions of doom notwithstanding, the conventional wisdom from a variety of industry sources surveyed holds that the most likely short-term path for the Big 12 is the status quo.
The theory goes that life is good in the Big 12 right now with big revenue paydays into the next decade, and there's no immediate incentive for a raiding party or a breakup. Challenging the Big 12's grant of rights could be messy. If the football title game leads to more College Football Playoff appearances, the Big 12 might be just as good a home as its supporters say.
Then again, strange things can happen.
Consider the ill-fated Archduke Franz Ferdinand and how his demise led to World War I. Or, in a far different scenario, how Missouri's wanderlust, of all things, helped jumpstart the last round of expansion.
Against that framework, here are two potential flashpoints that could ignite things with the Big 12:
West coast, best coast?
FILE - In this Nov. 19, 2016, file photo, Colorado head coach Mike MacIntyre sings the school song with his players after an NCAA college football game in Boulder, Colo. MacIntyre earned coach of the year honors on the Associated Press All-Pac-12 team announced on Friday, Dec. 9, 2016. (AP Photo/David Zalubowski, File)
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FILE - In this Nov. 19, 2016, file photo, Colorado head coach Mike MacIntyre sings the school song with his players after an NCAA college football game in Boulder, Colo. MacIntyre earned coach of the year honors on the Associated Press All-Pac-12 team announced on Friday, Dec. 9, 2016. (AP Photo/David Zalubowski, File)
Something with the Pac-12. By virtue of past history and geography, it makes the most sense.
In 2010, the Pac-10 made a serious effort to lure six Big 12 teams to what would have been a super-conference. More talks occurred in 2011. At the end, the Pac-12 added Big 12 member Colorado along with Utah.
With 10 teams, the Big 12 remains the smallest of the power five conferences. Meanwhile the Pac-12 hasn't been able to jumpstart its conference television network. At $34.8 million this year, the Big 12 may distribute more than $5 million apiece to its schools more than the Pac-12, according to an estimate by the San Jose (Calif.) Mercury News -- and that doesn't include Big 12 third-tier rights.

CBS Sports reported that during its own exploration of expansion, the Big 12 and Pac-12 had talks about a scheduling alliance. Asked about the report, Big 12 Commissioner Bob Bowlsby downplayed it -- calling it "passing conversations" -- but didn't deny discussions.
"We have a lot of business relations," Bowlsby said. "We've talked with the ACC about doing things in concert. We've talked with the Pac-12 about doing things in concert."
What form could a deal with the Pac-12 take? Take your pick.
The Big 12 wish list might involve convincing Arizona and Arizona State that the conference is stable enough and rich enough to consider switching leagues.
The Pac-12 could make another run like its last one that might include Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State -- although the Longhorn Network could be problematic to any discussion.
Or maybe the leagues merge, say 10 teams from the Pac-12 and six from the Big 12 based on TV markets and strength of programs. And if you thought the old Southwest Conference/Big Eight talks got messy and political, imagine this game of musical chairs.
Your move, Jim Delany
In this June 11, 2010, file photo, Nebraska's athletic director Tom Osborne speaks to the media during a news conference in Lincoln, Neb. Nebraska's departure from the Big 12 Conference will cost the university more than $9 million. Osborne said the long-term benefits of entering the Big Ten makes the settlement a very good investment. (AP Photo/Nati Harnik, File)
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In this June 11, 2010, file photo, Nebraska's athletic director Tom Osborne speaks to the media during a news conference in Lincoln, Neb. Nebraska's departure from the Big 12 Conference will cost the university more than $9 million. Osborne said the long-term benefits of entering the Big Ten makes the settlement a "very good investment." (AP Photo/Nati Harnik, File)
Jim Delany and the Big Ten go on the hunt. None of the current commissioners quite exude manifest destiny quite like Delany.
Assuming he's Big Ten commissioner for a few more years, the 69-year-old Delany may not want his final foray into expansion to be defined by Maryland (actually not a bad pickup) and Rutgers (d'oh!). With the Big Ten's new deals with ESPN and Fox expiring in 2022-23 -- just a couple of years ahead of the Big 12's contracts -- Delany could make a big play to get to 16 teams.
Would there be a bigger haul than Texas and Oklahoma to whet the appetite of TV network? (Yes, there are grant of rights and the LHN deal and state politics and Oklahoma's lack of Association of American Universities membership, but we're spitballin' here). Any play on Texas and Oklahoma could lead the SEC, Pac-12 and even the ACC to get involved.
Scott has already tried a couple of times. Even with most of its TV deal tied up long term, don't expect the SEC and Commissioner Greg Sankey to stay on the sideline if a prime opportunity materialized. Remember, former Texas AD DeLoss Dodd once talked with the ACC, whose Commissioner John Swofford neatly eviscerated the old Big East.
Just maybe those seismic plates start shifting again.
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