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Its not over: Rutgers and Maryland to Big 10
ESPN is reporting that Maryland is going to move to the Big 10, and Rutgers will follow them.

That leaves the ACC and Big East with odd numbers and both will have to add.
11-17-2012 05:27 PM
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RE: Its not over: Rutgers and Maryland to Big 10
(11-17-2012 05:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  ESPN is reporting that Maryland is going to move to the Big 10, and Rutgers will follow them.

That leaves the ACC and Big East with odd numbers and both will have to add.

ACC will pull from Big East just because they can. Big East will need two. I'm thinking Florida Atlantic and Lamar.
11-17-2012 05:33 PM
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RE: Its not over: Rutgers and Maryland to Big 10
Lamar, Oh yeah with that rich Football Tradition. No way North Carolina Central school of the misfit toys has a bigger following.....
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I kind of see ECU and Fresno getting into the Big East if this happens.
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RE: Its not over: Rutgers and Maryland to Big 10
This could be very big for you guy as presumably CUSA will be hit again and they have already been eyeing a couple of your programs. Big East could lose up to four more teams if Louisville and maybe Cinci try to bolt to the Big 12 after Rutgers and UConn get snagged.
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RE: Its not over: Rutgers and Maryland to Big 10
(11-17-2012 06:48 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  This could be very big for you guy as presumably CUSA will be hit again and they have already been eyeing a couple of your programs. Big East could lose up to four more teams if Louisville and maybe Cinci try to bolt to the Big 12 after Rutgers and UConn get snagged.


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RE: Its not over: Rutgers and Maryland to Big 10
(11-17-2012 06:48 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  This could be very big for you guy as presumably CUSA will be hit again and they have already been eyeing a couple of your programs. Big East could lose up to four more teams if Louisville and maybe Cinci try to bolt to the Big 12 after Rutgers and UConn get snagged.

I would like to see the SBC have serious talks with USM and Tulsa.
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RE: Its not over: Rutgers and Maryland to Big 10
(11-17-2012 07:38 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  
(11-17-2012 06:48 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  This could be very big for you guy as presumably CUSA will be hit again and they have already been eyeing a couple of your programs. Big East could lose up to four more teams if Louisville and maybe Cinci try to bolt to the Big 12 after Rutgers and UConn get snagged.

I would like to see the SBC have serious talks with USM and Tulsa.

It would make sense to go on the offensive at this point. I guess it all comes down to the perception of your members if they feel the Belt or CUSA is more secure long term. You would UTEP might jump from CUSA to the MWC if all this does unfold which would make the new CUSA an even stranger grouping of teams.
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RE: Its not over: Rutgers and Maryland to Big 10
Might as well. Don't like your chances but hey you never know they could say yes.
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RE: Its not over: Rutgers and Maryland to Big 10
I think ECU is gooooone. That slams CUSA hard. They will have USM, Tulsa, a couple halfway decent teams, and a lot of hot garbage. There will be absolutely no reason for any Sun Belt program to go rushing to align with UAB, Charlotte, FIU, Marshall, ODU, Tulane, Rice, UNT, UTEP. None.

It really will be time for the SBC to commit to one another and refuse to be raided by that.
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RE: Its not over: Rutgers and Maryland to Big 10
Logically, it makes no sense for an SBC team to join CUSA if ECU is not involved.

My guess is that you will hear about our expansion talks with App and GSU heating up, along with feelers to USM. (I doubt we go after Tulsa.) SBC will want to have as strong of a league as possible to present to our own members.
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(11-17-2012 07:54 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  I think ECU is gooooone. That slams CUSA hard. They will have USM, Tulsa, a couple halfway decent teams, and a lot of hot garbage. There will be absolutely no reason for any Sun Belt program to go rushing to align with UAB, Charlotte, FIU, Marshall, ODU, Tulane, Rice, UNT, UTEP. None.

It really will be time for the SBC to commit to one another and refuse to be raided by that.

I think under that scenario UTEP is gone to the MWC as long been rumored and who knows maybe even Tulsa gets a look for the MWC then too.
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RE: Its not over: Rutgers and Maryland to Big 10
(11-17-2012 08:03 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  
(11-17-2012 07:54 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  I think ECU is gooooone. That slams CUSA hard. They will have USM, Tulsa, a couple halfway decent teams, and a lot of hot garbage. There will be absolutely no reason for any Sun Belt program to go rushing to align with UAB, Charlotte, FIU, Marshall, ODU, Tulane, Rice, UNT, UTEP. None.

It really will be time for the SBC to commit to one another and refuse to be raided by that.

I think under that scenario UTEP is gone to the MWC as long been rumored and who knows maybe even Tulsa gets a look for the MWC then too.

The only way I think CUSA will be able to pluck SBC teams is to invite multiple teams together, ala the WAC going after ULL, ASU, and UNT several years ago. From an ASU perspective, moving to CUSA makes little sense on our own, but throw say a MTSU and WKU into the equation, and you have a different situation entirely.

CUSA is going to have to convince any SBC team it invites of a regional factor...to go along with a slightly better TV contract.
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RE: Its not over: Rutgers and Maryland to Big 10
(11-17-2012 08:09 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(11-17-2012 08:03 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  
(11-17-2012 07:54 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  I think ECU is gooooone. That slams CUSA hard. They will have USM, Tulsa, a couple halfway decent teams, and a lot of hot garbage. There will be absolutely no reason for any Sun Belt program to go rushing to align with UAB, Charlotte, FIU, Marshall, ODU, Tulane, Rice, UNT, UTEP. None.

It really will be time for the SBC to commit to one another and refuse to be raided by that.

I think under that scenario UTEP is gone to the MWC as long been rumored and who knows maybe even Tulsa gets a look for the MWC then too.

The only way I think CUSA will be able to pluck SBC teams is to invite multiple teams together, ala the WAC going after ULL, ASU, and UNT several years ago. From an ASU perspective, moving to CUSA makes little sense on our own, but throw say a MTSU and WKU into the equation, and you have a different situation entirely.

CUSA is going to have to convince any SBC team it invites of a regional factor...to go along with a slightly better TV contract.

If the leadership of the SBC doesn't do something like a grant of rights to take away that fear of being the last one left.....we will probably get raided.

Nobody really wants to leave for that mess....but nobody wants to get left behind.
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RE: Its not over: Rutgers and Maryland to Big 10
(11-17-2012 08:09 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(11-17-2012 08:03 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  
(11-17-2012 07:54 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  I think ECU is gooooone. That slams CUSA hard. They will have USM, Tulsa, a couple halfway decent teams, and a lot of hot garbage. There will be absolutely no reason for any Sun Belt program to go rushing to align with UAB, Charlotte, FIU, Marshall, ODU, Tulane, Rice, UNT, UTEP. None.

It really will be time for the SBC to commit to one another and refuse to be raided by that.

I think under that scenario UTEP is gone to the MWC as long been rumored and who knows maybe even Tulsa gets a look for the MWC then too.

The only way I think CUSA will be able to pluck SBC teams is to invite multiple teams together, ala the WAC going after ULL, ASU, and UNT several years ago. From an ASU perspective, moving to CUSA makes little sense on our own, but throw say a MTSU and WKU into the equation, and you have a different situation entirely.

CUSA is going to have to convince any SBC team it invites of a regional factor...to go along with a slightly better TV contract.

And better name brand. It should not matter but if CUSA was the Sunbelt schools now but you had the CUSA name your respect/money would be improved without any real change. It is dumb but it is what it is.

I do agree with you though it would be easier if they took a group at once. For instance I think that would be the only way to crack the MAC would be to take several schools at once to break the core. Otherwise you can only take peripheral teams like UMass.
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(11-17-2012 08:11 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(11-17-2012 08:09 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(11-17-2012 08:03 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  
(11-17-2012 07:54 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  I think ECU is gooooone. That slams CUSA hard. They will have USM, Tulsa, a couple halfway decent teams, and a lot of hot garbage. There will be absolutely no reason for any Sun Belt program to go rushing to align with UAB, Charlotte, FIU, Marshall, ODU, Tulane, Rice, UNT, UTEP. None.

It really will be time for the SBC to commit to one another and refuse to be raided by that.

I think under that scenario UTEP is gone to the MWC as long been rumored and who knows maybe even Tulsa gets a look for the MWC then too.

The only way I think CUSA will be able to pluck SBC teams is to invite multiple teams together, ala the WAC going after ULL, ASU, and UNT several years ago. From an ASU perspective, moving to CUSA makes little sense on our own, but throw say a MTSU and WKU into the equation, and you have a different situation entirely.

CUSA is going to have to convince any SBC team it invites of a regional factor...to go along with a slightly better TV contract.

If the leadership of the SBC doesn't do something like a grant of rights to take away that fear of being the last one left.....we will probably get raided.

Nobody really wants to leave for that mess....but nobody wants to get left behind.

True, but it will have to be together, no one wants to be the first to leave either.
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RE: Its not over: Rutgers and Maryland to Big 10
If say you were to lose a couple programs, does that put Idaho and NMSU on the radar as possible replacements?
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(11-17-2012 08:18 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  True, but it will have to be together, no one wants to be the first to leave either.

So do a grant of rights, up the buyout, and end the threat.
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(11-17-2012 08:21 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  If say you were to lose a couple programs, does that put Idaho and NMSU on the radar as possible replacements?

NSMU...yes Idaho...No

There are enough FCS schools with a strong enough name in the area that we could pick them up first.

The key to the entire SBC is MTSU...if we keep them, I dont see anyone moving outside of FAU.
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(11-17-2012 07:38 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  
(11-17-2012 06:48 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  This could be very big for you guy as presumably CUSA will be hit again and they have already been eyeing a couple of your programs. Big East could lose up to four more teams if Louisville and maybe Cinci try to bolt to the Big 12 after Rutgers and UConn get snagged.

I would like to see the SBC have serious talks with USM and Tulsa.

Lose: FIU and UNt
Gain: S. Miss and Tulsa

Sbc would lap CUSA if ECU leaves
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