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(11-11-2012 06:00 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  For the record, Blaine is a year removed from back-to-back conference titles. Yeah, we suck this year. Blaine had two extremely poor recruiting classes, but has since rebounded with two pretty good ones. If nothing else, he's earned time to see how we develop.

I'll leave it at that before this board becomes as unreadable as the zone...

So anything that is criticizing the team is "unreadable" in your book? What are you 12?

If it weren't for the CBI or CIT, Blaine wouldn't even have a job anymore. Keep believing the spin that he feeds you. Facts are facts. Blaine has won (1) ONE NCAA Tournament game in 11 years. At a real basketball school with real expectations, that gets you fired.

Yeah. I'm 12.

Like i said, unreadable.

I would suggest not rushing to any message board after our team loses to teams ranked 179 and 199 in RPI last season on our homecourt in a tournament we hand picked for 3 wins. Especially if you are expecting a bunch of positive feedback.

We may only have 3 or 4 wins entering conference play and that's if we step up our game.

(11-11-2012 07:01 PM)ODUR8R Wrote:  I would suggest not rushing to any message board after our team loses to teams ranked 179 and 199 in RPI last season on our homecourt in a tournament we hand picked for 3 wins. Especially if you are expecting a bunch of positive feedback.

We may only have 3 or 4 wins entering conference play and that's if we step up our game.

Agreed.

Out of BT's tenure at ODU, this is looking like it could be one of the worst.
You just don't lose these games, in a tournament like this - the past three games have been painful to watch (as well as much of last season).

I think from a fan perspective, since that we have no chance of an auto-bid, it's really going to be difficult to get people up and tuned in with this level of performance.

We will improve and hopefully turn it around, but anyone watching these games can see this looks like a barely over .500 team. It's a bit disappointing seeing some of our other sports (Field Hockey, Football, Men's Soccer) all working towards an at-large, when clearly Men's basketball will not be in that conversation.

(11-11-2012 06:58 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  Yeah. I'm 12.

Like i said, unreadable.

This board is no more unreadable than Blaine Taylor's "offense" is unwatchable.

Without talent, Blaine is a very pedestrian basketball coach. It's why we stunk his first couple years and why we've seen a historically bad drop after a couple terrible recruiting classes in a row.

A program that had as much success as we had earlier in Blaine's career should have capitalized on that success and started to land a better caliber of recruit. Much like what VCU has been doing of late. They capitalized on Anthony Grant and now are capitalizing on Shaka and landing big time recruits.

We have more money, more season ticket holders, a nicer arena, endowed scholarships, better fan support, MORE fans and a better talent pool to recruit from and despite all that, not only have we not recruited BETTER after out recent tourney successes, we've actually recruited WORSE.

Yes, this most recent class looks ok (Palmore is the only sure thing right now, Bacote has looked pretty mediocre thus far, Anichebe and McEwen are huge question marks and Clark has shown a little but not a lot) but the previous couple classes were absolutely horrendous.

And yet again next year, we have no one of any significance coming into this program. No top recruits, no even mediocre recruits who were being recruited by other mid major programs. We are being out nobodies for nobodies and that is the damn truth.

You won't like reading it but it needs to be said. The reason we are in the current shape we are in is because we lost recruiting battle after recruiting battle and that appears to be what is continuing to happen.

I've said all along, Blaine is a decent coach when he has talent because he knows defense and we can usually score just enough to beat most of the teams we play with the talent we have.

Without talent, he's a very mediocre coach and his horrible offensive gameplans (or really lack thereof) get exposed like an open wound. Our offense against three flat out terrible basketball teams has been anemic at best.

45 points against Holy Cross????? And imagine how bad we'd be if we hadn't of lucked into Painter and Hill transferring here!!!??? It would be an absolutely nightmare/catastrophe of biblical proportions, which is what I am expecting next year to look like when all we have in the frontcourt is Anichebe, Ross, maybe Larsen and a 6"7 205 pound freshman.

And we are going into CUSA, running Blaine's half court rockfight style with THAT LINEUP and THAT ROSTER. He's gotta go. I'm sorry. ODU has succeeded well before Blaine got here and we will succeed well after he is gone because we have thousands of people willing to invest millions of dollars in this program to see it do so. Blaine didn't build this program. He helped rebuild it slightly, but I honestly think the Ted had more to do with that than him. I will maintain that to my dying day. Blaine always comes up short in the NCAA tourney. ALWAYS. Yeah, we managed to beat a garbage Notre Dame team by 1 freaking point a few years ago, but that's IT.

Capel beat a very good Villanova team without Hodge back in the day and when the program fell apart under his watch a few years later, he got the axe as well.

I couldn't be happier that Wood hasn't extended Blaine yet. Quite frankly, we need to go in a new direction. We need to bring in an exciting young coach who players WANT to play for, who can WIN recruiting battles, who can sell the program to kids.

We don't need a 50-60 year old man who had a mid life crisis and shaved his iconic mustache, stopped dying his hair, lost weight and probably bought a new sportscar too lol. He isn't the guy for ODU to go into CUSA. The cupboard is flat out BARE right now.

Yeah, we have some decent guards......Batten, Hill, Palmore....they are ok. But they are winning us any NCAA tourney games. Especially considering they will be playing with ZERO help from the frontcourt.

We couldn't beat a bunch of patsy schools in our own sham tournament. We are going to have a losing record this year and get crushed OOC and by the better teams in conference. The returning frontcourt is a joke.

Again, if you don't want to read it, don't........but don't tell me that I don't have a right to voice my opinion about how awful the basketball we played over the last 3 days is and don't tell me that I can't ask whether it is time to go in a new direction or not because too anyone paying attention, it clearly is.

Taylor wanted out and was willing to go to Wyoming to get away from this current debacle. I really, really, really, really wish he would have went. Maybe then we could get someone in who can actually recruit players who have offers from schools other than Kennesaw State and Long Island, etc.

Or we can just act like next year Anton will turn into Loughton, Anichebe will become Frank the Tank and ummm.....someone else will become Dahi? I'm sure we can count on that right?

I think it's the Ted that's the problem. I think the lighting should be improved behind the rim so the team can get a better depth of field of the rim. Temperature? Also those 4 advertisement banners at the upper corners of the arena should be only on during time outs. Sometimes those ads flash at a high rate that it gets very disruptive. No one should be looking at those ******* banners during the game. I don't need a papa johns pizza banner flashing on and off while my team is playing basketball. Anyway, I give up. I don't understand why this team can't shoot the ball.

And now VCU trolls are annoying me on twitter out of nowhere, lovely.

Unfortunately, many fans are more worried about Bobby f'ckn Hollywood than the team's performance.

I dont think he wins enough games this year to keep his job. I think the move to CUSA will help make the decision easier.

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From the AUP that we all agreed to when entering this board.

Razor, I feel you, and share many of your views. However, you continue to cross the line from basketball criticsm to personal attack (and I am not debating with you where that line is). Stop it. Now.

I cleaned your post to remove the attacks, yet keep the message intact.
This board will not become the CAAzone as the posters here have faith in me to moderate it. The next warning comes with vacation time.

Here's my thoughts, although it's not as many words as RR, which I'm not knocking at all.

http://tinyurl.com/adcps2j

Not for the super rose colored glasses crowd.

For some painful reason I showed up early to watch the HC/UTSA game and asked aloiud, "how the hell did we lose to HC? Both of these teams look brutal." No way we lose either of those two games in any of the past ten years I have been following ODU ball.

This is going to be a long year. BT needs to step his game up; I'll still support; thank God this team will be better in January than we were today.

We make Shaq look good.

(11-12-2012 12:32 AM)SportsDoc757 Wrote:  For some painful reason I showed up early to watch the HC/UTSA game and asked aloiud, "how the hell did we lose to HC? Both of these teams look brutal." No way we lose either of those two games in any of the past ten years I have been following ODU ball.

This is going to be a long year. BT needs to step his game up; I'll still support; thank God this team will be better in January than we were today.

I'll still be at every game.......even though I am expecting quite a few routes by any good team we play this season.

We might turn it over 30 times against VCU and lose by 40. I'd honestly give that scenario about a 25% chance right now.

How on Earth did it come to this? Well at least it will finally shut T-Mac and Heywood up.....they can no longer brag about how we've never finished worse than 4th before or played in a play in game or whatever.....there is ZERO chance we finish top 4 in the CAA this year.

Drexel, Delaware, GMU, Towson and Northeastern will all most likely finish ahead of us, if not more.

Don't kid yourselves guys, we will NOT improve THAT much. These were flat out terrible teams we lost too. I'd be surprised if any of those 3 teams finishes above 200 in the rpi. And we went 1-2 against them. Ugly.

I thought Bacote showed well yesterday in what was his third college game. Palmore is raw, but you can see the talent is there. I was heavily disappointed with Hill. Didn't see any growth from him yesterday. Painter seemed average at best, hoping to be proved wrong.

Cleveland State next weekend should be...interesting to say the least.

(11-11-2012 09:00 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Unfortunately, many fans are more worried about Bobby f'ckn Hollywood than the team's performance.

I can't speak for "many fans", but I can say for my own self that at least my vocal opinion may end up helping to remove the mic from in front of Bobby Hollywood's juvenile mouth. It'll be a huge relief when that happens.

My opinion as to the team's or Coach Taylor's performance, on the other hand, is pretty much meaningless.

Unlike you, I do not intend to offer up my season tickets for sale, nor threaten to pull my support from ODU. If we somehow turn a corner and make this into a successful season, I'll be delighted. But even if not, I'll still be a fan. If Blaine Taylor is coaching this team next year, I'll still be a fan. If someone else is coaching the team next year, I'll still be a fan.

Somehow I suspect that the majority of the ODU fanbase will likewise continue supporting the team -- no matter what ultimately happens with this season or with Coach Taylor. But that's just a guess on my part.

As I said, I don't presume to speak for "many fans". Just for myself.

(11-12-2012 07:40 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  I can't speak for "many fans", but I can say for my own self that at least my vocal opinion may end up helping to remove the mic from in front of Bobby Hollywood's juvenile mouth. It'll be a huge relief when that happens.

My opinion as to the team's or Coach Taylor's performance, on the other hand, is pretty much meaningless.

Unlike you, I do not intend to offer up my season tickets for sale, nor threaten to pull my support from ODU. If we somehow turn a corner and make this into a successful season, I'll be delighted. But even if not, I'll still be a fan. If Blaine Taylor is coaching this team next year, I'll still be a fan. If someone else is coaching the team next year, I'll still be a fan.

Somehow I suspect that the majority of the ODU fanbase will likewise continue supporting the team -- no matter what ultimately happens with this season or with Coach Taylor. But that's just a guess on my part.

As I said, I don't presume to speak for "many fans". Just for myself.

Seconded.

(11-11-2012 09:26 PM)ODUR8R Wrote:  Here's my thoughts, although it's not as many words as RR, which I'm not knocking at all.

http://tinyurl.com/adcps2j

Not for the super rose colored glasses crowd.

I agree with the exception of this:

"2.Despite being so young on the perimeter, ODU still defends very well."

I don't think anyone on the team is defending very well. Opposing guards on MEAC and Patriot teams can drive on us at will. That's one of the things that I hope to see an improvement on during the season,

I only saw yesterday's game but the perimeter D was atrocious.

I believe they have the ability to defend well, but 3 games in 3 days may helped with the defensive lapses on day 3 for the younger guards. The perimeter defense was just fine the first two games.