(11-05-2012 09:32 PM)Cardsfan1974 Wrote: I'm new to this site,in my short time here. What I have seen is that Frank the Tank,jumps to the defense of Espin every time someone mentions the conspiracy from espn to destroy the BE league. A blind person can see what espn angle is towards the BE.
It kinda makes me think that Frank works for Espin
Disagree Homer, he just provides his opinions from his perspective.
Are you telling me that ESPN isn't trying to destroy the BE ?
Also it my just be Franks Opinion,but it always seems he is protecting espin.
(11-05-2012 09:32 PM)Cardsfan1974 Wrote: I'm new to this site,in my short time here. What I have seen is that Frank the Tank,jumps to the defense of Espin every time someone mentions the conspiracy from espn to destroy the BE league. A blind person can see what espn angle is towards the BE.
It kinda makes me think that Frank works for Espin
Disagree Homer, he just provides his opinions from his perspective.
Are you telling me that ESPN isn't trying to destroy the BE ?
Also it my just be Franks Opinion,but it always seems he is protecting espin.
Some can say our opinions are skewed and protecting the Big East.
(11-05-2012 04:34 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: I understand why he's doing that (along with a number of his other Tweets) and know that Big East fans will obviously eat up the red meat, but it looks completely petty from the outside to have a high level conference executive doing that. In contrast, Aresco has a way of playing up the inherent strengths of the conference as opposed to trying to make the same tired comparisons to the ACC (or Big Ten or anyone else), which is much more effective.
Are you serious? The top guys at the ACC and Big 12 have been publicly slamming the Big East for over a year. I'm not talking about a low-level clown in the conference office ... I'm talking about their commissioners!
The other conferences need to be hit hard and often. I want blood. :noisycricket:
I just can't believe what I'm reading here. Frank is nowhere close to being a troll. Frank has defended the BE in the past and will do it again. It really doesn't matter to me if he is right/wrong in this specific case, and he's entitled to his opinion. The face that NJRed has defended Frank should speak volumes. He isn't here to get a rise out of folks. I view him as one of the most highly respected members of the entire Network. I think y'all need a thicker skin.
Wow. I was looking at the ratings and it sure looks like even the Mac looks better than the BIG. You can say that it does not include OSU, which I will admit, but do not mention PSU.
(11-05-2012 10:06 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: I just can't believe what I'm reading here. Frank is nowhere close to being a troll. Frank has defended the BE in the past and will do it again. It really doesn't matter to me if he is right/wrong in this specific case, and he's entitled to his opinion. The face that NJRed has defended Frank should speak volumes. He isn't here to get a rise out of folks. I view him as one of the most highly respected members of the entire Network. I think y'all need a thicker skin.
I believe Frank is one of the most logical, reasonable posters on these boards. But to say it's ok for the other conference commisioners to publicly insult the Big East, but our conference leaders should keep quiet, well .... I strongly disagree.
(11-05-2012 05:16 PM)TripleA Wrote: Frank, gotta disagree. Perception is reality. Conference commissioners and the media took potshots at the Big East all summer. Until Aresco showed up, nobody refuted a word. Even now, it is said repeatedly, in many ways, that the BE is now a minor conference, the Big Least, etc..
Managing public perception is one job of the conference office. I don't see a damn thing wrong with what Carparelli said. What he stated is true.
If you want to criticize Carparelli, then you should have criticized Neinas, Bowlsby and Swofford, too.
miami will always be a cheating pretender to many of those who watched football before 1980. those same people remember florida state was once a college for women. time changes perception.
True, but we need to hurry those perceptions along. I don't have a lot of time to wait around.
(11-05-2012 10:06 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: I just can't believe what I'm reading here. Frank is nowhere close to being a troll. Frank has defended the BE in the past and will do it again. It really doesn't matter to me if he is right/wrong in this specific case, and he's entitled to his opinion. The face that NJRed has defended Frank should speak volumes. He isn't here to get a rise out of folks. I view him as one of the most highly respected members of the entire Network. I think y'all need a thicker skin.
I believe Frank is one of the most logical, reasonable posters on these boards. But to say it's ok for the other conference commisioners to publicly insult the Big East, but our conference leaders should keep quiet, well .... I strongly disagree.
But you're not calling him a troll like some are. My post wasn't directed at you in any way.
(11-05-2012 10:06 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: I just can't believe what I'm reading here. Frank is nowhere close to being a troll. Frank has defended the BE in the past and will do it again. It really doesn't matter to me if he is right/wrong in this specific case, and he's entitled to his opinion. The face that NJRed has defended Frank should speak volumes. He isn't here to get a rise out of folks. I view him as one of the most highly respected members of the entire Network. I think y'all need a thicker skin.
I believe Frank is one of the most logical, reasonable posters on these boards. But to say it's ok for the other conference commisioners to publicly insult the Big East, but our conference leaders should keep quiet, well .... I strongly disagree.
I agree. Frank knows I respect him, and even like him, at least what I know on the internet. He absolutely doesn't troll, and I think he simply says what he believes. And he is unfailingly polite, no matter what is thrown back at him.
And Joey, all of us are a little defensive about the nBE, b/c we get slammed publicly so often, by almost everybody. the press, the big conferences, and the midgets, too, lol.
But the constant reality check does get old some days, and there is nothing wrong with coming back at him. The only problem is, some in here are unnecessarily blunt.
To Frank's everlasting credit, he deals with it and hangs in there, but he even gets on my nerves sometimes, lol.
(11-05-2012 05:16 PM)TripleA Wrote: Frank, gotta disagree. Perception is reality. Conference commissioners and the media took potshots at the Big East all summer. Until Aresco showed up, nobody refuted a word. Even now, it is said repeatedly, in many ways, that the BE is now a minor conference, the Big Least, etc..
Managing public perception is one job of the conference office. I don't see a damn thing wrong with what Carparelli said. What he stated is true.
If you want to criticize Carparelli, then you should have criticized Neinas, Bowlsby and Swofford, too.
miami will always be a cheating pretender to many of those who watched football before 1980. those same people remember florida state was once a college for women. time changes perception.
True, but we need to hurry those perceptions along. I don't have a lot of time to wait around.
thats my point exactly, the more positive brought to the light of day the faster the change
(11-05-2012 10:06 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: I just can't believe what I'm reading here. Frank is nowhere close to being a troll. Frank has defended the BE in the past and will do it again. It really doesn't matter to me if he is right/wrong in this specific case, and he's entitled to his opinion. The face that NJRed has defended Frank should speak volumes. He isn't here to get a rise out of folks. I view him as one of the most highly respected members of the entire Network. I think y'all need a thicker skin.
I never called him a troll. I won't back off of how I feel about his posts either, but not once did I call him a troll. However, I won't allow my point to be muddled in labels either.
(11-05-2012 10:06 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: I just can't believe what I'm reading here. Frank is nowhere close to being a troll. Frank has defended the BE in the past and will do it again. It really doesn't matter to me if he is right/wrong in this specific case, and he's entitled to his opinion. The face that NJRed has defended Frank should speak volumes. He isn't here to get a rise out of folks. I view him as one of the most highly respected members of the entire Network. I think y'all need a thicker skin.
Of course we need to get a thicker skin. Why else would we not like a Big 10 homer here telling us how great The ACC is and how much The Big East sucks. Thanks for setting us straight.
CJ
(11-05-2012 10:06 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote: I just can't believe what I'm reading here. Frank is nowhere close to being a troll. Frank has defended the BE in the past and will do it again. It really doesn't matter to me if he is right/wrong in this specific case, and he's entitled to his opinion. The face that NJRed has defended Frank should speak volumes. He isn't here to get a rise out of folks. I view him as one of the most highly respected members of the entire Network. I think y'all need a thicker skin.
Of course we need to get a thicker skin. Why else would we not like a Big 10 homer here telling us how great The ACC is and how much The Big East sucks. Thanks for setting us straight.
CJ
(11-05-2012 05:50 PM)NJRedMan Wrote: Okay guys, lets take it down a notch on Frank ok. He isn't some sort of troll that we run out of town with torches and pitchforks. I don't agree with his opinion here but he is a good poster who knows his stuff.
Really? SMH
Dude, you've been here for a month. How do you know who a troll is?
Ordinarily I like to read what Frank posts so that I don't drink too much koolaid and keep my feet firmly planted. He's sobering, yes, but not a troll. But in this case he is wrong. The Big East needs to fight back instead of being everyone's punk. At all levels. Thanks to the ESPiN blowhards who have gone unchallenged these past few years everyone now thinks they can take a swing at the BE and get away with it.
Like Aresco says, those days are over.
Exactly! + 3
Aresco has mentioned multiple times that his #1 job is to make those teams that have left or will be leaving the Big East Conf soon to REGRET their faithful decision.
I like that in a Commish...one who is willing to fight for what is RIGHT!
(11-05-2012 04:34 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: I understand why he's doing that (along with a number of his other Tweets) and know that Big East fans will obviously eat up the red meat, but it looks completely petty from the outside to have a high level conference executive doing that. In contrast, Aresco has a way of playing up the inherent strengths of the conference as opposed to trying to make the same tired comparisons to the ACC (or Big Ten or anyone else), which is much more effective.
Are you serious? The top guys at the ACC and Big 12 have been publicly slamming the Big East for over a year. I'm not talking about a low-level clown in the conference office ... I'm talking about their commissioners!
The other conferences need to be hit hard and often. I want blood. :noisycricket:
But you see...in Frank's elitist sports world...that's ok...but heaven forbid if a Big East Assoc Commish sends out a positive tweet about his own conf and future conf...and dares to compare it to the mighty "elitist" ACC.
Only those that Frank personally approves (ESPN, ACC, Big Ten, SEC, Big 12, Pac-12, etc...) can take shot after shot after shot after shot at the Big East...but if ANYONE from the Big East dares to even "tweet back", you can bet that within mins/hours, Frank will rush to the scene to protect his faux friends and idols.
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