From NunesMagician of course
http://www.nunesmagician.com/2012/11/1/3...-team-fans

Funny, their first game is a "Wow, that's rare..." Game.

According to Jay Bilas (who...ya know....has access to AD's and coaches unlike anyone here), said Syracuse makes more money off of OOC home games than any school in the country. I find it amusing that BE fans clamor to any news about their upcoming media rights deal. Ah well. I guess money doesnt matter....especially for a private school.

The Dome is larger than any other facility in the country and they play regional foes who can travel well and who 'Cuse doesn't have to pay much, so it's pure profit... it's genius!!! However, that has nothing to do with media rights which will dwarf in any major conference what 'Cuse makes from its home OCC games.

(11-02-2012 08:47 PM)IceJus10 Wrote:  The Dome is larger than any other facility in the country and they play regional foes who can travel well and who 'Cuse doesn't have to pay much, so it's pure profit... it's genius!!! However, that has nothing to do with media rights which will dwarf in any major conference what 'Cuse makes from its home OCC games.

I think you miss his point. He is commenting on the general interest in 'Cuse basketball, which is directly related to media rights deals. If there is strong fan support, then there are probs also people watching the games on TV. If there are people watching tha games on TV, then companies will pay big buck for advertising slots. If companies pay big bucks for advertising slots, then the TV channel will pay big bucks for the rights to show the games. Since SU is popular, losing SU will likely adversely affect the BIG EAST's future media deal(s).

(11-02-2012 06:58 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

From NunesMagician of course
http://www.nunesmagician.com/2012/11/1/3...-team-fans

Posting this also counts as Syracuse playing a home game.

(11-02-2012 06:58 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

From NunesMagician of course
http://www.nunesmagician.com/2012/11/1/3...-team-fans

Accurate. Gotta love it. This is not how Syracuse fans think of Syracuse, but how ESPN announcers think of Syracuse. They made the claims.

(11-03-2012 12:33 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(11-02-2012 08:47 PM)IceJus10 Wrote:  The Dome is larger than any other facility in the country and they play regional foes who can travel well and who 'Cuse doesn't have to pay much, so it's pure profit... it's genius!!! However, that has nothing to do with media rights which will dwarf in any major conference what 'Cuse makes from its home OCC games.

I think you miss his point. He is commenting on the general interest in 'Cuse basketball, which is directly related to media rights deals. If there is strong fan support, then there are probs also people watching the games on TV. If there are people watching tha games on TV, then companies will pay big buck for advertising slots. If companies pay big bucks for advertising slots, then the TV channel will pay big bucks for the rights to show the games. Since SU is popular, losing SU will likely adversely affect the BIG EAST's future media deal(s).

If any of the above were true...then why was the Big East WITH Syracuse earning just $3.2 Million per team (all-sports) and just $1.5 Million for non-football members?

Certainly doesn't seem that advertisers/networks were FLOCKING to throw money at Syracuse & the Big East when the Orange were members of the Big East Conf.

Plus, its pretty obvious that the New Big East teams will earn a heck of a lot more future $$$$ vs what Syracuse helped bring in for TV rights when they were a Big East member.

(11-03-2012 07:37 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(11-03-2012 12:33 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(11-02-2012 08:47 PM)IceJus10 Wrote:  The Dome is larger than any other facility in the country and they play regional foes who can travel well and who 'Cuse doesn't have to pay much, so it's pure profit... it's genius!!! However, that has nothing to do with media rights which will dwarf in any major conference what 'Cuse makes from its home OCC games.

I think you miss his point. He is commenting on the general interest in 'Cuse basketball, which is directly related to media rights deals. If there is strong fan support, then there are probs also people watching the games on TV. If there are people watching tha games on TV, then companies will pay big buck for advertising slots. If companies pay big bucks for advertising slots, then the TV channel will pay big bucks for the rights to show the games. Since SU is popular, losing SU will likely adversely affect the BIG EAST's future media deal(s).

If any of the above were true...then why was the Big East WITH Syracuse earning just $3.2 Million per team (all-sports) and just $1.5 Million for non-football members?

Certainly doesn't seem that advertisers/networks were FLOCKING to throw money at Syracuse & the Big East when the Orange were members of the Big East Conf.

Plus, its pretty obvious that the New Big East teams will earn a heck of a lot more future $$$$ vs what Syracuse helped bring in for TV rights when they were a Big East member.

Because the BIG EAST signed a long term contract with ESPN when it looked like SU (and the rest of the conference) was about to leave. Actually, it was seen as a legit contract when it was signed.

Also, according to some souces, the value of the BIG EAST TV contract dropped by about 5-10 million (a school) between now and the day before Syracuse and Pitt announced that they were leaving, whereas the ACC's contract went up by $4 million/school when Pitt and SU joined.

That's a $9-14 million per school dollar swing, which isn't anything to sneeze at.

"Plus, its pretty obvious that the New Big East teams will earn a heck of a lot more future $$$$ vs what Syracuse helped bring in for TV rights when they were a Big East member."

So, your above statement isn't even close to being true. The net present value of the nBE contract could end up being 1/3rd of the contract that the BE turned down when SU was in it.

**ND and WVU leaving the BIG EAST also helped deflate the BIG EAST's projected contract value, however, some of that is made up by the fact that the original offer that the BIG EAST got when it had SU and Pitt allowed it to start the contract early, which is important 1. for the tim evalue of money, and 2 because contracts are back-loaded**

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...ng-sources

that chart is hilarious...thank you for sharing

(11-02-2012 08:29 PM)CuseKid Wrote:  According to Jay Bilas (who...ya know....has access to AD's and coaches unlike anyone here), said Syracuse makes more money off of OOC home games than any school in the country. I find it amusing that BE fans clamor to any news about their upcoming media rights deal. Ah well. I guess money doesnt matter....especially for a private school.

Well they certainly have more of them than anyone else

However since this is actually publicly available information, revenue and proft reports, as well as attendence and a erage ticket prices, and withSyracuse' attendance for those games is actually quite a bit lower then Their conference games attendance, that statement simply isn't accurate.

(11-03-2012 01:12 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(11-03-2012 07:37 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(11-03-2012 12:33 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(11-02-2012 08:47 PM)IceJus10 Wrote:  The Dome is larger than any other facility in the country and they play regional foes who can travel well and who 'Cuse doesn't have to pay much, so it's pure profit... it's genius!!! However, that has nothing to do with media rights which will dwarf in any major conference what 'Cuse makes from its home OCC games.

I think you miss his point. He is commenting on the general interest in 'Cuse basketball, which is directly related to media rights deals. If there is strong fan support, then there are probs also people watching the games on TV. If there are people watching tha games on TV, then companies will pay big buck for advertising slots. If companies pay big bucks for advertising slots, then the TV channel will pay big bucks for the rights to show the games. Since SU is popular, losing SU will likely adversely affect the BIG EAST's future media deal(s).

If any of the above were true...then why was the Big East WITH Syracuse earning just $3.2 Million per team (all-sports) and just $1.5 Million for non-football members?

Certainly doesn't seem that advertisers/networks were FLOCKING to throw money at Syracuse & the Big East when the Orange were members of the Big East Conf.

Plus, its pretty obvious that the New Big East teams will earn a heck of a lot more future $$$$ vs what Syracuse helped bring in for TV rights when they were a Big East member.

Because the BIG EAST signed a long term contract with ESPN when it looked like SU (and the rest of the conference) was about to leave. Actually, it was seen as a legit contract when it was signed.

Also, according to some souces, the value of the BIG EAST TV contract dropped by about 5-10 million (a school) between now and the day before Syracuse and Pitt announced that they were leaving, whereas the ACC's contract went up by $4 million/school when Pitt and SU joined.

That's a $9-14 million per school dollar swing, which isn't anything to sneeze at.

"Plus, its pretty obvious that the New Big East teams will earn a heck of a lot more future $$$$ vs what Syracuse helped bring in for TV rights when they were a Big East member."

So, your above statement isn't even close to being true. The net present value of the nBE contract could end up being 1/3rd of the contract that the BE turned down when SU was in it.

**ND and WVU leaving the BIG EAST also helped deflate the BIG EAST's projected contract value, ....

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...ng-sources

Big East teams and the "new" Big East Teams will see a nice bump (probably a HUGE bump) up from their current TV deals (Big East all-sports, which includes Syracuse, are now getting just $3.2 Million per team...while CUSA teams are getting just $1.2 Million per team while the MWC schools are getting only approx $1 Million per team).

The Big East was due a big bump. They will get it. They were offered approx. $10MM/all sports team before Syracuse, Pitt, WVA, TCU and ND left and before all the new additions. They will likely get at least that much as the offer was below market value anyway.