(10-15-2012 03:02 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(10-14-2012 05:13 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  We're never going to pay a football coach $2M, but we could probably get up to $1M-1.1M.

If that is the max Temple pays for a coach, they will not keep one. That would be on the low end of what current Conference USA coaches make. SMU and Houston pay over $2 million a year for their coach. And I beleive every BE coach makes more than $1.5 million.

I have pulled info from the coach's salary database. This is actually a list of base salaries and really leaves off many bonues. The average salary for members of the NBE is over $1.5 million a season. That is the average. Note I did not include Syracuse, WVU, or Pitt in this conversation. If you are only willing to go up to $1.1 million, i twudl appear that some things have not changed.

School Conf Coach School Salary Other Total Pay Max Bonus
Cincinnati Big East Butch Jones $1,393,333 $500 $1,393,833 $330,000
Connecticut Big East Paul Pasqualoni $1,500,000 N/A $1,500,000 $114,583
Louisville Big East Charlie Strong $2,300,000 $5,000 $2,305,000 $500,000
Pittsburgh Big East Todd Graham N/A N/A N/A N/A
Rutgers Big East Greg Schiano $2,195,000 $101,969 $2,296,969 $530,000
South Florida Big East Skip Holtz $1,700,000 $0 $1,700,000 $350,000
Syracuse Big East Doug Marrone $1,048,625 N/A $1,048,625 N/A
West Virginia Big East Dana Holgorsen $1,490,000 $0 $1,490,000 $600,000
Alabama at Birmingham CUSA Neil Callaway $443,000 $3,800 $446,800 $305,000
Central Florida CUSA George O'Leary $1,392,043 $0 $1,392,043 $600,000
East Carolina CUSA Ruffin McNeill $881,860 $3,000 $884,860 $350,000
Houston CUSA Kevin Sumlin $1,200,000 $0 $1,200,000 $500,000
Marshall CUSA Doc Holliday $607,070 $12,750 $619,820 $80,000
Memphis CUSA Larry Porter $754,890 $0 $754,890 $190,000
Rice CUSA David Bailiff $625,001 N/A $625,001 N/A
Southern Methodist CUSA June Jones $1,727,082 N/A $1,727,082 N/A
Southern Mississippi CUSA Larry Fedora $685,000 $19,500 $704,500 $387,500
Texas-El Paso CUSA Mike Price $383,706 $10,000 $393,706 $320,853
Tulane CUSA Bob Toledo N/A N/A N/A N/A
Tulsa CUSA Bill Blankenship N/A N/A N/A N/A
Brigham Young Ind. Bronco Mendenhall N/A N/A N/A N/A
Navy Ind. Ken Niumatalolo $1,538,190 N/A $1,538,190 N/A
Temple MAC Steve Addazio N/A N/A N/A N/A
Boise State Mt. West Chris Petersen $1,525,000 $0 $1,525,000 $170,000

Just because everyone else does it doesn't mean we have to or will. It also doesn't mean we will be unable to keep Addazio. If BC offers him $2M, there's nothing we can do. We're never paying a football coach that much money. You have no right to say 'things haven't changed' because you have no clue. We cant continue raising tuition in a terrible economy and then pay our football coach $1.8M. Just isn't going to happen.

(10-15-2012 06:08 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(10-15-2012 03:02 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(10-14-2012 05:13 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  We're never going to pay a football coach $2M, but we could probably get up to $1M-1.1M.

If that is the max Temple pays for a coach, they will not keep one. That would be on the low end of what current Conference USA coaches make. SMU and Houston pay over $2 million a year for their coach. And I beleive every BE coach makes more than $1.5 million.

I have pulled info from the coach's salary database. This is actually a list of base salaries and really leaves off many bonues. The average salary for members of the NBE is over $1.5 million a season. That is the average. Note I did not include Syracuse, WVU, or Pitt in this conversation. If you are only willing to go up to $1.1 million, i twudl appear that some things have not changed.

Just because everyone else does it doesn't mean we have to or will. It also doesn't mean we will be unable to keep Addazio. If BC offers him $2M, there's nothing we can do. We're never paying a football coach that much money. You have no right to say 'things haven't changed' because you have no clue. We cant continue raising tuition in a terrible economy and then pay our football coach $1.8M. Just isn't going to happen.

Other than perception, how are those two things connected? Do you know of any schools that have a football coach being paid from student tuition?

I don't think anyone loves the arms race, but at least to a certain extent you have to keep up or fall beyond. That is not directed to Temple specifically, just a general statement.

(10-15-2012 02:51 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  I don't really recall anyone saying Temple would not win any Big East games. It was when someone suggest Temple would win the Big East that many scoffed.

This is false. Most were saying it would be a miracle if Temple won more than one BE game..and now we are 2-0. Another funny fact is UConn and USF lost to Temple in a down year. I can't wait til we have BE recruits playing in their junior/senior year. Things are looking up at 10th and Diamond

(10-15-2012 06:36 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(10-15-2012 06:08 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(10-15-2012 03:02 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(10-14-2012 05:13 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  We're never going to pay a football coach $2M, but we could probably get up to $1M-1.1M.

If that is the max Temple pays for a coach, they will not keep one. That would be on the low end of what current Conference USA coaches make. SMU and Houston pay over $2 million a year for their coach. And I beleive every BE coach makes more than $1.5 million.

I have pulled info from the coach's salary database. This is actually a list of base salaries and really leaves off many bonues. The average salary for members of the NBE is over $1.5 million a season. That is the average. Note I did not include Syracuse, WVU, or Pitt in this conversation. If you are only willing to go up to $1.1 million, i twudl appear that some things have not changed.

Just because everyone else does it doesn't mean we have to or will. It also doesn't mean we will be unable to keep Addazio. If BC offers him $2M, there's nothing we can do. We're never paying a football coach that much money. You have no right to say 'things haven't changed' because you have no clue. We cant continue raising tuition in a terrible economy and then pay our football coach $1.8M. Just isn't going to happen.

Other than perception, how are those two things connected? Do you know of any schools that have a football coach being paid from student tuition?

I don't think anyone loves the arms race, but at least to a certain extent you have to keep up or fall beyond. That is not directed to Temple specifically, just a general statement.

So perception isn't important to you?

congrats so far Temple...hope you continue to advance your program!

(10-15-2012 06:36 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Other than perception, how are those two things connected? Do you know of any schools that have a football coach being paid from student tuition?

Yes...Temple paid its football coach off state funding and student tuition for many many MANY years.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't give him a competitive salary...what I am saying is we need to take a couple more steps forward before we start increasing salaries. Right now, we need to finish building up our facilities and get Temple competitive against top Big East teams and hopefully ranked. Once some steps like that start occurring, I'm all for increases as long as all of Temple athletics are benefiting.

(10-15-2012 06:40 PM)pzz189 Wrote:  

(10-15-2012 02:51 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  I don't really recall anyone saying Temple would not win any Big East games. It was when someone suggest Temple would win the Big East that many scoffed.

This is false. Most were saying it would be a miracle if Temple won more than one BE game..and now we are 2-0. Another funny fact is UConn and USF lost to Temple in a down year. I can't wait til we have BE recruits playing in their junior/senior year. Things are looking up at 10th and Diamond

Agreed.

There was a lot of people ranking Temple dead last saying we were going to win no more than one games this year. I remember reading it posted all over the place.

(10-15-2012 08:18 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  congrats so far Temple...hope you continue to advance your program!

Thanks Bearcats1, it’s a nice start but there is still a lot of work to be done.

(10-15-2012 08:14 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(10-15-2012 06:36 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(10-15-2012 06:08 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(10-15-2012 03:02 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(10-14-2012 05:13 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  We're never going to pay a football coach $2M, but we could probably get up to $1M-1.1M.

If that is the max Temple pays for a coach, they will not keep one. That would be on the low end of what current Conference USA coaches make. SMU and Houston pay over $2 million a year for their coach. And I beleive every BE coach makes more than $1.5 million.

I have pulled info from the coach's salary database. This is actually a list of base salaries and really leaves off many bonues. The average salary for members of the NBE is over $1.5 million a season. That is the average. Note I did not include Syracuse, WVU, or Pitt in this conversation. If you are only willing to go up to $1.1 million, i twudl appear that some things have not changed.

Just because everyone else does it doesn't mean we have to or will. It also doesn't mean we will be unable to keep Addazio. If BC offers him $2M, there's nothing we can do. We're never paying a football coach that much money. You have no right to say 'things haven't changed' because you have no clue. We cant continue raising tuition in a terrible economy and then pay our football coach $1.8M. Just isn't going to happen.

Other than perception, how are those two things connected? Do you know of any schools that have a football coach being paid from student tuition?

I don't think anyone loves the arms race, but at least to a certain extent you have to keep up or fall beyond. That is not directed to Temple specifically, just a general statement.

So perception isn't important to you?

I didn't say that. I think everyone agrees the cost of college tuition needs to be reigned in. They are two different costs however and is anyone choosing or not choosing a school based on coach salary?

(10-15-2012 08:55 PM)ScreamShatter Wrote:  

(10-15-2012 06:36 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Other than perception, how are those two things connected? Do you know of any schools that have a football coach being paid from student tuition?

Yes...Temple paid its football coach off state funding and student tuition for many many MANY years.

Thanks for sharing. I suspect that was due to a lack of funding from other sources (athletic revenue, private donors, etc) and likely part of the reason for long periods of uncompetitive football.

(10-15-2012 11:59 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(10-15-2012 08:14 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(10-15-2012 06:36 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(10-15-2012 06:08 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(10-15-2012 03:02 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  If that is the max Temple pays for a coach, they will not keep one. That would be on the low end of what current Conference USA coaches make. SMU and Houston pay over $2 million a year for their coach. And I beleive every BE coach makes more than $1.5 million.

I have pulled info from the coach's salary database. This is actually a list of base salaries and really leaves off many bonues. The average salary for members of the NBE is over $1.5 million a season. That is the average. Note I did not include Syracuse, WVU, or Pitt in this conversation. If you are only willing to go up to $1.1 million, i twudl appear that some things have not changed.

Just because everyone else does it doesn't mean we have to or will. It also doesn't mean we will be unable to keep Addazio. If BC offers him $2M, there's nothing we can do. We're never paying a football coach that much money. You have no right to say 'things haven't changed' because you have no clue. We cant continue raising tuition in a terrible economy and then pay our football coach $1.8M. Just isn't going to happen.

Other than perception, how are those two things connected? Do you know of any schools that have a football coach being paid from student tuition?

I don't think anyone loves the arms race, but at least to a certain extent you have to keep up or fall beyond. That is not directed to Temple specifically, just a general statement.

So perception isn't important to you?

I didn't say that. I think everyone agrees the cost of college tuition needs to be reigned in. They are two different costs however and is anyone choosing or not choosing a school based on coach salary?

(10-15-2012 08:55 PM)ScreamShatter Wrote:  

(10-15-2012 06:36 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Other than perception, how are those two things connected? Do you know of any schools that have a football coach being paid from student tuition?

Yes...Temple paid its football coach off state funding and student tuition for many many MANY years.

Thanks for sharing. I suspect that was due to a lack of funding from other sources (athletic revenue, private donors, etc) and likely part of the reason for long periods of uncompetitive football.

Perhaps...but I think the reason TU football wasn't competitive was due to mismanagement and the fact that Temple was a commuter school up until last decade. Temple is in the process of massive growth and rebranding its campus culture. We also have a better AD now that he had back in the 90s. I think all those factors are why we are becoming competitive. But Big East money does help stabilize our athletics...and that's important for continued growth.

Temple looking better then most people thought. That is good for the Big East. Just hoping you don't look too good this coming Saturday. After that you, you can go undefeated.

(10-16-2012 09:45 PM)RUfan03 Wrote:  Temple looking better then most people thought. That is good for the Big East. Just hoping you don't look too good this coming Saturday. After that you, you can go undefeated.

Whatever happens, what's important is we're going in the right direction.

' Wrote:['emple Owl' pid='8382615' dateline='1350161742']
a game in the Big East this season....

BITE ME

the mac had you pushing to many pencils. you son of a bitchh

I admit I was wrong. But, really, where was this in the MAC, and where was it vs. Maryland.

Anyhow, congrats (especially if today's score holds up) I was wrong but I REFUSE to bite anyone