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That RBs you guys have there are monsters. A shame the Bearcats couldn't pull out that Miami,OH game cause this team needs only 2 more wins so the Big East can fill there bowl quata


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I think UC can be that team :D good luck rest of the year
10-29-2005 03:35 PM
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Thank you! :) I mentioned during the offseason that I thought, outside of West Virginia, UC had the best collection of running backs in the Big East. Some teams may have a better running back, but UC has some of the best collection of running backs and full backs in the Big East conference.
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Congrats to UC. I think they did well together and the team is getting better as the season goes on, this is result of good coaching. What has happened to the CUSE? They look terrible. Are they sure Robinson is better than coach P?
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SF Husky Wrote:Are they sure Robinson is better than coach MAC?
You mean Coach Paul P? MacPherson was long ago :D
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It's obvious UCin was a great addition to the big east. Football is the "weak" spot, but they're 4-3.

NO ONE questions their basketball:)
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uconnbaseball Wrote:It's obvious UCin was a great addition to the big east. Football is the "weak" spot, but they're 4-3.

NO ONE questions their basketball:)
Thanks for the love but we're 4-4
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Thanks for the props, Pusher. We really tried to give it to you guys in the 2nd half with crappy, conservative offensive playcalling, but, to your credit, you guys didn't give up. Props, and here's to a better next year for us both 04-cheers

BTW, That OL who gave up on a block, leading to the hit that took Fields out deserves some serious hazing this week. JMO.
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Lemmiwinks Wrote:Thanks for the props, Pusher. We really tried to give it to you guys in the 2nd half with crappy, conservative offensive playcalling, but, to your credit, you guys didn't give up. Props, and here's to a better next year for us both 04-cheers

BTW, That OL who gave up on a block, leading to the hit that took Fields out deserves some serious hazing this week. JMO.
Yes Congrats are in order for the bearcats. You guys will be very good next year. Good solid defensive game. 04-bow


On the other hand, Cuse has replaced temple for this year. I am not going to spew on Grob, since this is his first year with his system and somebody elses' players. He has definitly improved the defense over the last couple of years. The offense just has to learn the west coast . Once the offense gets going, the Cuse will be back. The problem is, how long will it take the offense to learn this system?
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Syracuse and Cincinnati both held onto their previous coaches too long. At least we let Minter go a year before The Orange fired Coach P(don't remember how to spell his name). Syracuse will be back. It will take a couple of recruiting classes and more familiarity with the West Coach offense.
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I agree. I actually think Syracuse can have a solid, bowl-quality team next year if Robinson would stop being stubborn and trying to force a system on a team that isn't built for it.
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RealDeal Wrote:
uconnbaseball Wrote:It's obvious UCin was a great addition to the big east.  Football is the "weak" spot, but they're 4-3.

NO ONE questions their basketball:)
Thanks for the love but we're 4-4
Oh whoops:)
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One interesting note, UC is now 2-2 against Syracuse over the last 5 or 6 years. 3 of the 4 games were at their Carrier Dome with UC going 1-2 there. Syracuse came to Cincinnati once with Cincinnati winning there.
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Cat's_Claw Wrote:Thank you! :) I mentioned during the offseason that I thought, outside of West Virginia, UC had the best collection of running backs in the Big East. Some teams may have a better running back, but UC has some of the best collection of running backs and full backs in the Big East conference.
The Cards have a very strong argument to say they are 2nd in rushing, even by individuals. First, Bush is top 10 in the nation at over 118 a game. Then Kolby Smith and George Stripling each average over 50 yards a game when they carry the ball at least once in the game. I say it like that because each of those 2 have missed a game or two due to injuries.

For UC, Glatthaar averages 63 yards a game. Moore and Benton average 39 and 33 a game respectively. Then Daniels averaged 27 yards a game in the first 3 UC games but has not rushed once in BE play so is no threat there this season.

I don't see how the Cats could claim 2nd in rushing even going by player depth but maybe its just me!
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Bush is Louisville's featured back. West Virginia and Cincinnati rotate their running backs and basically send them in waves. To say that Daniels isn't a threat is ridiculous. The bottomline is that Louisville uses one running back exclusively while using a few other, probably in gimmicky fashion to rest Bush. WVU and Cincinnati use waves of running backs exclusively, though West Virginia has a very talented All-Conference featured back. Louisville game is passing with a good running attack to balance it out, West Virginia and Cincinnati rely on the running game with passing helping to balance it out. That's why I compared those schools and their running attack.
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Cat's_Claw Wrote:Bush is Louisville's featured back. West Virginia and Cincinnati rotate their running backs and basically send them in waves. To say that Daniels isn't a threat is ridiculous. The bottomline is that Louisville uses one running back exclusively while using a few other, probably in gimmicky fashion to rest Bush. WVU and Cincinnati use waves of running backs exclusively, though West Virginia has a very talented All-Conference featured back. Louisville game is passing with a good running attack to balance it out, West Virginia and Cincinnati rely on the running game with passing helping to balance it out. That's why I compared those schools and their running attack.
No we don't, Bush and when healthy Kolby Smith is a 60/40 split.

Now with the emergence of RS Fr. George Stripling I expect the carries to be even more spread around-(you remember Stripling, he had over 100 yards against UC 2 weeks ago. He also had over 80 against UNC).
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Cat's_Claw Wrote:Bush is Louisville's featured back. West Virginia and Cincinnati rotate their running backs and basically send them in waves. To say that Daniels isn't a threat is ridiculous. The bottomline is that Louisville uses one running back exclusively while using a few other, probably in gimmicky fashion to rest Bush. WVU and Cincinnati use waves of running backs exclusively, though West Virginia has a very talented All-Conference featured back. Louisville game is passing with a good running attack to balance it out, West Virginia and Cincinnati rely on the running game with passing helping to balance it out. That's why I compared those schools and their running attack.
Maybe we disagree, but in my book a player that does NOT have a single rushing carry in Big East play by the start of November is not a rushing threat. Feel free to explain why I am wrong there!

As for the argument as a whole, you can call Stripling and Smith gimmick RB's but the NCAA numbers do not lie. They would be the #2 and #3 backs on UC's team if we want to discuss rushing yards, which is normally your standard thing to look at. The fact that they average 50+ a game when Bush averages 20 carries a game to me says they are that good. They get those numbers with limited attempts.

Having a featured back that is NFL quality does not mean his top 2 backups are not as good as a barrel full of runners for another team who each get equal carries (or close). We won't agree on this but every number I see favors the Cards on this one.

As for what teams use to set up their offense, that is a very common misconception about the Cards that the entire nation has. Fact is, we have 259 rushing attempts on the year and only 223 passes. And even if UofL is looking to set up a passing game, that doesn't disqualify the backs from being at the top of the league, as the numbers play out.
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Exactly, we are a power running team first and foremost.

In 2004 we were 60% run and 40% pass and it is pretty close to that in 2005.

Our offense is very simple, it is feed the studs and the studs on the UofL offense are the RBs.
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