(09-19-2012 12:59 PM)BMcKitchup Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 12:18 PM)TrojanNation Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 12:09 PM)troy4ever21 Wrote:  TROY is in the same boat. Montgomery has a fairly nice airport, but it's almost impossible to get a flight there. So Atlanta and Pensacola are the closest airports.

I think AthDept look more at the team's travel ability, not necessarily fans travel abililty.

I am sure every team charters into Montgomery or Dothan, then jumps on a bus for 45min-hr.

Its not ideal, but it is not too bad.

It is about the same as flying into Dallas and busing up to Denton

Perhaps for charter flights, but what about commercial flights for olympic sports? DFW is America's 2nd busiest airport, Dothan has 14 flights total today while Montgomery has 15. DFW alone offers nearly 1,750 flights per day....This means that there probably are not alot of non-stop flights and hardly any arrival time options.

Bingo

(09-19-2012 01:17 PM)panama Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 12:59 PM)BMcKitchup Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 12:18 PM)TrojanNation Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 12:09 PM)troy4ever21 Wrote:  TROY is in the same boat. Montgomery has a fairly nice airport, but it's almost impossible to get a flight there. So Atlanta and Pensacola are the closest airports.

I think AthDept look more at the team's travel ability, not necessarily fans travel abililty.

I am sure every team charters into Montgomery or Dothan, then jumps on a bus for 45min-hr.

Its not ideal, but it is not too bad.

It is about the same as flying into Dallas and busing up to Denton

Perhaps for charter flights, but what about commercial flights for olympic sports? DFW is America's 2nd busiest airport, Dothan has 14 flights total today while Montgomery has 15. DFW alone offers nearly 1,750 flights per day....This means that there probably are not alot of non-stop flights and hardly any arrival time options.

Bingo

Why would Troy teams charter a flight out of Montgomery or Dothan when Troy(the city) has a perfectly acceptable airport for charter flights???

(09-19-2012 03:23 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Why would Troy teams charter a flight out of Montgomery or Dothan when Troy(the city) has a perfectly acceptable airport for charter flights???

The runway is not long enough for larger jets. I know they have been planning on expanding to allow for chartered flights (not commercial though- i think) for a while now, just haven't completed it yet.

I forgot it was that short. They definitly need to expand that airport.

Why not Savannah airport for Georgia Southern? It's a 45 minute ride to Statesboro from there.

(09-19-2012 03:42 PM)Tennessee_Eagle Wrote:  Why not Savannah airport for Georgia Southern? It's a 45 minute ride to Statesboro from there.

that would make to much sense, plus the whole media market thing

Just to keep you SBC folks in the loop.. Southern is closing in on getting the $10m we need to break ground on our new 57,000 sqft football ops endzone building. We are also holding a student vote at the end of the month that is in two parts. 1st part will allocate funds for stadium expansion, the other would cover the budget gap we need to put our budget on par or above the SBC midpoint.

We all should be hearing more in the coming months. Ground breaking is rumored at January.

(09-19-2012 08:18 PM)Seven Would Be Nice Wrote:  Just to keep you SBC folks in the loop.. Southern is closing in on getting the $10m we need to break ground on our new 57,000 sqft football ops endzone building. We are also holding a student vote at the end of the month that is in two parts. 1st part will allocate funds for stadium expansion, the other would cover the budget gap we need to put our budget on par or above the SBC midpoint.

We all should be hearing more in the coming months. Ground breaking is rumored at January.

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Just to keep you SBC folks in the loop.. Southern is closing in on getting the $10m we need to break ground on our new 57,000 sqft football ops endzone building. We are also holding a student vote at the end of the month that is in two parts. 1st part will allocate funds for stadium expansion, the other would cover the budget gap we need to put our budget on par or above the SBC midpoint. <br />
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We all should be hearing more in the coming months. Ground breaking is rumored at January. <br />
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Oh sorry, do you not like FCS information being posted in an FCS thread? Figured I'd bring some facts to the table.
CARRY ON.







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(09-19-2012 07:19 PM)ATLGSUEAGLE Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 03:42 PM)Tennessee_Eagle Wrote:  Why not Savannah airport for Georgia Southern? It's a 45 minute ride to Statesboro from there.

that would make to much sense, plus the whole media market thing

That is still two plane rides for most conference members

(09-19-2012 10:51 PM)panama Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 07:19 PM)ATLGSUEAGLE Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 03:42 PM)Tennessee_Eagle Wrote:  Why not Savannah airport for Georgia Southern? It's a 45 minute ride to Statesboro from there.

that would make to much sense, plus the whole media market thing

That is still two plane rides for most conference members

So who is the best option? Picking schools based on media market size hasn't panned out too well... I don't think picking by airport accessibility or least amount of layovers will work out too well either.



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I go away for a couple of days and you bring up airports close to Boone, NC, again.
I have given more airports around Boone than most of you have towns.
App State normally flies out of either Hickory Airport, about half an hour South, or Tri-Cities Airport in Tennessee about 45 minutes NW.
They also have Winston-Salem/Greensboro Airport an hour away or Charlotte International Airport about 1 1/2 hours away.
All of these are directly reached by 4 or 6 lane highways.
Additionally Google HQ in Lenoir uses their airport which is 20 minutes from Boone and can land most jets,
Also North Wilkesboro/Wilkesboro airport is really long and can land almost anything, 30 minutes from Boone.
Whoever North Texas is talking to must have gone to Boone back in the 1920's when they were a kid, or is thinking of some other place.
If a 20 or 30 minute bus ride is too far, do you want us to build an airfield on top of the football field? Geez.
I went to the Montana game in Boone a week ago Saturday (App State Won) and was there all day driving around with wonderful roads. So many that even the almost 32,000 people that showed up for the night game had no problem getting into Boone or Kidd Brewer Stadium.
Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky and GSU in Atlanta are not that far away. Now what do we discuss next, restaurants? They have plenty of those also.
Besides, your Presidents do not seem to want to add anyone.

I've been to Boone, it's very easy to get to. I can see maybe TxSt fans and ULL/ULM fans not wanting to make the trip to Charlotte and renting a car but its really a wonderful place and very easy to get to. You don't even need directions from the airport, just follow all of the App State car flags out of Charlotte.

People want to make it out to be that "The Rock" is on top of Mt. Everest for some reason.

(09-19-2012 10:51 PM)panama Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 07:19 PM)ATLGSUEAGLE Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 03:42 PM)Tennessee_Eagle Wrote:  Why not Savannah airport for Georgia Southern? It's a 45 minute ride to Statesboro from there.

that would make to much sense, plus the whole media market thing

That is still two plane rides for most conference members

Honestly, I just don't get that. The whole media market thing I can understand only because Networks are driving this thing. Not that I think it will work or I agree with it but it is what it is. But, travel just seems a stretch. Especially if we were to join the sunbelt. I mean most of the schools are within one or two state lines. I just don't believe the fact that we don't have Hartsfield airport in our back yard really matters in this instance

You should see our CAA travel bill and that's flying from a hub. We have no bus trips in the CAA and 19 sports. It IS a consideration and a big one once travel starts going over $1M. All of those trips become 3 day trips all of a sudden. You're talking lost classroom time on top of the monetary costs. Our MBB team looked like they had played an NBA season 2/3 of the way through our season last year. It's also the reason why the $$$ HAVE tpo be there for the Big East. If the money doesn't develop that league will break up because the travel will be ridiculous and not worth it. Realignment is about a whole host of checklist items and travel distance is a huge one because it affects the bottom line.

(09-19-2012 12:42 PM)panama Wrote:  

(09-19-2012 12:32 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  Should have added App. St. and another and gone to divisions.

Great idea on paper until you start paying to send your Olympic sports there. I never want to go through that again. Travel cost us 2 to 4 MBB games in CAA play last season. I think we are the closest SBC school to App and we're 300 miles away. Troy is 480 miles away. ULM is 770 miles away.

You didn't really just blame BB losses on travel did you?

(09-20-2012 07:27 AM)panama Wrote:  You should see our CAA travel bill and that's flying from a hub. We have no bus trips in the CAA and 19 sports. It IS a consideration and a big one once travel starts going over $1M. All of those trips become 3 day trips all of a sudden. You're talking lost classroom time on top of the monetary costs. Our MBB team looked like they had played an NBA season 2/3 of the way through our season last year. It's also the reason why the $$$ HAVE tpo be there for the Big East. If the money doesn't develop that league will break up because the travel will be ridiculous and not worth it. Realignment is about a whole host of checklist items and travel distance is a huge one because it affects the bottom line.

I understand the situation you are in at the moment with the CAA. But I am referring to Georgia Southern and the SBC. I don't see travel being a deterrent. We currently travel to South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee and Alabama while in the Southern Conference at the FCS level. Most of them nowhere near a major airport. I just don't see how travel will be greatly affected with a move to the SBC. Especially if we are split up in divisions. We would no longer travel to SC and would add and easy instate trip to Atlanta. Based on my assumptions for how the divisions would lay out, we would add Florida, Arkansas and Kentucky. I just don't see how that is a big deal.

You guys talk about App St being in a hole that no one can ever get in to or out of. You realize that they are in a conference now that brings teams in and out of Boone all the time right??? Boone is a great town and I promise your first visit there you will see why it is a great place to be. Boone is alot closer then south Florida to all of the rest of the conference.

(09-20-2012 09:07 AM)Tennessee_Eagle Wrote:  

(09-20-2012 07:27 AM)panama Wrote:  You should see our CAA travel bill and that's flying from a hub. We have no bus trips in the CAA and 19 sports. It IS a consideration and a big one once travel starts going over $1M. All of those trips become 3 day trips all of a sudden. You're talking lost classroom time on top of the monetary costs. Our MBB team looked like they had played an NBA season 2/3 of the way through our season last year. It's also the reason why the $$$ HAVE tpo be there for the Big East. If the money doesn't develop that league will break up because the travel will be ridiculous and not worth it. Realignment is about a whole host of checklist items and travel distance is a huge one because it affects the bottom line.

I understand the situation you are in at the moment with the CAA. But I am referring to Georgia Southern and the SBC. I don't see travel being a deterrent. We currently travel to South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee and Alabama while in the Southern Conference at the FCS level. Most of them nowhere near a major airport. I just don't see how travel will be greatly affected with a move to the SBC. Especially if we are split up in divisions. We would no longer travel to SC and would add and easy instate trip to Atlanta. Based on my assumptions for how the divisions would lay out, we would add Florida, Arkansas and Kentucky. I just don't see how that is a big deal.

Are you referring to just football? The issue is not fan travel but rather sports teams travel. Anything over 6 hours driving is likely a commercial flight for Olympic sports. Georgia Southern is only less than a 5 hour drive from one SBC member, GSU. You're under 7 hours from only 2 (add in Troy). USA is 8 hours. MT is 7 hours plus. Most of the conference's basketball, volleyball and golf would have to take 2 planes and a decent bus ride.

(09-20-2012 09:19 AM)Usajags Wrote:  You guys talk about App St being in a hole that no one can ever get in to or out of. You realize that they are in a conference now that brings teams in and out of Boone all the time right??? Boone is a great town and I promise your first visit there you will see why it is a great place to be. Boone is alot closer then south Florida to all of the rest of the conference.

Again, its not about fan travel. Its about athletic teams travel. FAU is 10 minutes from a major airport. Mobile is 628 miles from Boone. That's 10 hours and 21 minutes driving. So your Olympic sports are going to have to fly from Mobile to Atlanta to Charlotte and hen take a bus for an hour and half plus. Unless you can book United Airways Express direct. Most of the conference probably does not have direct flights into Charlotte.