(09-10-2012 08:35 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 07:11 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  If I was Gus Malzahn I would push for the UA-stAte series and then get the win every year as a Red Wolf. Wouldn't that be nice?

I think thats what he would love to leave as his lasting impression. Malzahn is very much out to prove to a lot of people, many of them in this state, that he is a top notch college coach who can win anywhere, with anyone.

He would love nothing more then to leave ASU several years down the road with brand new facilities in place, a program that has reached the top 25 and is getting all sorts of national attention, and an every year series with Arkansas that attracks the attention of the entire state.

If he could pull that off and hand the program over to Lashlee, he'd go down as one of the greatest coaches in the history of this state. Dont for a second think he doesnt want to do that just to prove his naysayers wrong.

If that was true...why not go to Vanderbilt? That is a program that is always been hungry for a revamp. Or did he see an opportunity to go to Arkansas State as a stepping stone to a job better than Vanderbilt down the road? I think you guys are reading way too much into the Gus Bus rolling into Jonesboro. Down here in Cajun Country we know Hud is on to bigger and better things eventually. You would be wise to accept that reality now so it won't crush you emotionally.

(09-10-2012 09:22 PM)cajunhawk Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 08:35 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 07:11 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  If I was Gus Malzahn I would push for the UA-stAte series and then get the win every year as a Red Wolf. Wouldn't that be nice?

I think thats what he would love to leave as his lasting impression. Malzahn is very much out to prove to a lot of people, many of them in this state, that he is a top notch college coach who can win anywhere, with anyone.

He would love nothing more then to leave ASU several years down the road with brand new facilities in place, a program that has reached the top 25 and is getting all sorts of national attention, and an every year series with Arkansas that attracks the attention of the entire state.

If he could pull that off and hand the program over to Lashlee, he'd go down as one of the greatest coaches in the history of this state. Dont for a second think he doesnt want to do that just to prove his naysayers wrong.

If that was true...why not go to Vanderbilt? That is a program that is always been hungry for a revamp. Or did he see an opportunity to go to Arkansas State as a stepping stone to a job better than Vanderbilt down the road? I think you guys are reading way too much into the Gus Bus rolling into Jonesboro. Down here in Cajun Country we know Hud is on to bigger and better things eventually. You would be wise to accept that reality now so it won't crush you emotionally.

Malzahn is an Arkansan. He really is. He has many, many, friends here. His church family is here and it is very important to him.

He might leave....there are no guarantees....but he is a little different than your normal head coach.

He may have an eye on the Arkansas job at some point....or he may not have liked what he saw there and want to build an alternative.

He might consider Auburn if Chizik goes and they ask. But he might not want his wife back in that Bama/Auburn firestorm. Hard to say.

Nobody knows except Malzahn...certainly not you.

(09-10-2012 09:55 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 09:22 PM)cajunhawk Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 08:35 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 07:11 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  If I was Gus Malzahn I would push for the UA-stAte series and then get the win every year as a Red Wolf. Wouldn't that be nice?

I think thats what he would love to leave as his lasting impression. Malzahn is very much out to prove to a lot of people, many of them in this state, that he is a top notch college coach who can win anywhere, with anyone.

He would love nothing more then to leave ASU several years down the road with brand new facilities in place, a program that has reached the top 25 and is getting all sorts of national attention, and an every year series with Arkansas that attracks the attention of the entire state.

If he could pull that off and hand the program over to Lashlee, he'd go down as one of the greatest coaches in the history of this state. Dont for a second think he doesnt want to do that just to prove his naysayers wrong.

If that was true...why not go to Vanderbilt? That is a program that is always been hungry for a revamp. Or did he see an opportunity to go to Arkansas State as a stepping stone to a job better than Vanderbilt down the road? I think you guys are reading way too much into the Gus Bus rolling into Jonesboro. Down here in Cajun Country we know Hud is on to bigger and better things eventually. You would be wise to accept that reality now so it won't crush you emotionally.

Malzahn is an Arkansan. He really is. He has many, many, friends here. His church family is here and it is very important to him.

He might leave....there are no guarantees....but he is a little different than your normal head coach.

He may have an eye on the Arkansas job at some point....or he may not have liked what he saw there and want to build an alternative.

He might consider Auburn if Chizik goes and they ask. But he might not want his wife back in that Bama/Auburn firestorm. Hard to say.

Nobody knows except Malzahn...certainly not you.

Sounds like the garden variety stepping stone head coaching move to me. Whatever you need to tell yourself dude.

ASU realist fan stepping in. Does Gus like it here at ASU? Right now....definitely. He's making big bucks and helped secure naming rights to the stadium and funds for a new facility. He's working hard to take this program to the "next level" as he says quite often. A part of getting there lies in the hands of the fans. Sure we had a great crowd for the Memphis game, but ASU crowds are notorious for decreasing each week.

Heck, last year we kept winning and the crowds kept getting smaller. Gus believes he can change that, but what if it keeps being the same ole' ASU crowds. I think he would get too frustrated if the team is winning and the fan support is not there. And then.....peace out.

(09-10-2012 10:06 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  ASU realist fan stepping in. Does Gus like it here at ASU? Right now....definitely. He's making big bucks and helped secure naming rights to the stadium and funds for a new facility. He's working hard to take this program to the "next level" as he says quite often. A part of getting there lies in the hands of the fans. Sure we had a great crowd for the Memphis game, but ASU crowds are notorious for decreasing each week.

Heck, last year we kept winning and the crowds kept getting smaller. Gus believes he can change that, but what if it keeps being the same ole' ASU crowds. I think he would get too frustrated if the team is winning and the fan support is not there. And then.....peace out.

Moving up----Arkansas might pick the La Tech Coach--the MOnroe coach----the louisiana coach----Tech coach has done a very good job of almost beating some last year and winning a very poor conference----Monroe has done pretty good with HUGE handicaps and of course had the big win----louisiana Coach has turned a sleeping Giant into more than could ever have been imagined in 1 year but had so much more potential than the other 2!!!!

(09-10-2012 10:06 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  ASU realist fan stepping in. Does Gus like it here at ASU? Right now....definitely. He's making big bucks and helped secure naming rights to the stadium and funds for a new facility. He's working hard to take this program to the "next level" as he says quite often. A part of getting there lies in the hands of the fans. Sure we had a great crowd for the Memphis game, but ASU crowds are notorious for decreasing each week.

Heck, last year we kept winning and the crowds kept getting smaller. Gus believes he can change that, but what if it keeps being the same ole' ASU crowds. I think he would get too frustrated if the team is winning and the fan support is not there. And then.....peace out.

Moving up----Arkansas might pick the La Tech Coach--the MOnroe coach----the louisiana coach----Tech coach has done a very good job of almost beating some last year and winning a very poor conference----Monroe has done pretty good with HUGE handicaps and of course had the big win----louisiana Coach has turned a sleeping Giant into more than could ever have been imagined in 1 year but had so much more potential than the other 2!!!!

(09-10-2012 09:22 PM)cajunhawk Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 08:35 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 07:11 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  If I was Gus Malzahn I would push for the UA-stAte series and then get the win every year as a Red Wolf. Wouldn't that be nice?

I think thats what he would love to leave as his lasting impression. Malzahn is very much out to prove to a lot of people, many of them in this state, that he is a top notch college coach who can win anywhere, with anyone.

He would love nothing more then to leave ASU several years down the road with brand new facilities in place, a program that has reached the top 25 and is getting all sorts of national attention, and an every year series with Arkansas that attracks the attention of the entire state.

If he could pull that off and hand the program over to Lashlee, he'd go down as one of the greatest coaches in the history of this state. Dont for a second think he doesnt want to do that just to prove his naysayers wrong.

If that was true...why not go to Vanderbilt? That is a program that is always been hungry for a revamp. Or did he see an opportunity to go to Arkansas State as a stepping stone to a job better than Vanderbilt down the road? I think you guys are reading way too much into the Gus Bus rolling into Jonesboro. Down here in Cajun Country we know Hud is on to bigger and better things eventually. You would be wise to accept that reality now so it won't crush you emotionally.

You act like stAte fans don't realize know Gus will move on to bigger and better things "eventually"? The question is whether it will be at the end of this year to Arkansas. I'll bet Hud will be gone sooner than Gus.

Large school fans want their coaches to come from other big programs. The average fan doesn't realize the talent level of coaches at the mid-major level these days. In the SBC alone you have Malzahn, Hudspeth, Cristobal (CUSA bound), Taggert, Blakeney, and even Berry. Would Malzahn be interested in the Arkansas job?.......no doubt. I think he would be interested in Auburn or Tennessee as well if they came open. If the Auburn job did come open, I think they would be interested in Malzahn and also I think they would be very interested in Hudspeth from his roots in the state at North Alabama. But that is where perception comes in. Alabama got their coach from the Miami Dolphins and Auburn fans would want a big splash like that as well, all the while they have a stud coach that would be perfect for them at Louisiana.

I'm biased to the SBC guys and I would love all of them to want to stay at their respective schools like Chris Petersen, but I understand it is rare to find a guy like that.

(09-10-2012 09:22 PM)cajunhawk Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 08:35 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 07:11 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  If I was Gus Malzahn I would push for the UA-stAte series and then get the win every year as a Red Wolf. Wouldn't that be nice?

I think thats what he would love to leave as his lasting impression. Malzahn is very much out to prove to a lot of people, many of them in this state, that he is a top notch college coach who can win anywhere, with anyone.

He would love nothing more then to leave ASU several years down the road with brand new facilities in place, a program that has reached the top 25 and is getting all sorts of national attention, and an every year series with Arkansas that attracks the attention of the entire state.

If he could pull that off and hand the program over to Lashlee, he'd go down as one of the greatest coaches in the history of this state. Dont for a second think he doesnt want to do that just to prove his naysayers wrong.

If that was true...why not go to Vanderbilt? That is a program that is always been hungry for a revamp. Or did he see an opportunity to go to Arkansas State as a stepping stone to a job better than Vanderbilt down the road? I think you guys are reading way too much into the Gus Bus rolling into Jonesboro. Down here in Cajun Country we know Hud is on to bigger and better things eventually. You would be wise to accept that reality now so it won't crush you emotionally.

There was some talk at the time when he turned it down that Vandy was unable to convince Malzahn that they were ready to place a greater emphasis on athletics, and build the program up to what it needs to compete in the SEC.

(09-10-2012 10:06 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  Gus believes he can change that, but what if it keeps being the same ole' ASU crowds. I think he would get too frustrated if the team is winning and the fan support is not there. And then.....peace out.

Your issue there is that the Jonesboro metro is 119,000. We are getting 28,000 to start the season. That's a damn good number for the population base. Getting numbers that are a quarter of your metro population into the stadium week after week is a tough one.

In order to get the sort of attendance growth you are talking about he has to succeed in making ASU a statewide program that draws more from all over the state. The only way to do that is consistent Top 25 performances year after year and that doesn't happen in 2 years.

So yeah, if he gets frustrated within one or two years then he's not the guy to build the program and will have to go to someplace that somebody else built up instead.

Is he unrealistic and impatient? Don't know. Does he want to build up something over 10 years and follow a Petersen, Bryant, Broyles, type model? Don't know. Everyone swore Cristobal was gone...but he stuck with FIU so far.

I just get frustrated when everyone thinks they can read his mind and stereotype him into a standard coaching mold and be so sure about it. The jury is still out on him.

(09-10-2012 10:38 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  Large school fans want their coaches to come from other big programs. The average fan doesn't realize the talent level of coaches at the mid-major level these days. In the SBC alone you have Malzahn, Hudspeth, Cristobal (CUSA bound), Taggert, Blakeney, and even Berry. Would Malzahn be interested in the Arkansas job?.......no doubt. I think he would be interested in Auburn or Tennessee as well if they came open. If the Auburn job did come open, I think they would be interested in Malzahn and also I think they would be very interested in Hudspeth from his roots in the state at North Alabama. But that is where perception comes in. Alabama got their coach from the Miami Dolphins and Auburn fans would want a big splash like that as well, all the while they have a stud coach that would be perfect for them at Louisiana.

I'm biased to the SBC guys and I would love all of them to want to stay at their respective schools like Chris Petersen, but I understand it is rare to find a guy like that.

Look, we could have lost Hud to Tulane already. But please quit lying to yourself that Ark is not Gus' dream job.

Y'all were convinced that Freeze wouldn't "Blindside" you last year but he did. Any reason Gus would be any more loyal to you than Freeze?

And since when does winning one game catapult Berry into these discussions? The big programs are going to look at his head coaching record both during his tenure at ulm and otherwise and pass.

(09-11-2012 02:26 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 10:38 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  Large school fans want their coaches to come from other big programs. The average fan doesn't realize the talent level of coaches at the mid-major level these days. In the SBC alone you have Malzahn, Hudspeth, Cristobal (CUSA bound), Taggert, Blakeney, and even Berry. Would Malzahn be interested in the Arkansas job?.......no doubt. I think he would be interested in Auburn or Tennessee as well if they came open. If the Auburn job did come open, I think they would be interested in Malzahn and also I think they would be very interested in Hudspeth from his roots in the state at North Alabama. But that is where perception comes in. Alabama got their coach from the Miami Dolphins and Auburn fans would want a big splash like that as well, all the while they have a stud coach that would be perfect for them at Louisiana.

I'm biased to the SBC guys and I would love all of them to want to stay at their respective schools like Chris Petersen, but I understand it is rare to find a guy like that.

Look, we could have lost Hud to Tulane already. But please quit lying to yourself that Ark is not Gus' dream job.

How the hell do you know what Gus Malzahn's dream job is?

all you haters gonna hate.

look......the asu fans have laid out WHY that it's possible that he doesn't jump. they know the ins and outs of their home state better than any of the haters do.

they know the personal history of gus better than any of the haters.

as a fan of a school that has had gene keady, ralph willard, dennis felton, and darrin horn move on for the money spot i'm acutely aware of 'dream jobs' being overruled by big $$$$$.

but right now we have a basketball coach that may stay here until he's ready to hang up his whistle. it's a myriad of reasons but it's similar to what arkstfan has explained to you haters.

99 times out of 100 a guy will leave his 'dream job' for the money. but there is always that 1 person that doesn't.

i'm not guaranteeing that gus won't leave asu no more than i'll guarantee that ray hopper won't ever leave western.

but i really understand where they're coming from.

how many times does arkstfan have to spell it out? is you just dumb? or just hatin'?

(09-10-2012 09:22 PM)cajunhawk Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 08:35 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 07:11 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  If I was Gus Malzahn I would push for the UA-stAte series and then get the win every year as a Red Wolf. Wouldn't that be nice?

I think thats what he would love to leave as his lasting impression. Malzahn is very much out to prove to a lot of people, many of them in this state, that he is a top notch college coach who can win anywhere, with anyone.

He would love nothing more then to leave ASU several years down the road with brand new facilities in place, a program that has reached the top 25 and is getting all sorts of national attention, and an every year series with Arkansas that attracks the attention of the entire state.

If he could pull that off and hand the program over to Lashlee, he'd go down as one of the greatest coaches in the history of this state. Dont for a second think he doesnt want to do that just to prove his naysayers wrong.

If that was true...why not go to Vanderbilt? That is a program that is always been hungry for a revamp. Or did he see an opportunity to go to Arkansas State as a stepping stone to a job better than Vanderbilt down the road? I think you guys are reading way too much into the Gus Bus rolling into Jonesboro. Down here in Cajun Country we know Hud is on to bigger and better things eventually. You would be wise to accept that reality now so it won't crush you emotionally.

Again, you aren't catching what we are saying.

No one is predicting that Malzahn will stay long enough at ASU to retire and get a gold watch.

But he is a different cat. NW Arkansas is home and he is home oriented. There are jobs I think he'd leave ASU for. Off-hand I'd say Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, maybe Kansas, maybe Kansas State, probably Nebraska, maybe Auburn. He isn't likely to want or accept Florida, Florida State, Clemson, Pitt, Texas Tech, Colorado jobs that are further from home and further from friends and family.

He won't be offered the chance to go to Arkansas this year, because it would further splinter the UA fan base at this time. In five years? It could be his for the taking.

(09-11-2012 02:26 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 10:38 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  Large school fans want their coaches to come from other big programs. The average fan doesn't realize the talent level of coaches at the mid-major level these days. In the SBC alone you have Malzahn, Hudspeth, Cristobal (CUSA bound), Taggert, Blakeney, and even Berry. Would Malzahn be interested in the Arkansas job?.......no doubt. I think he would be interested in Auburn or Tennessee as well if they came open. If the Auburn job did come open, I think they would be interested in Malzahn and also I think they would be very interested in Hudspeth from his roots in the state at North Alabama. But that is where perception comes in. Alabama got their coach from the Miami Dolphins and Auburn fans would want a big splash like that as well, all the while they have a stud coach that would be perfect for them at Louisiana.

I'm biased to the SBC guys and I would love all of them to want to stay at their respective schools like Chris Petersen, but I understand it is rare to find a guy like that.

Look, we could have lost Hud to Tulane already. But please quit lying to yourself that Ark is not Gus' dream job.

Y'all were convinced that Freeze wouldn't "Blindside" you last year but he did. Any reason Gus would be any more loyal to you than Freeze?

And since when does winning one game catapult Berry into these discussions? The big programs are going to look at his head coaching record both during his tenure at ulm and otherwise and pass.

You are missing the point as well.

It's not that he wouldn't like to be coach at Arkansas, it's that he WON'T BE OFFERED THE JOB THIS YEAR WHEN IT COMES OPEN.