After a week of play I have been wondering how our new schools will compete in the BIG EAST. I don't think any of the new teams will compete for the championship the first season, but I hope they all make great strides like Cincinnati has done since joining the conference. As I gaze into my crystal ball this is what I see. It will be done alphabetically.

Boise State (all time record 378-145-2)

I think Boise will be very competitive in the NBE. Next year they will experience some growing pains, but will have an experienced quarterback. I expect them to be in the hunt for their division title, and even in the conference championship game.

Central Florida (all time record 194-181-1)

I think UCF will struggle their first year in the conference. With that said, of all new teams this school scares me the most because of their potential. I think UCF will grow into one the best teams in NBE.

Houston (all time record 383-334-15)

I think Houston will settle into the conference nicely. They too will struggle the first season, but will find their niche battling SMU, and Boise yearly for their division if the NBE breaks into a west/east division setup. Of the new teams Houston was my favorite choice due to their history, and history with Cincinnati. I want Houston to succeed for their fans, and to prove that they were overlooked when the SWC died.

Memphis (all time record 438-481-33)

Memphis was added for basketball, and happens to have a football team. I hope the BIG EAST helps Memphis football the way it did Cincinnati's, but I believe Memphis will not compete for a championship in football for many years. I hope with stadium upgrades, facility upgrades, and new coach Memphis will be a solid addition to the NBE.

Navy (all time record 657-531-57)

I have heard Navy is trying to upgrade their offense for BIG EAST competition. However I think Navy will struggle in NBE play for a few seasons until they can fully adapt to the speed, and adapt to defending so many spread option pass attacks. Navy will compete eventually, and will be a major hurdle to anyone playing them.

San Diego State (all time record 492-394-32)

Moving to the NBE will help SDSU out a lot. I think it will help move them out of other programs shadows, and hopefully gain better recruits. Who would not want to play college football in San Diego? San Diego competed with Cincinnati in their one meeting, and I think the Aztecs will find their place in the NBE and be able to compete year in and year out.

Southern Methodist (all time record 462-494-54)

SMU is my favorite new team. I have been a closet SMU fan for years, and love the football program. I think SMU is a sleeping giant. I think June Jones has them on the right track, and he just needs a better conference to use to recruit with. With the NBE he has the conference he needs to get talent to SMU. SMU will get kicked around the first year, but will learn and be in contention for their division title each year.

I don't think any of the new teams will dominate the New Big East in anyway for a few years, but I think the conference will help all the new teams elevate their play quickly. Boise, Houston, UCF, and SMU I think will be the best football adds, and will compete quicker than the other schools.

Good luck to all new schools, and I can't wait to watch them compete in Nippert Stadium.

*all all time records came from cfbdatawarehouse.com

Memphis football is at a very low point right now due to years of neglect fromt he administration. The good news is as you pointed out is there is a renewed investment in the program. An "all in" type of investment and that sells a program more than anything. I have already read comments from several recruits about how they see the commitment and how important that is to them. I think we have the right people in place now and everyone seems to be pulling on the same end of the rope. There's a lot of work to be done. I don't see us getting to a point that we'd be called contenders for at least a few years but this crew will likely start making some raise their eyebrows in a relatively short time. We will get there.

Good review too and thanks for the good wishes. See you soon at Nippert or LBS, whichever comes first.

(09-07-2012 12:14 PM)True Bearcat Wrote:  Memphis (all time record 438-481-33)

Memphis was added for basketball, and happens to have a football team. I hope the BIG EAST helps Memphis football they way it did Cincinnati's, but I believe Memphis will not compete for a championship in football for many years. I hope with stadium upgrades, facility upgrades, and new coach Memphis will be a solid addition to the NBE.

We have had good football in the past and will again. The all-time record between Memphis and Cincy stands at 18-12 our favor (with UofM winning the first 11 straight). There is no logical reason why Tiger football cannot be among Big East elite within the next 4 years. Maybe we will and maybe we won't, but it is certainly possible. I think we will.

New BE schools better step up all of their investments ASAP to keep up with the Jones. BE can't afford to have teams losing to D-1AA teams and get laughed at by the national media. Schools won't get 5 years to improve. Most schools will have to get there in less than 5 years. BE has to win some major OOC games to get respect and it starts with massive investment into facilities and coaching.

(09-07-2012 12:58 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  New BE schools better step up all of their investments ASAP to keep up with the Jones. BE can't afford to have teams losing to D-1AA teams and get laughed at by the national media. Schools won't get 5 years to improve. Most schools will have to get there in less than 5 years. BE has to win some major OOC games to get respect and it starts with massive investment into facilities and coaching.

It could take 5 years with us. And we have a great new coaching staff, and have already invested massively in facilities. Now we need players. Still can't buy those, at least not legally, lol.

We were added for basketball, remember? We'll get there, but no sense in being unrealistic about the timetable.

(09-07-2012 01:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-07-2012 12:58 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  New BE schools better step up all of their investments ASAP to keep up with the Jones. BE can't afford to have teams losing to D-1AA teams and get laughed at by the national media. Schools won't get 5 years to improve. Most schools will have to get there in less than 5 years. BE has to win some major OOC games to get respect and it starts with massive investment into facilities and coaching.

It could take 5 years with us. And we have a great new coaching staff, and have already invested massively in facilities. Now we need players. Still can't buy those, at least not legally, lol.

We were added for basketball, remember? We'll get there, but no sense in being unrealistic about the timetable.

You guys are in SEC country right? You know what they say about the SEC: If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying

I think Cincinnati is my new 2nd favorite team after seeing them play last night. Wow! I just hope our team can pull this season out. We have the talent to win the CUSA. Just do it! SMU 28 - Pitt 6, Compass Bowl 2012. Come on UH, Boise and SDSU get back on track.

(09-07-2012 12:49 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(09-07-2012 12:14 PM)True Bearcat Wrote:  Memphis (all time record 438-481-33)

Memphis was added for basketball, and happens to have a football team. I hope the BIG EAST helps Memphis football they way it did Cincinnati's, but I believe Memphis will not compete for a championship in football for many years. I hope with stadium upgrades, facility upgrades, and new coach Memphis will be a solid addition to the NBE.

We have had good football in the past and will again. The all-time record between Memphis and Cincy stands at 18-12 our favor (with UofM winning the first 11 straight). There is no logical reason why Tiger football cannot be among Big East elite within the next 4 years. Maybe we will and maybe we won't, but it is certainly possible. I think we will.

I remember Memphis coming here the first few years of CUSA and beating UC like a rented mule. The Tigers just fell down, but I think they will be pick themselves back up. Memphis is in a football mad area, and now being in the BE kids who get rejected by SEC will go there and prove how good they are. UC gets spurned O$U recruits all the time that have a chip on their shoulder. I believe Isaiah Pead was one of them, and we all know how well that turned out

(09-07-2012 12:49 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(09-07-2012 12:14 PM)True Bearcat Wrote:  Memphis (all time record 438-481-33)

Memphis was added for basketball, and happens to have a football team. I hope the BIG EAST helps Memphis football they way it did Cincinnati's, but I believe Memphis will not compete for a championship in football for many years. I hope with stadium upgrades, facility upgrades, and new coach Memphis will be a solid addition to the NBE.

We have had good football in the past and will again. The all-time record between Memphis and Cincy stands at 18-12 our favor (with UofM winning the first 11 straight). There is no logical reason why Tiger football cannot be among Big East elite within the next 4 years. Maybe we will and maybe we won't, but it is certainly possible. I think we will.

Tiger Football - cliffs notes version of recent history

During the 1960's Memphis had the 9th best record in the country for the decade. During the 1970's we had some very solid football teams and placed a lot of guys in the NFL. During the 80's we were making a comeback but with the tragic plane crash that took the life of head coach Rex Dockery and three others our fortunes began to slide. Bad coaching hires, bad decisions, lies from the administration, neglect, etc...all led to a slow decline. Enter Tommy West and Tiger football saw a revival that led to multiple bowl berths. Tommy West heart attack resulted in him losing much of his drive and the program began to decline again. Porter, well, he was one of our own but was a dreadful hire and the already declining program hit rock bottom.

Fuente is picking up the pieces. It was not that long ago we were a good football team. We have history. We will be good again.

My only argument with the OP is.... Navy will never compete. It was a horrible add. I am in the Navy and nobody cares about Navy football. Its still who you really root for. I will watch the army vs Navy game but other than that.... nope. Navy has a definite ceiling, and it will never go away. You will never get elite recruits if you are Navy. Do they even have posters on this board?

Truth is we will have some bottom feeders in the conference. We will need them for other teams to beat up on. However, our bottom teams can't be worse than bottom of other BCS conferences.

Gonna be interesting. I think Memphis is the one that in 5 years will step up and bite most of us. Something about that program overachieves when They want to. Must be something our other River cities flush down the River that does that to them. Elvis Lives!

(09-07-2012 06:40 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Gonna be interesting. I think Memphis is the one that in 5 years will step up and bite most of us. Something about that program overachieves when They want to. Must be something our other River cities flush down the River that does that to them. Elvis Lives!

Whatever it takes.

Memphis won 2 games last year but still managed 39K at the opening game this year. The fan base is there. They are wanting it to be successful.

New coaching staff, new AD, new facilties, new commitment. If we don't win in the next few years, it won't be for lack of trying.

I really want to see Memphis succeed, but I don't know why. Don't have any connection to them. maybe I just like Pantone PMS 280.

(09-07-2012 12:58 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  New BE schools better step up all of their investments ASAP to keep up with the Jones. BE can't afford to have teams losing to D-1AA teams and get laughed at by the national media. Schools won't get 5 years to improve. Most schools will have to get there in less than 5 years. BE has to win some major OOC games to get respect and it starts with massive investment into facilities and coaching.

SMU will have everything in place ... great on campus FB & BB stadiums, $2 million/year for both FB & BB head coaches, etc.

Now they just have to recruit.

They'll all arrive as laughing stocks, only Boise will do well, and will steamroller their division, after a few years the bcs schools in the league will have been degraded into mid majors and will become of similar quality to the new arrivals, afterall, this is their conference, 3-4 years it'll be a competitive league similar to the Mac

The new TV deal will put us at an even worse competitive disadvantage

(09-07-2012 10:54 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  They'll all arrive as laughing stocks, only Boise will do well, and will steamroller their division, after a few years the bcs schools in the league will have been degraded into mid majors and will become of similar quality to the new arrivals, afterall, this is their conference, 3-4 years it'll be a competitive league similar to the Mac

The new TV deal will put us at an even worse competitive disadvantage

If we were all characters from Winnie-the-Pooh, you would be Eeyore.

I recommend that you keep that Suicide Hotline number with you at all times.

(09-07-2012 10:29 PM)lastchance82 Wrote:  I really want to see Memphis succeed, but I don't know why. Don't have any connection to them. maybe I just like Pantone PMS 280.

GA suck up!