(09-08-2012 09:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-07-2012 10:10 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I think at this point most Memphis fans realize where we are...Larry Porter was a disaster of a hire...now the new coach only has 65 scholarship players...and a decided lack of talent...right now the plan is let the man recruit, invest in facilities, and use the Big East name and money to grow the program back to where it was from 2003-2005...a 7-9 win football team.

39,000 showed up to watch us lose to Martin...the people WANT to support this team.

You aren't at 65. You might have 65 available because of some that are injured or red-shirting but you aren't at 65.

I know this how?

Because Memphis is FBS. The FBS rules require you award 90% of the division maximum scholarships over a two year period.

If you have 65 on scholarship and had 85 last year that averages to 75 and the minimum is 76.5 and next year if you were at 85 the average again would be 76.5 so upon entry to the Big East you would get a nice letter from the NCAA explaining that because of your failure to meet criteria in 2012-13 that you will be FCS in 2013-14 and in 2014-15.

I don't believe even the Memphis program with its spotty record of taking care of football would allow a mistake that large.

The numbers were really low because of players leaving. The low number of scholarship players is because of the number of defections over the last 2 years. If a large number of players leave over a 2 year period, it's hard to get back to 85. We've filled our maximum of 25 scholarships the last few years, but with graduations and defections, we've not been able to maintain 85. It will take another year or two to get back to 85. I think that we are actually in the low 70's now, but UofMemphis is correct in that the number being thrown around was 65....I just think that's a little low now.

Congrats to ASU on the win tonight. It was an entertaining game and very hard fought by both teams, but in the end our lack of depth couldn't keep a fresh defense on the field and we just didn't have enough in the tank to keep up with ASU's fast paced offense.

Congrats on the win, you guys played very well, deserved the "W" and good luck the rest of the season.

(09-06-2012 07:22 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  .... they had a chance to win a national championship and put things right, they blew it... quite possibly at the behest of gambling interests. ...

I'm not going to pick a fight with you on the SBC board, but nothing has been said about gambling interests by anyone with a sliver of credibility.

ASU fans, apologies for the rant and again, congrats on the win and good luck the rest of the season.....that's an impressive offense you guys put on the field.

If there are some kids redshirting, the number available could be as low as 65.

Wolo told Stoltz on the pregame show that Memphis was down in the mid sixties but since has gotten it up into the low seventies in scholarships.

I'm impressed with fresh. jd mckissic and rocky hayes...Speed,speed,speed

As for scholarships, ASU has awarded at least a half dozen walkons with scholarships, probably a few more since the spring. ASU had better athletes. We used the same 5 OL for all 97 plays except for 2 plays where our LT lost his helmet.

The great thing (in addition to the conditioning) was all the young talent and RustonCat mentioned. Hayes (FR), McKissic (RSFR), Giddens (FR), Knighten (FR), Griswold (RSFR), Humes (FR), Tryon (SO) and Jackson (SO) were all big contributors. ASU will have a solid team next year.

(09-09-2012 09:41 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  As for scholarships, ASU has awarded at least a half dozen walkons with scholarships, probably a few more since the spring. ASU had better athletes. We used the same 5 OL for all 97 plays except for 2 plays where our LT lost his helmet.

The great thing (in addition to the conditioning) was all the young talent and RustonCat mentioned. Hayes (FR), McKissic (RSFR), Giddens (FR), Knighten (FR), Griswold (RSFR), Humes (FR), Tryon (SO) and Jackson (SO) were all big contributors. ASU will have a solid team next year.

Good post. Also add Chris stone who played De all night it seemed

The difference in depth was apparent in the second half.

(09-09-2012 11:12 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  

(09-09-2012 09:41 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  As for scholarships, ASU has awarded at least a half dozen walkons with scholarships, probably a few more since the spring. ASU had better athletes. We used the same 5 OL for all 97 plays except for 2 plays where our LT lost his helmet.

The great thing (in addition to the conditioning) was all the young talent and RustonCat mentioned. Hayes (FR), McKissic (RSFR), Giddens (FR), Knighten (FR), Griswold (RSFR), Humes (FR), Tryon (SO) and Jackson (SO) were all big contributors. ASU will have a solid team next year.

Good post. Also add Chris stone who played De all night it seemed

Good point. Another first year guy.

(09-10-2012 09:18 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  The difference in depth was apparent in the second half.

Difference in conditioning, yes. When you take out players that were originally walkons, injured and suspended players and players that are redshirting you are left with only 50 players for stAte and several of those do not really play. We played 5 OL except for 2 plays and we played 3 DEs.

Memphis fans tried to use scholarship numbers as an excuse but we are down to 72 guys who signed with ASU to receive a sholarship.

When the injured guys return we will be a force on offense with the pace and conditioning.

(09-07-2012 07:25 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  

(09-07-2012 06:49 PM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  

(09-07-2012 11:40 AM)gata_dawg Wrote:  

So you think it's ok to -talk a guy not because of his views or comments, but simply because he is a Memphis fan? Your logic makes no sense in response to Paul's comment, and sounds like a hater sucking on a jeally-sickle.

Yes I do. Also, I don't care what your opinion is. Pizz off.

What a tech **** hole... nice job blue dude.

Z

Hey, guy....you need to chill the **** out. You don't know me, and your hate for LT clouds your judgement.

My grandfather played quarterback at USL before he spent 20 years coaching at LaTech. I used to manage Olde Tyme Grocery and have fed the football team (as well as Troy) countless times. Despite your small-minded contempt, there are Tech fans that wish ULL well.

(09-10-2012 01:05 PM)gata_dawg Wrote:  

(09-07-2012 07:25 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  

(09-07-2012 06:49 PM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  

(09-07-2012 11:40 AM)gata_dawg Wrote:  

So you think it's ok to -talk a guy not because of his views or comments, but simply because he is a Memphis fan? Your logic makes no sense in response to Paul's comment, and sounds like a hater sucking on a jeally-sickle.

Yes I do. Also, I don't care what your opinion is. Pizz off.

What a tech **** hole... nice job blue dude.

Z

Hey, guy....you need to chill the **** out. You don't know me, and your hate for LT clouds your judgement.

My grandfather played quarterback at USL before he spent 20 years coaching at LaTech. I used to manage Olde Tyme Grocery and have fed the football team (as well as Troy) countless times. Despite your small-minded contempt, there are Tech fans that wish ULL well.

gata_dog, thanks for your initial response and your last response merely demonstrates that being mostly civil and respectful wins in the end more times than not. However, being civil and respectful doesn't win instant cred on a message board with the cool kids.