Top 10 list: The Breakout Coaches of 2012

2. Charlie Strong, Louisville: This is Year 3 for the former Urban Meyer assistant at Louisville and it's an interesting time since his program plays in a league that has been shoved into the margins of the sport by college football's power brokers. Strong's young team also is the favorite to win the Big East. Ranked No. 25, this is the first time U of L has been ranked in the preseason since 2007. Could the Cards be primed for a 10-win season? Sophomore Teddy Bridgewater has bulked up and looks like the league's top QB while most of the D returns. The schedule isn't daunting, either: A trip to FIU of the Sun Belt or a visit from UNC may be the toughest games. In conference, they have to visit Pitt and Rutgers. If Strong can keep the Cards in the Top 25, the Arkansas native might just be in line for the Hogs' vacancy or some other spot in a conference with better footing.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...es-of-2012

So, is Louisville the ONLY team in the BE with this problem? No. All the BE FB teams get bashed on a regular basis for being in this conference now.

The new TV contract can go a long way toward shutting up stupid crap like that, assuming it's close to ACC money, at least. Then we can work on the BCS and bowl issues with more leverage.

It will continue to be a problem for schools that in the league like Cincinnati, South Florida, Rutgers & Louisville.

It was a problem before but a much bigger one now.

(08-28-2012 08:35 PM)Maize Wrote:  It will continue to be a problem for schools that in the league like Cincinnati, South Florida, Rutgers & Louisville.

It was a problem before but a much bigger one now.

And unfortunately wouldnt change even if our schools went into Big12 or ACC. The Texas and other bigger names would still have a bigger name and money to offer

(08-28-2012 08:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:35 PM)Maize Wrote:  It will continue to be a problem for schools that in the league like Cincinnati, South Florida, Rutgers & Louisville.

It was a problem before but a much bigger one now.

And unfortunately wouldnt change even if our schools went into Big12 or ACC. The Texas and other bigger names would still have a bigger name and money to offer

But until the BIG EAST Brand is stabilized it will be a bigger issue. Right now whether we like it or not it is not stable @ this time.

At least until 2010 unless you were a Florida, Alabama, Notre Dame or the NFL we @ least had a solid chance of keeping our coaches. Now we are subject to get pick off by schools like South Carolina, Arkansas or even a UNC.

(08-28-2012 08:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:35 PM)Maize Wrote:  It will continue to be a problem for schools that in the league like Cincinnati, South Florida, Rutgers & Louisville.

It was a problem before but a much bigger one now.

And unfortunately wouldnt change even if our schools went into Big12 or ACC. The Texas and other bigger names would still have a bigger name and money to offer

Money is not the problem for Louisville, far from it.

(08-28-2012 08:35 PM)Maize Wrote:  It will continue to be a problem for schools that in the league like Cincinnati, South Florida, Rutgers & Louisville.

It was a problem before but a much bigger one now.

Three of those 4 came from C-USA, just like we did, and UConn moved up not so long ago. All of us have been fighting this battle for a long time. It's not restricted to the teams who got here a little earlier. SMU and UH have fought this battle since the SWC folded, too.

(08-28-2012 08:40 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:35 PM)Maize Wrote:  It will continue to be a problem for schools that in the league like Cincinnati, South Florida, Rutgers & Louisville.

It was a problem before but a much bigger one now.

And unfortunately wouldnt change even if our schools went into Big12 or ACC. The Texas and other bigger names would still have a bigger name and money to offer

But until the BIG EAST Brand is stabilized it will be a bigger issue. Right now whether we like it or not it is not stable @ this time.

At least until 2010 unless you were a Florida, Alabama, Notre Dame or the NFL we @ least had a solid chance of keeping our coaches. Now we are subject to get pick off by schools like South Carolina, Arkansas or even a UNC.

I think you are fooling yourself if you think your coach wouldnt look at those three you mentioned before 2010.

(08-28-2012 08:42 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:35 PM)Maize Wrote:  It will continue to be a problem for schools that in the league like Cincinnati, South Florida, Rutgers & Louisville.

It was a problem before but a much bigger one now.

And unfortunately wouldnt change even if our schools went into Big12 or ACC. The Texas and other bigger names would still have a bigger name and money to offer

Money is not the problem for Louisville, far from it.

Whats Strongs salary? Yes UL might be able to offer a good salary but the reality is that except for Vandy, the mississippi schools and Kentuky the SEC schools can atch or surpass the mony UL can offer and would be in football terms attractive to your coach

(08-28-2012 08:40 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:35 PM)Maize Wrote:  It will continue to be a problem for schools that in the league like Cincinnati, South Florida, Rutgers & Louisville.

It was a problem before but a much bigger one now.

And unfortunately wouldnt change even if our schools went into Big12 or ACC. The Texas and other bigger names would still have a bigger name and money to offer

But until the BIG EAST Brand is stabilized it will be a bigger issue. Right now whether we like it or not it is not stable @ this time.

At least until 2010 unless you were a Florida, Alabama, Notre Dame or the NFL we @ least had a solid chance of keeping our coaches. Now we are subject to get pick off by schools like South Carolina, Arkansas or even a UNC.

And before 2005, you were in the same position for your entire existence. Not trying to be argumentative, but there aren't two classes of schools in this conference, just b/c some of you got here 7 or 8 years earlier, and just b/c your budget is bigger. Nobody in this conference is a national draw in FB, except maybe Boise, and they were a junior college a few decades ago.

If you guys had done in the past 10 years what Boise has done, you wouldn't be here now. And I'm not trying to piss anybody off, or make enemies. It's just the way it is.

(08-28-2012 08:43 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:40 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:35 PM)Maize Wrote:  It will continue to be a problem for schools that in the league like Cincinnati, South Florida, Rutgers & Louisville.

It was a problem before but a much bigger one now.

And unfortunately wouldnt change even if our schools went into Big12 or ACC. The Texas and other bigger names would still have a bigger name and money to offer

But until the BIG EAST Brand is stabilized it will be a bigger issue. Right now whether we like it or not it is not stable @ this time.

At least until 2010 unless you were a Florida, Alabama, Notre Dame or the NFL we @ least had a solid chance of keeping our coaches. Now we are subject to get pick off by schools like South Carolina, Arkansas or even a UNC.

I think you are fooling yourself if you think your coach wouldnt look at those three you mentioned before 2010.

He will not leave for the money because we can pay what they will offer, you have no idea what Louisville can pay. He will leave because we are in the Big East.

(08-28-2012 08:53 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:43 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:40 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:35 PM)Maize Wrote:  It will continue to be a problem for schools that in the league like Cincinnati, South Florida, Rutgers & Louisville.

It was a problem before but a much bigger one now.

And unfortunately wouldnt change even if our schools went into Big12 or ACC. The Texas and other bigger names would still have a bigger name and money to offer

But until the BIG EAST Brand is stabilized it will be a bigger issue. Right now whether we like it or not it is not stable @ this time.

At least until 2010 unless you were a Florida, Alabama, Notre Dame or the NFL we @ least had a solid chance of keeping our coaches. Now we are subject to get pick off by schools like South Carolina, Arkansas or even a UNC.

I think you are fooling yourself if you think your coach wouldnt look at those three you mentioned before 2010.

He will not leave for the money because we can pay what they will offer. He will leave because we are in the Big East.

Strong is being paid 2.3 mill according to USA today. Petrino was making 3.5 mill at Arkansas. And he would leave because UL is NOT a big football brand not just because its in the Big East but because it has no history of being a national power

Louisville, Rutgers, etc are always going to lose elite coaches to Texas, USC, Florida, and others. However, being in the Big 12 vs. the Big East could be the difference in staving off vultures like UCLA, Ole Miss, etc.

(08-28-2012 08:56 PM)uconnbaseball Wrote:  Louisville, Rutgers, etc are always going to lose elite coaches to Texas, USC, Florida, and others. However, being in the Big 12 vs. the Big East could be the difference in staving off vultures like UCLA, Ole Miss, etc.

Not neceseraly. You really think that UCLA coudnt take Baylor, Iowa State, KState hell even Okie State could be raided. The Big12 is not a magic bullet. Face it none of the Big East schools have a reputation or tradition as being a power house

(08-28-2012 08:46 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:42 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:35 PM)Maize Wrote:  It will continue to be a problem for schools that in the league like Cincinnati, South Florida, Rutgers & Louisville.

It was a problem before but a much bigger one now.

And unfortunately wouldnt change even if our schools went into Big12 or ACC. The Texas and other bigger names would still have a bigger name and money to offer

Money is not the problem for Louisville, far from it.

Whats Strongs salary? Yes UL might be able to offer a good salary but the reality is that except for Vandy, the mississippi schools and Kentuky the SEC schools can atch or surpass the mony UL can offer and would be in football terms attractive to your coach

Cuban...they could match it and right now Charlie makes around $2.3 Million...you forget, the Basketball Program alone would be in the Top 25 in Revenue if it was Football.

Revenue is not really an issue here with the Sports/Yum Brands/John Schnattner etc. etc.

(08-28-2012 09:01 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:46 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:42 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:35 PM)Maize Wrote:  It will continue to be a problem for schools that in the league like Cincinnati, South Florida, Rutgers & Louisville.

It was a problem before but a much bigger one now.

And unfortunately wouldnt change even if our schools went into Big12 or ACC. The Texas and other bigger names would still have a bigger name and money to offer

Money is not the problem for Louisville, far from it.

Whats Strongs salary? Yes UL might be able to offer a good salary but the reality is that except for Vandy, the mississippi schools and Kentuky the SEC schools can atch or surpass the mony UL can offer and would be in football terms attractive to your coach

Cuban...they could match it and right now Charlie makes around $2 Million...you forget, the Basketball Program alone would be in the Top 25 in Revenue if it was Football.

Maize even if they matched the money the reality is that Louisville is not a football powerhouse

(08-28-2012 08:55 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:53 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:43 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:40 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  And unfortunately wouldnt change even if our schools went into Big12 or ACC. The Texas and other bigger names would still have a bigger name and money to offer

But until the BIG EAST Brand is stabilized it will be a bigger issue. Right now whether we like it or not it is not stable @ this time.

At least until 2010 unless you were a Florida, Alabama, Notre Dame or the NFL we @ least had a solid chance of keeping our coaches. Now we are subject to get pick off by schools like South Carolina, Arkansas or even a UNC.

I think you are fooling yourself if you think your coach wouldnt look at those three you mentioned before 2010.

He will not leave for the money because we can pay what they will offer. He will leave because we are in the Big East.

Strong is being paid 2.3 mill according to USA today. Petrino was making 3.5 mill at Arkansas. And he would leave because UL is NOT a big football brand not just because its in the Big East but because it has no history of being a national power

Yes, that is correct. But your facts are BS. Bobby Petrino left Louisville to Coach the Atlanta Falcons not the Hogs! Right now Louisville is the only school to offer Strong ahead coaching job. So his current salary is the most money he has ever been paid. We can afford to raise it, if another offer comes. So get over it.

(08-28-2012 09:02 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 09:01 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:46 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:42 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  And unfortunately wouldnt change even if our schools went into Big12 or ACC. The Texas and other bigger names would still have a bigger name and money to offer

Money is not the problem for Louisville, far from it.

Whats Strongs salary? Yes UL might be able to offer a good salary but the reality is that except for Vandy, the mississippi schools and Kentuky the SEC schools can atch or surpass the mony UL can offer and would be in football terms attractive to your coach

Cuban...they could match it and right now Charlie makes around $2 Million...you forget, the Basketball Program alone would be in the Top 25 in Revenue if it was Football.

Maize even if they matched the money the reality is that Louisville is not a football powerhouse

Neither is anyone else in the Big East!

All im saying is that Petrino was being paid 3.5 mill thts what Arkansas can offer. Arkansas has a bigger tradition as a football powerhouse than Louisville. You may not like to hear it but they are not even positions for a cach tat wants to move up in rans.

(08-28-2012 09:04 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 09:02 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 09:01 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:46 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-28-2012 08:42 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Money is not the problem for Louisville, far from it.

Whats Strongs salary? Yes UL might be able to offer a good salary but the reality is that except for Vandy, the mississippi schools and Kentuky the SEC schools can atch or surpass the mony UL can offer and would be in football terms attractive to your coach

Cuban...they could match it and right now Charlie makes around $2 Million...you forget, the Basketball Program alone would be in the Top 25 in Revenue if it was Football.

Maize even if they matched the money the reality is that Louisville is not a football powerhouse

Neither is anyone else in the Big East!

Completly agree