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RE: expansion question
By the way wouldn't the additions of ND and Navy create a North / South conference anyway? So relax...

By the way, I still want to know who would be an acceptable "southern" addition to the ACC?
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(08-30-2012 01:33 PM)7fielder Wrote:  By the way wouldn't the additions of ND and Navy create a North / South conference anyway? So relax...

By the way, I still want to know who would be an acceptable "southern" addition to the ACC?

UCF.
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(08-30-2012 01:37 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 01:33 PM)7fielder Wrote:  By the way wouldn't the additions of ND and Navy create a North / South conference anyway? So relax...

By the way, I still want to know who would be an acceptable "southern" addition to the ACC?

UCF.

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(08-30-2012 01:38 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 01:37 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 01:33 PM)7fielder Wrote:  By the way wouldn't the additions of ND and Navy create a North / South conference anyway? So relax...

By the way, I still want to know who would be an acceptable "southern" addition to the ACC?

UCF.

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Well, FSU can't beat USF.
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(08-30-2012 01:33 PM)7fielder Wrote:  By the way wouldn't the additions of ND and Navy create a North / South conference anyway? So relax...

By the way, I still want to know who would be an acceptable "southern" addition to the ACC?

I didn't say they had to be Southern. I said no more crap Northern teams. I wasn't saying all teams from the North suck.

West Virginia should have been added instead of Syracuse to start with.

I know Navy/ND won't happen, but people are discussing it. And it shows the mindset of the conference when posters act like simply adding ND to the Coastal and Navy to the Atlantic would be perfectly fine.

I already said that N/S with Miami in the North should be the divisions. If ND and anyone else were added, I wouldn't care if the 2nd team were placed in the Atlantic as long as we got GT back. So I would be ok with Miami in the Coastal with ND as long as we got GT back and got Louisville for example instead of BC.
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(08-30-2012 01:40 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 01:38 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 01:37 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 01:33 PM)7fielder Wrote:  By the way wouldn't the additions of ND and Navy create a North / South conference anyway? So relax...

By the way, I still want to know who would be an acceptable "southern" addition to the ACC?

UCF.

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Well, FSU can't beat USF.

That's like saying Pitt can't beat Navy....
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(08-30-2012 01:43 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 01:33 PM)7fielder Wrote:  By the way wouldn't the additions of ND and Navy create a North / South conference anyway? So relax...

By the way, I still want to know who would be an acceptable "southern" addition to the ACC?

I didn't say they had to be Southern. I said no more crap Northern teams. I wasn't saying all teams from the North suck.

West Virginia should have been added instead of Syracuse to start with.

I know Navy/ND won't happen, but people are discussing it. And it shows the mindset of the conference when posters act like simply adding ND to the Coastal and Navy to the Atlantic would be perfectly fine.

I already said that N/S with Miami in the North should be the divisions. If ND and anyone else were added, I wouldn't care if the 2nd team were placed in the Atlantic as long as we got GT back. So I would be ok with Miami in the Coastal with ND as long as we got GT back and got Louisville for example instead of BC.

Pitt has more National Championships than all of the ACC combined. Are they a sucky Northern team?
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I know FSU fans want GT back in their division...

As the new kids in town I wouldn't even care if we swapped MD for GT. Not that I don't look forward to palying GT, but I do think MD is a natural rival with Pittsburgh.
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Ragu,

Many on here agree with you but the powers that be have made their decisions. You should move on with life and drop the complaining.

Just a reminder that Syracuse beat Wake, a team FSU has had issues with as of late.
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Wake was running that game until their qb went down.
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(08-30-2012 01:48 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 01:43 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 01:33 PM)7fielder Wrote:  By the way wouldn't the additions of ND and Navy create a North / South conference anyway? So relax...

By the way, I still want to know who would be an acceptable "southern" addition to the ACC?

I didn't say they had to be Southern. I said no more crap Northern teams. I wasn't saying all teams from the North suck.

West Virginia should have been added instead of Syracuse to start with.

I know Navy/ND won't happen, but people are discussing it. And it shows the mindset of the conference when posters act like simply adding ND to the Coastal and Navy to the Atlantic would be perfectly fine.

I already said that N/S with Miami in the North should be the divisions. If ND and anyone else were added, I wouldn't care if the 2nd team were placed in the Atlantic as long as we got GT back. So I would be ok with Miami in the Coastal with ND as long as we got GT back and got Louisville for example instead of BC.

Pitt has more National Championships than all of the ACC combined. Are they a sucky Northern team?


We have been through this before. You guys "claim" 9 titles. 8 of them are from 1937 or before when teams like Princeton, Yale and Harvard were powerful football schools. And those really old time titles are claimed based off like 150 rating systems. Pitt counted every title where at least 1 of those deemed them champions. The other one was way back in 1976.

Hey Princeton claims 22! Harvard claims 9! Yale claims a whopping 27! Maybe the ACC should dip into the Ivy League for powerful football additions.

The past doesn't matter in terms of an addition. The ACC gets nothing for the past success and past "claimed" success. But even now, no I don't think Pitt is a terrible football school. I think Pitt/WVU should have been the additions.
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(08-30-2012 01:48 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 01:43 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 01:33 PM)7fielder Wrote:  By the way wouldn't the additions of ND and Navy create a North / South conference anyway? So relax...

By the way, I still want to know who would be an acceptable "southern" addition to the ACC?

I didn't say they had to be Southern. I said no more crap Northern teams. I wasn't saying all teams from the North suck.

West Virginia should have been added instead of Syracuse to start with.

I know Navy/ND won't happen, but people are discussing it. And it shows the mindset of the conference when posters act like simply adding ND to the Coastal and Navy to the Atlantic would be perfectly fine.

I already said that N/S with Miami in the North should be the divisions. If ND and anyone else were added, I wouldn't care if the 2nd team were placed in the Atlantic as long as we got GT back. So I would be ok with Miami in the Coastal with ND as long as we got GT back and got Louisville for example instead of BC.

Pitt has more National Championships than all of the ACC combined. Are they a sucky Northern team?

With all do respect as a fellow Pitt fan... I don't like to go there.
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(08-30-2012 01:57 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 01:48 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 01:43 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(08-30-2012 01:33 PM)7fielder Wrote:  By the way wouldn't the additions of ND and Navy create a North / South conference anyway? So relax...

By the way, I still want to know who would be an acceptable "southern" addition to the ACC?

I didn't say they had to be Southern. I said no more crap Northern teams. I wasn't saying all teams from the North suck.

West Virginia should have been added instead of Syracuse to start with.

I know Navy/ND won't happen, but people are discussing it. And it shows the mindset of the conference when posters act like simply adding ND to the Coastal and Navy to the Atlantic would be perfectly fine.

I already said that N/S with Miami in the North should be the divisions. If ND and anyone else were added, I wouldn't care if the 2nd team were placed in the Atlantic as long as we got GT back. So I would be ok with Miami in the Coastal with ND as long as we got GT back and got Louisville for example instead of BC.

Pitt has more National Championships than all of the ACC combined. Are they a sucky Northern team?


We have been through this before. You guys "claim" 9 titles. 8 of them are from 1937 or before when teams like Princeton, Yale and Harvard were powerful football schools. And those really old time titles are claimed based off like 150 rating systems. Pitt counted every title where at least 1 of those deemed them champions. The other one was way back in 1976.

Hey Princeton claims 22! Harvard claims 9! Yale claims a whopping 27! Maybe the ACC should dip into the Ivy League for powerful football additions.

The past doesn't matter in terms of an addition. The ACC gets nothing for the past success and past "claimed" success. But even now, no I don't think Pitt is a terrible football school. I think Pitt/WVU should have been the additions.

Here's the thing about Pitt, they struggled after they joined the BE. I think the ACC can only help them get back to being a National Power.
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I don't think the ACC would help them with that. The program itself are the ones that are going to do that if it ever happens (and they haven't been a power in a long time).

But seriously stop with the claimed titles and such. I already showed you multiple times how ridiculous it is to brag about that. There are so many years with 6 teams claiming titles and there are like 18 rating systems that these teams count. Plus the archaic times have many powers that have fallen off the map completely.
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I bet the ACC would take Princeton, Harvard or Yale in a heartbeat. Of course they would have to up grade to the BCS level.
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You are probably right. Would be a probable add. But them bragging about being powers based off titles from before women could vote would be just as hilarious.
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(08-30-2012 01:49 PM)HtownOrange Wrote:  Ragu,

Many on here agree with you but the powers that be have made their decisions. You should move on with life and drop the complaining.

Just a reminder that Syracuse beat Wake, a team FSU has had issues with as of late.

I think Syracuse will do fine in this league. But Wake was running away with that game until the starting quarterback went down.
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(08-30-2012 12:17 PM)HtownOrange Wrote:  So let's recap:

Ragu whines that adding ND would be too much for FSU.
Ragu wants GT back in their division.
Ragu states Kansas, Iowa state and KSU are better than most ACC teams
Ragu whines Syracuse doesn't play football (obviously he ignores the fact that Syracuse beat Kansas State in a bowl game two seasons ago)
Ragu wants to play in the "tougher" Big 12 because FSU should play with champions (ignoring the fact that FSU hasn't won the ACC in many years)
Ragu says the ACC is cupcakes, but FSU loses to these same "cupcakes"
Ragu states FSU recruited as an indy (ignoring the fact that was more than 20 years ago)
Ragu acts as if the ACC wants Navy alone (Navy has ONLY been mentioned as a tag-along for ND)
Ragu wants a chunk of the ACC to go with them to the Big 12.
Ragu ignores the fact that these schools have no desire to be a lapdog for Texas. (See OU, TTech, Baylor, OSU, ISU, KSU, KU, TCU, WVU)

Does anyone else see any inconsistencies in Ragu's positions?

We know Ragu hates the ACC. We understand and accept his position.
we Know the SEC is not taking FSU anytime soon. 'nuff said
We know FSU does not want to be with Texas and the instability compared to the ACC. If we cannot trust the actions taken by leadership, what can we trust?
We know other ACC schools are NOT interested in the Big 12. So says Clemson, GT, Miami, VATech, et. al.

It looks like Ragu should be complaining to FSU and the administration there rather than ACC fans. Trying to convince us that FSU has one foot out the door is simply not working.

Nominated.
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^Except he made most of it up. I already sorted it out in my response post. A lot of that was crap that he just made up or took out of context. The only accurate points were me wanting GT in the division or saying FSU recruited well even as an independent. The rest is made up to say the least.
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I've had enough of this thread with all of the foul language. Ragu, You bring these attacks on yourself. You guys can finish this juvenile smack over on the Smack board.
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