http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/co...-1.3927384

Great article. Maybe the thread title can be more specific. This is a good read that folks are missing.

Excerpts:

If the Big Ten can continue to market its logo with 12 members, and the Big 12 can go forward with 10 members, why can't the Big East brand survive as the Big East/Central/Mountain/Pacific Time Zone Conference when bicoastal expansion arrives in 2013?

...geography and tradition hardly matter. What matters is the football product and inventory of games conferences can offer at the TV bargaining table, and the Big East will have all four time zones covered...

...league officials believe they will prosper by spreading the product across multiple "media entities," possibly including the new NBC Sports Network, in an effort to equal or surpass the recently upgraded ACC deal worth $17.1 million annually to member schools...

...the Big East hopes to still have a seat at the table with the football powers, but that requires a re-branding job...Carparelli said. "If you look at the record of the teams that are going to be in our conference in the future, you'll see it stacks up very well in terms of where teams have been ranked."

More encouraging stuff in there. Good quotes from Aresco, Carparelli, the Rutgers FB HC, Bailey, etc.

This quote really ticked me off:

Quote:In football, the Big East has been regarded as the weakest of the six BCS conferences behind the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and ACC. Some thought it might not survive conference realignment with West Virginia joining the Big 12 this season and Pitt and Syracuse heading to the ACC in 2013.

I look forward to seeing the conference get a HUGE television contract and access to the playoff and some lucrative bowls. Maybe then we'll stop seeing ignorant quotes like the one above.

(08-25-2012 08:40 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Great article. Maybe the thread title can be more specific. This is a good read that folks are missing.

Excerpts:

If the Big Ten can continue to market its logo with 12 members, and the Big 12 can go forward with 10 members, why can't the Big East brand survive as the Big East/Central/Mountain/Pacific Time Zone Conference when bicoastal expansion arrives in 2013?

...geography and tradition hardly matter. What matters is the football product and inventory of games conferences can offer at the TV bargaining table, and the Big East will have all four time zones covered...

...league officials believe they will prosper by spreading the product across multiple "media entities," possibly including the new NBC Sports Network, in an effort to equal or surpass the recently upgraded ACC deal worth $17.1 million annually to member schools...

...the Big East hopes to still have a seat at the table with the football powers, but that requires a re-branding job...Carparelli said. "If you look at the record of the teams that are going to be in our conference in the future, you'll see it stacks up very well in terms of where teams have been ranked."

More encouraging stuff in there. Good quotes from Aresco, Carparelli, the Rutgers FB HC, Bailey, etc.

Good read - I like it... I'm still curious to know how espn is going to behave itself through out it's tv negotioations window with the Big East. I think espn needs to be place on a very short leash through out this negotiation process. Just say'n.

You have to remember the Big East cannot afford to burn any bridges that it might have to recross! Just sayin'

It will be interesting to see if the ESPN tv people continue to bad mouth the Big East during the tv negotiations. I think they will in an attempt to minimize the value of the product. I hope NBC Sports comes in with a favorable offer that tops ESPN's offer and also tops or comes close to the contract executed by the ACC.

(08-25-2012 08:53 PM)TOGC Wrote:  This quote really ticked me off:

Quote:In football, the Big East has been regarded as the weakest of the six BCS conferences behind the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and ACC. Some thought it might not survive conference realignment with West Virginia joining the Big 12 this season and Pitt and Syracuse heading to the ACC in 2013.

I look forward to seeing the conference get a HUGE television contract and access to the playoff and some lucrative bowls. Maybe then we'll stop seeing ignorant quotes like the one above.

What was inaccurate about that statement? It is true. It said "regarded." It didn't say "actually." They are talking about national perception, not reality.

And they did a nice job of countering that perception throughout the story.

(08-25-2012 09:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 08:53 PM)TOGC Wrote:  This quote really ticked me off:

Quote:In football, the Big East has been regarded as the weakest of the six BCS conferences behind the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and ACC. Some thought it might not survive conference realignment with West Virginia joining the Big 12 this season and Pitt and Syracuse heading to the ACC in 2013.

I look forward to seeing the conference get a HUGE television contract and access to the playoff and some lucrative bowls. Maybe then we'll stop seeing ignorant quotes like the one above.

What was inaccurate about that statement? It is true. It said "regarded." It didn't say "actually." They are talking about national perception, not reality.

And they did a nice job of countering that perception throughout the story.

Well, it has been "regarded" that ESPN has been intentionally badmouthing the Big East in order to get more favorable terms with the upcoming television negotiation but they didn't report that tidbit.

(08-25-2012 09:55 PM)TOGC Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 09:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 08:53 PM)TOGC Wrote:  This quote really ticked me off:

Quote:In football, the Big East has been regarded as the weakest of the six BCS conferences behind the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and ACC. Some thought it might not survive conference realignment with West Virginia joining the Big 12 this season and Pitt and Syracuse heading to the ACC in 2013.

I look forward to seeing the conference get a HUGE television contract and access to the playoff and some lucrative bowls. Maybe then we'll stop seeing ignorant quotes like the one above.

What was inaccurate about that statement? It is true. It said "regarded." It didn't say "actually." They are talking about national perception, not reality.

And they did a nice job of countering that perception throughout the story.

Well, it has been "regarded" that ESPN has been intentionally badmouthing the Big East in order to get more favorable terms with the upcoming television negotiation but they didn't report that tidbit.

Meh, quit looking for things to be mad about. It was a good article.

(08-25-2012 10:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 09:55 PM)TOGC Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 09:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 08:53 PM)TOGC Wrote:  This quote really ticked me off:

Quote:In football, the Big East has been regarded as the weakest of the six BCS conferences behind the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and ACC. Some thought it might not survive conference realignment with West Virginia joining the Big 12 this season and Pitt and Syracuse heading to the ACC in 2013.

I look forward to seeing the conference get a HUGE television contract and access to the playoff and some lucrative bowls. Maybe then we'll stop seeing ignorant quotes like the one above.

What was inaccurate about that statement? It is true. It said "regarded." It didn't say "actually." They are talking about national perception, not reality.

And they did a nice job of countering that perception throughout the story.

Well, it has been "regarded" that ESPN has been intentionally badmouthing the Big East in order to get more favorable terms with the upcoming television negotiation but they didn't report that tidbit.

Meh, quit looking for things to be mad about. It was a good article.

There was nothing original in it that hasn't already been said on the message boards over the last month.

(08-25-2012 10:13 PM)TOGC Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 10:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 09:55 PM)TOGC Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 09:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 08:53 PM)TOGC Wrote:  This quote really ticked me off:


I look forward to seeing the conference get a HUGE television contract and access to the playoff and some lucrative bowls. Maybe then we'll stop seeing ignorant quotes like the one above.

What was inaccurate about that statement? It is true. It said "regarded." It didn't say "actually." They are talking about national perception, not reality.

And they did a nice job of countering that perception throughout the story.

Well, it has been "regarded" that ESPN has been intentionally badmouthing the Big East in order to get more favorable terms with the upcoming television negotiation but they didn't report that tidbit.

Meh, quit looking for things to be mad about. It was a good article.

There was nothing original in it that hasn't already been said on the message boards over the last month.

Blah, blah blah...the tone was good, and it didn't trash the BE, and made it seem possible that we could reach all our goals. Those reads are rare.

And what, you don't want to read anything unless it has new info in it? There's not that much new to say, 3 months from the end date, likely. Hell, Aresco's interviews all sound alike, but they are still refreshing.

Try not to be a grinch for an hour or two. You might like it. Your nose is getting all scrunched up.

(08-25-2012 10:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 10:13 PM)TOGC Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 10:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 09:55 PM)TOGC Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 09:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:  What was inaccurate about that statement? It is true. It said "regarded." It didn't say "actually." They are talking about national perception, not reality.

And they did a nice job of countering that perception throughout the story.

Well, it has been "regarded" that ESPN has been intentionally badmouthing the Big East in order to get more favorable terms with the upcoming television negotiation but they didn't report that tidbit.

Meh, quit looking for things to be mad about. It was a good article.

There was nothing original in it that hasn't already been said on the message boards over the last month.

Blah, blah blah...the tone was good, and it didn't trash the BE, and made it seem possible that we could reach all our goals. Those reads are rare.

And what, you don't want to read anything unless it has new info in it? There's not that much new to say, 3 months from the end date, likely. Hell, Aresco's interviews all sound alike, but they are still refreshing.

Try not to be a grinch for an hour or two. You might like it. Your nose is getting all scrunched up.

It is good to get some good press regardless if it is the same info rehashed 50 times. We listened to all of Aresco interviews. They are done at different markets for a reason. He is educating the casual fans in those markets. People like us are like super fans who go out of our ways to seek out BE info.

Take ESPiN for example, they would repeat ACC is a major conference despite all stats say otherwise. They will keep saying it because they want to create mass confusion for average fans. They are using media to help the ACC even though ACC is nowhere as good as they claim.

(08-26-2012 12:39 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 10:56 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 10:13 PM)TOGC Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 10:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-25-2012 09:55 PM)TOGC Wrote:  Well, it has been "regarded" that ESPN has been intentionally badmouthing the Big East in order to get more favorable terms with the upcoming television negotiation but they didn't report that tidbit.

Meh, quit looking for things to be mad about. It was a good article.

There was nothing original in it that hasn't already been said on the message boards over the last month.

Blah, blah blah...the tone was good, and it didn't trash the BE, and made it seem possible that we could reach all our goals. Those reads are rare.

And what, you don't want to read anything unless it has new info in it? There's not that much new to say, 3 months from the end date, likely. Hell, Aresco's interviews all sound alike, but they are still refreshing.

Try not to be a grinch for an hour or two. You might like it. Your nose is getting all scrunched up.

It is good to get some good press regardless if it is the same info rehashed 50 times. We listened to all of Aresco interviews. They are done at different markets for a reason. He is educating the casual fans in those markets. People like us are like super fans who go out of our ways to seek out BE info.

Take ESPiN for example, they would repeat ACC is a major conference despite all stats say otherwise. They will keep saying it because they want to create mass confusion for average fans. They are using media to help the ACC even though ACC is nowhere as good as they claim.

Good point.

In another thread...one Big East poster was somewhat upset that Aresco game a similar interview on another market's radio station on the West Coast as he had done with one radio station on the East Coast.

I don't care if Aresco says the same thing...he is reaching into new markets and new fan bases with each and every interview.