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(08-16-2012 09:42 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  Would be nice to hear her speak out and get the truth out there about Jimbo Fisher, the stadium fiasco, etc.

Nah. To quote "the Man Who Shot Liberty Valance' "when the legend becomes fact, print the legend.".

For Garrison to tell those stories would ruin some great legends.

(08-16-2012 09:35 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(08-16-2012 08:34 PM)Uncle BLAZER Wrote:  

(08-16-2012 08:11 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Somebody retires and suddenly its the end of the world. Get a grip, people.

Who has lost their grip? I think the comments so far have been pretty tame and normal reactions for this crowd. You know there is most likely much more to the story than her just retiring. I think you just get off on making comments like you are somehow much more level headed and enlightened than other people.
This is a pretty big topic of discussion. People can vent and say whatever they want without losing their grip. Again, I don't see where anyone has. Nobody is slitting their wrists over it. But the comments made are all in the realm of reality considering past events.

She is one of the longest serving presidents ever. There is no indication that it is anything more than a retirement. This thread does not represent that.

You don't retire on the first day of the school year

(08-16-2012 10:18 PM)UABslant Wrote:  

(08-16-2012 09:42 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  I think Dr. Garrison wanted to realize at least the announcement of an oncampus stadium. Seeing that it isn't an option in the near future, she may have decided to move on. May have been forced to move on. Who knows. I think it would be interesting to interview Dr. Garrison about several of these BOT torpedoes over the last several years once she is no longer active president. Would be nice to hear her speak out and get the truth out there about Jimbo Fisher, the st

I think Dr. Garrison has more valuable accomplishments to hang her hat on in her career at UAB than a football stadium.

The North Pavilion, Hazelrig Salter, the Campus Green (including encompassing buildings), record enrollment, and increased academic rankings come to mind.

As for athletics, she stuck around to see that Haase, McGee, and Mackin got their contracts approved. She left the athletic dept in good hands for at least the next 3-5 years.

I've been wondering if she had to make a deal to get those deals done. If so, at least it was done without a dead guy in her swimming pool.

It's amazing how everyone thinks the presidents job revolves around athletics.

(08-16-2012 10:31 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(08-16-2012 10:18 PM)UABslant Wrote:  [quote='Blazer85' pid='8160196' dateline='1345171364']
I think Dr. Garrison wanted to realize at least the announcement of an oncampus stadium. Seeing that it isn't an option in the near future, she may have decided to move on. May have been forced to move on. Who knows. I think it would be interesting to interview Dr. Garrison about several of these BOT torpedoes over the last several years once she is no longer active president. Would be nice to hear her speak out and get the truth out there about Jimbo Fisher, the st

I think Dr. Garrison has more valuable accomplishments to hang her hat on in her career at UAB than a football stadium.

The North Pavilion, Hazelrig Salter, the Campus Green (including encompassing buildings), record enrollment, and increased academic rankings come to mind.

As for athletics, she stuck around to see that Haase, McGee, and Mackin got their contracts approved. She left the athletic dept in good hands for at least the next 3-5 years.

Had she been able to get the OCS though, she would be a UAB legend. Something like, Bartow-Garrison Stadium.

(08-16-2012 10:40 PM)blazinrunner Wrote:  

(08-16-2012 10:31 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(08-16-2012 10:18 PM)UABslant Wrote:  [quote='Blazer85' pid='8160196' dateline='1345171364']
I think Dr. Garrison wanted to realize at least the announcement of an oncampus stadium. Seeing that it isn't an option in the near future, she may have decided to move on. May have been forced to move on. Who knows. I think it would be interesting to interview Dr. Garrison about several of these BOT torpedoes over the last several years once she is no longer active president. Would be nice to hear her speak out and get the truth out there about Jimbo Fisher, the st

I think Dr. Garrison has more valuable accomplishments to hang her hat on in her career at UAB than a football stadium.

The North Pavilion, Hazelrig Salter, the Campus Green (including encompassing buildings), record enrollment, and increased academic rankings come to mind.

As for athletics, she stuck around to see that Haase, McGee, and Mackin got their contracts approved. She left the athletic dept in good hands for at least the next 3-5 years.

Had she been able to get the OCS though, she would be a UAB legend. Something like, Bartow-Garrison Stadium.

There are far more important issues for the undergraduate side of UAB than an On-Campus Stadium. Parking, Transit, and Housing need to be address first (and are).

(08-16-2012 09:35 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(08-16-2012 08:34 PM)Uncle BLAZER Wrote:  

(08-16-2012 08:11 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Somebody retires and suddenly its the end of the world. Get a grip, people.

Who has lost their grip? I think the comments so far have been pretty tame and normal reactions for this crowd. You know there is most likely much more to the story than her just retiring. I think you just get off on making comments like you are somehow much more level headed and enlightened than other people.
This is a pretty big topic of discussion. People can vent and say whatever they want without losing their grip. Again, I don't see where anyone has. Nobody is slitting their wrists over it. But the comments made are all in the realm of reality considering past events.

She is one of the longest serving presidents ever. There is no indication that it is anything more than a retirement. This thread does not represent that.

Regardless of what's been said here, this isn't merely a retirement.

(08-16-2012 10:38 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  It's amazing how everyone thinks the presidents job revolves around athletics.

Dr. G was huge proponent of athletics, and she used her position as President to ensure improvements were made in the athletic department. I think it is pretty evident that she kept a close tab on the athletics.

(08-16-2012 10:38 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  It's amazing how everyone thinks the presidents job revolves around athletics.

alumni like athletics. Alumni come back on campus and donate money because of athletics.

Shes not going to retire.. She has found greener pastures elsewhere. She did her job well at UAB for ten years and is ready to move on.

(08-16-2012 11:03 PM)mbelcher987 Wrote:  

(08-16-2012 10:38 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  It's amazing how everyone thinks the presidents job revolves around athletics.

alumni like athletics. Alumni come back on campus and donate money because of athletics.

This. I just hope a UA toady isn't sent in and royally screws over the undergraduate program. The undergrad side of things includes athletics, housing, student life, etc. I just hope this isn't the board's response to UA losing traditional students to what is becoming a traditional campus at UAB. They won't screw with the medical side because it makes too much money. I find it very odd she stepped down the week of classes beginning. All I know is if the board thinks they can pull an OCS 2.0 on us, they haven't begun to see us raise hell. It really sucks having to worry about whether your university is being screwed by the powers that be. UAB graduates and students don't deserve any of the treatment we've received. I don't know whether this is some kind of funny business by the bastards of trustees or not, but it's not irrational to think that it may be. If it is, personally I'm not going to stand for it and none of us should. These next few years could be the most important in our university's existence. We all need to stick together as part of the UAB family. We need to show those scum in Tuscaloosa that there's too many of us for them to just try and roll over us. That's the end of my rant for tonight, take it or leave it.

(08-16-2012 09:30 PM)UABslant Wrote:  I can't form an honest opinion on this until I get more info on the reasons for herstepping down the first week of fall classes.

This wasn't spontaneous. Probably been planned for a while. Speculation on her leaving started circulating on campus the day that the stadium debacle happened at the Board meeting. Doing it after classes get started lets her see things get started so there's not a lot of major issues on the table when the interim starts.

Quote:What about Eli Capiluto returning to UAB?

No. Like he'd leave Kentucky to come back to UAB anyway. He's leading the flagship of the state. Come back here and he has to deal with the Tuscaloosa/Birmingham politics.

(08-16-2012 10:51 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  Regardless of what's been said here, this isn't merely a retirement.

Indeed. The wheels were put into motion when the stadium thing happened. I think Finis St. John saying UAB had "slipped" in the past 10 years was basically a "you're fired" moment for her. Robert Witt getting the Chancellor position probably sealed the deal for her.

(08-17-2012 03:39 AM)blazertke Wrote:  This. I just hope a UA toady isn't sent in and royally screws over the undergraduate program. The undergrad side of things includes athletics, housing, student life, etc. I just hope this isn't the board's response to UA losing traditional students to what is becoming a traditional campus at UAB. They won't screw with the medical side because it makes too much money. I find it very odd she stepped down the week of classes beginning. All I know is if the board thinks they can pull an OCS 2.0 on us, they haven't begun to see us raise hell. It really sucks having to worry about whether your university is being screwed by the powers that be. UAB graduates and students don't deserve any of the treatment we've received. I don't know whether this is some kind of funny business by the bastards of trustees or not, but it's not irrational to think that it may be. If it is, personally I'm not going to stand for it and none of us should. These next few years could be the most important in our university's existence. We all need to stick together as part of the UAB family. We need to show those scum in Tuscaloosa that there's too many of us for them to just try and roll over us. That's the end of my rant for tonight, take it or leave it.

I think valium needs to be handed out when you register for BlazerTalk. Yes, the Board is Out To Get Us™ when it comes to athletics. They would love to see UAB drop down to a lower division or drop athletics completely. I do think there is still a chance to do a stadium if McGee is successful and attendance increases at Legion Field.

At any rate, athletics aside, there's not necessarily a vast conspiracy to "save UA" from UAB. The threats from the undergraduate side of UAB come from east of 18th Street South. UA's population has exploded and they're getting new facilities all over the place. UAB is not stealing anyone from UA. However, the west side of campus is taking money and more importantly attention and facility dollars from the medical side of campus. I think the Board is perfectly happy to allow UAB's undergraduate environment to continue on its current trajectory. What's crucial is that they hire someone who can manage both the medical/research side and the undergraduate side and keep the peace that Dr. Garrison did.

Something else to consider...John McMahon, who will be leading the search for her replacement, was a stadium supporter and is from Birmingham. Sure, he's a UA graduate, but he knows UAB butters Birmingham's bread.

(08-16-2012 10:38 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  It's amazing how everyone thinks the presidents job revolves around athletics.

This is Alabama.

"hooverblazer Wrote:
Regardless of what's been said here, this isn't merely a retirement.

Indeed. The wheels were put into motion when the stadium thing happened. I think Finis St. John saying UAB had "slipped" in the past 10 years was basically a "you're fired" moment for her. Robert Witt getting the Chancellor position probably sealed the deal for her."

Maybe not a "you're fired" moment, at that time, but I think it might give foreshadowing as to what background the next President will have.

(08-17-2012 07:41 AM)Blazer86 Wrote:  "hooverblazer Wrote:
Regardless of what's been said here, this isn't merely a retirement.

Indeed. The wheels were put into motion when the stadium thing happened. I think Finis St. John saying UAB had "slipped" in the past 10 years was basically a "you're fired" moment for her. Robert Witt getting the Chancellor position probably sealed the deal for her."

Maybe not a "you're fired" moment, at that time, but I think it might give foreshadowing as to what background the next President will have.

Maybe. Maybe not. But anyone who says that is a completely paranoid train of thought, hasn't been paying attention over the last several years.
I agree we BT's probably over exaggerate some of UAT's intentions/motives regarding UAB but history has provided several pieces of evidence that UAB's(or UAH) best interest are rarely(if ever) at the forefront of the disTrustees agenda.
Maybe this will turn ok for UAB - who knows? It may not though and to discount that as a complete absurdity is having your eyes closed.

(08-16-2012 10:31 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(08-16-2012 10:18 PM)UABslant Wrote:  

(08-16-2012 09:42 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  I think Dr. Garrison wanted to realize at least the announcement of an oncampus stadium. Seeing that it isn't an option in the near future, she may have decided to move on. May have been forced to move on. Who knows. I think it would be interesting to interview Dr. Garrison about several of these BOT torpedoes over the last several years once she is no longer active president. Would be nice to hear her speak out and get the truth out there about Jimbo Fisher, the st

I think Dr. Garrison has more valuable accomplishments to hang her hat on in her career at UAB than a football stadium.

The North Pavilion, Hazelrig Salter, the Campus Green (including encompassing buildings), record enrollment, and increased academic rankings come to mind.

As for athletics, she stuck around to see that Haase, McGee, and Mackin got their contracts approved. She left the athletic dept in good hands for at least the next 3-5 years.

I've been wondering if she had to make a deal to get those deals done. If so, at least it was done without a dead guy in her swimming pool.

...or a horse's severed head in her bed...

(08-16-2012 07:50 PM)Uncle BLAZER Wrote:  I wonder if McGee already caught wind of this and that was part of the "threats" he spoke to the team about?

Good observation. I was wondering the same thing.

(08-17-2012 07:32 AM)Uncle BLAZER Wrote:  

(08-16-2012 10:38 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  It's amazing how everyone thinks the presidents job revolves around athletics.

This is Alabama.

+1!

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