(08-19-2012 08:23 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(08-19-2012 12:07 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Look guys. Its this simple. NBC has no college content. NBC cant afford for the Big East to go to another network. NBC-Sports is smaller than ESPN and is unproven. Matching or slightly beating ESPN or Fox isnt going to be enough for NBC to win the bid. NBC has to blow the other more established networks out of the water and commit to a weekly game on the flagship NBC network in order to win the Big East rights.

Disagree....for several reasons:

1) "NBC" will also be a part of the package...not just NBC Sports

2) NBC & NBC Sports can/would make Big East Property #1 (tons of promotions/publicity), something ESPN can't do...as Big East would remain its 6th property in regards to priority.

Maybe NBC does blow the doors off with their bid...but I bet a major part of their package will be non-revenue promotion, publicity, priority and especially SATURDAY Time Slots for Football...as all of those will have WORTH/VALUE to a conf like the Big East....and one that can't be matched by ESPN.

Heck, NBC has already hinted/stated as such (as did the Big East HQ when Carparelli said that things outside of total $$$ PAID will be a priority in this next contract)..as I think the Big East leaders already have them in the LEAD....and NBC may not even need to match or beat ESPN's bid to get the Tier I TV contract from the Big East.

The New Big East will need NATIONAL EXPOSURE from coast-to-coast...which might be worth an extra $500,000 - $1 Million less per team.

Well, I hope NBC gets the contract and can carry the water for the BE. Your point in #2 concerning promotion and publicity is just as important as the $$$, at least in my book. Look at what ESPN has done to the Big East by driving down the conference's value with negative publicity. And if you want to see what CBS can do for the conference look no further than the Mountain West Conference. NO promotion, no publicity, no pregame shows. Instead, the hour before a big Saturday game is filled with bow hunting or fishing.

Besides the money the Big East needs a network that is going to guarantee us that it will promote the conference and help new commish Mike Aresco restore the Big East back to its national prominence.

(08-19-2012 08:37 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(08-19-2012 08:30 AM)Chris02M Wrote:  nbc isnt going have a lot of games on from the bigeast maybe 1 game a week after golf is done in late september and maybe a dh the last week of regular season,nbc sports will be main spot for football games

Hint: Golf isn't played in "PrimeTime" during the Fall.

Also, when ND is on the road or off (when NBC wouldn't have a ND "home game"), Noon slot on NBC would also be open, as most Sat/Sun Golf coverage starts at 3 pm.

PS. As someone else already noted, NBC Sports Network enjoyed their highest ratings EVER on a weekday afternoon telecast (Women's Olympic Soccer Final), which drew a larger audience than ANY Stanley Cup Game shown in PRIMETIME on Versus/NBCSN.

NBCSN enjoyed their 6 most watched days ever (even with mostly weekday coverage with mostly minor sports) during the Olympics, as NBC Universal set an Olympic record in total TV audience with the London games.

Finally, NBC's Olympic Online Coverage of LIVE (and record events) drew multiple records with video streams, engagement time and page views – nearly 2 billion page views and 159 million video streams.

the noon slot would be available but at least my local nbc shows kids programming at noon most saturdays

People that want ESPN just because they're ESPN don't get it. The Big East would be scraping for prime slots on ESPN/ABC and that means a lot of "weak"day games. NBC can provide Saturday TV slots on a national level in their Prime and Sports networks. It's a no-brainer.

(08-19-2012 12:07 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Look guys. Its this simple. NBC has no college content. NBC cant afford for the Big East to go to another network. NBC-Sports is smaller than ESPN and is unproven. Matching or slightly beating ESPN or Fox isnt going to be enough for NBC to win the bid. NBC has to blow the other more established networks out of the water and commit to a weekly game on the flagship NBC network in order to win the Big East rights.

That was what I said earlier and you disagreed with? Did we get you to change your mind?

(08-16-2012 12:15 PM)billetingman1 Wrote:  Our new Commish didn't leave an Executive VP job at CBS, to take his new position to earn us a 8-10 million dollar contract. The man knows whats going on behind the closed doors. I'm sure his contract is loaded with bonuses on the back end for how much he earns US in a new TV contract. A guy of his stature just doesn't WAKE up one day and say, I want to try this new job unless he knows ballpark figures of what he thinks he can land.

Very true. ESPN really blew it with their agenda to badmouth the BE to bring down our value. I bet the hiring of Aresco shocked the holy hell out of them and it's going to bite them in the ass in the process. He knows their game and their numbers. All of a sudden no more hit pieces by ESPN. LOL

(08-19-2012 02:05 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(08-19-2012 12:07 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Look guys. Its this simple. NBC has no college content. NBC cant afford for the Big East to go to another network. NBC-Sports is smaller than ESPN and is unproven. Matching or slightly beating ESPN or Fox isnt going to be enough for NBC to win the bid. NBC has to blow the other more established networks out of the water and commit to a weekly game on the flagship NBC network in order to win the Big East rights.

That was what I said earlier and you disagreed with? Did we get you to change your mind?

lol...well, I have been pretty consistant that my preference has always been that BE-Football end up on NBC as long as they air at least one game per week on NBC-OTA. The Big East football is mostly going to be stuck on ESPN2 and ESPN-U which are about equal to NBC-Sports in reach.

That said, ESPN is the world leader in sports and dumping ESPN completely is a good way to erase yourself from the conversations that occurr on all thier talking head shows. ESPN can be pretty vindictive, so yeah---I think that NBC bid would still need to reflect a signifiant premium to offset the risk that the Big East would be taking in leaving ESPN. Even if you dont buy that argument--I also tend to think the premium will be there for a second reason. NBC simply cant afford to lose out on the Big East. So I think that thier bid will be very strong in a an attempt to make sure that they do not lose out.

If the bids are pretty close to the same--it might be best to split the package beween the the two carriers. The majority of football with NBC with some to ESPN. The majority of basketball with ESPN with some going to NBC. That would give us the best of both worlds. We would get excellent NBC time slots and NBC-ota coverage along with some protection from the certain ESPN backplash that would have occured if the Big East left ESPN completely. The bottom line---in my personal opinion we need that exposure via NBC over the air to establish ourselves as a major conference. NBC MUST have alot more quality live sports content to drive any significant growth in NBC-Sports. I'll be shocked if NBC doesnt ante up and we dont end up with most of our content on NBC.

(08-19-2012 11:16 AM)Goldenbuc Wrote:  People that want ESPN just because they're ESPN don't get it. The Big East would be scraping for prime slots on ESPN/ABC and that means a lot of "weak"day games. NBC can provide Saturday TV slots on a national level in their Prime and Sports networks. It's a no-brainer.

With so many teams, my hope is NBC gets Tier 1 in FB and ESPN gets Tier 1 (or least Tier 2) in BB. With Tier 2 and 3 split w/ multi carriers, there will still be good FB and great BB games.

Regardless how much bad mouthing ESPN has done, we still need ESPN one way or another because ESPN is still the leader in sports. We need to be in the conversation and on the highlights. I've noticed that the negative talks/articles from ESPN has stopped. Perhaps, the hiring of Aresco has change the strategy for them. Let's hope that this translates to a legit first offering the first go around.