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(08-15-2012 01:37 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  This is from the weekly radio show that features VT AD Jim Weaver, Head Coach Frank Beamer, and usually one of the assistant coaches in rotation.

The following are "notes" from the 8/13 broadcast. Not direct quotes:
Quote:Weaver doesn’t know who the ACC’s Orange Bowl opponent will be. In late June, he thought he knew exactly what would happen, but things changed. Weaver didn’t want to get into what changed, because it could impact something else, and that something else is expansion. He’s not going to say who the expansion involves, but if you surveyed everyone in the audience someone would be able to tell you. Weaver thinks it will play out in the not too distance future.

http://www.techsideline.com/article/2012...for-81312/

People are of course speculating he meant Notre Dame.

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What changed? That meeting of ACC member presidents and the ND president/chancellor/poobah.

Lots of folks were speculating that meeting was only about the Orange Bowl. But, from where I sit (in the minority opinion), school presidents and chancellors meet concerning things of league affiliation (re: "membership").

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(08-16-2012 10:33 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(08-16-2012 10:15 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(08-16-2012 10:02 AM)Ragu Wrote:  The Big 10 sucks? That is laughable. Way better football conference than the ACC and it isn't even close.
I would put the ACC up against B1G w/o hesitation.
You would be wrong. There is a reason why their contract dwarfs the ACC's.
Utterly irrelevant to the quality of football on the field. Big Ten also makes more $$$ than the SEC - does that mean they are better? No. Apples & Orangutans. This is a common misconception made by fans. TV viewers (and timing of negotiations) determines money - NOT quality of play (at least not directly).

Quote:And why the ACC was thought of as maybe being left out of the Big 4 before it became a Big 5 again.
Really? By whom - bloggers? This is simply false. It's about the "Good ole boy" network, and the ACC is in the same fraternity.

Quote:The Big 10 is a way more powerful conference and the football is better both at the top and overall. Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska and Penn State at their best beat the ACC's 4 best on top of their game easily.
Again, REALLY? Let's match up last year's teams 1 through 12:

1 - Clemson vs Wisconsin - B1G
2 - Va Tech vs Michigan St - B1G
3 - Florida St vs Michigan - ACC
4 - Virginia vs Penn St - ACC
5 - NC State vs Nebraska - ???
6 - Ga Tech vs Iowa - B1G
7 - N Carolina vs Purdue - ACC
8 - Miami vs Ohio St - ACC
9 - Wake Fst vs Northwestern - ACC
10 - Boston C vs Illinois - ???
11 - Duke vs Minnesota - ACC
12 - Maryland vs Indiana - ACC

Admittedly this is just my opinion (although I feel really strong about Miami over Ohio St!), but the way I see it an ACC/B1G football challenge last year would've gone something like ACC 7, B1G 3 (with 2 I just cant' figure). At best, B1G is about the same as the ACC in football - no way are they "way more powerful".
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RE: Weaver on Tech Talk Live
Notre Dame as anything but a full member is pointless - we'd just become Big East 2.0...

Plus, ND is touting the long-term viability of their football independence, having won playoff access and AD Jack Swarbrick is saying they've secured Orange Bowl access -- why would they about face to their base that loves independence and join the ACC now? That doesn't make any sense, especially with our ****** television contract; that they will definitely beat in dollars and exposure with their individual contract negotiations with NBC, who openly says is eager to extend their contract.
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RE: Weaver
(08-16-2012 12:25 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(08-16-2012 10:33 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(08-16-2012 10:15 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(08-16-2012 10:02 AM)Ragu Wrote:  The Big 10 sucks? That is laughable. Way better football conference than the ACC and it isn't even close.
I would put the ACC up against B1G w/o hesitation.
You would be wrong. There is a reason why their contract dwarfs the ACC's.
Utterly irrelevant to the quality of football on the field. Big Ten also makes more $$$ than the SEC - does that mean they are better? No. Apples & Orangutans. This is a common misconception made by fans. TV viewers (and timing of negotiations) determines money - NOT quality of play (at least not directly).

Quote:And why the ACC was thought of as maybe being left out of the Big 4 before it became a Big 5 again.
Really? By whom - bloggers? This is simply false. It's about the "Good ole boy" network, and the ACC is in the same fraternity.

Quote:The Big 10 is a way more powerful conference and the football is better both at the top and overall. Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska and Penn State at their best beat the ACC's 4 best on top of their game easily.
Again, REALLY? Let's match up last year's teams 1 through 12:

1 - Clemson vs Wisconsin - B1G
2 - Va Tech vs Michigan St - B1G
3 - Florida St vs Michigan - ACC
4 - Virginia vs Penn St - ACC
5 - NC State vs Nebraska - ???
6 - Ga Tech vs Iowa - B1G
7 - N Carolina vs Purdue - ACC
8 - Miami vs Ohio St - ACC
9 - Wake Fst vs Northwestern - ACC
10 - Boston C vs Illinois - ???
11 - Duke vs Minnesota - ACC
12 - Maryland vs Indiana - ACC

Admittedly this is just my opinion (although I feel really strong about Miami over Ohio St!), but the way I see it an ACC/B1G football challenge last year would've gone something like ACC 7, B1G 3 (with 2 I just cant' figure). At best, B1G is about the same as the ACC in football - no way are they "way more powerful".

The conference as a whole is way more powerful than the ACC. There is no debate about that. I can't see how anyone could think the ACC is a better football conference than the Big 10. That truly is crazy talk to me. There aren't 4 programs in the ACC than can be grouped with Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and Nebraska at their best. Take all of the programs at their highest level and look at them. The ACC gets crushed. You can't go by one sole year and hypothetical matchups either.
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Weaver on Tech Talk Live alludes to expansion and speculation is the subject is ND
I'd say that Miami, FSU, an Virginia Tech at their best matches up w/ the B1G's top 3 at their best. But can't find a #4, GT & Clemson would round that out somehow.
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RE: blah blah blah is this too long?
(08-16-2012 01:15 AM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  You might want to check on your "facts". I would suggest this website:

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Wonder what Clemson could have accomplished in the BE all those years.

Nothing, because the Big East was superior as was shown in bowls and polls.

Last time Clemson finished in the top 20 was 2000, a year the were blown out of their bowl game against a Big East team, just like this year.

Let's see a review of Clemson vs the BE in bowl games:

1996 vs Syracuse in the Gator 0-41 (SU finished third in the BE)
2001 vs VTech in the Gator 20-41 (VTech finished second in the BE)
2010 vs USF in the Meineke 26-31 (USF finished 5th in the Big East)
2012 vs WVU...33-70 (WVU won the BE with 2 conference losses).

That's 0-4.

Regular season Big East opponents.

1998 vs VT 0-37 (VT finished in a 3-way tie for second in the BE)
1999 at VT 11-31 (VT won the conference)
1991 vs Temple 37-7 (Temple finished 0-5 in the first year of the conference)

1-6 overall record vs BE opponents.

Take a look at Clemson vs BE teams when they first entered the ACC...
Lost three straight to BC, a program that, save the depleted 2004 season, never finished higher than third in the BE; got blown out the first two times it faced Virginia Tech as an ACC opponent, a program Pitt had beaten its last three meetings; and alternated wins with Miami.

Yeah, I do wonder what Clemson would have done.

Anyone blown out by the mediocre WVU team last year should keep their mouths shut about their program and conference. What a freakin' joke Clemson fans are turning out to be.
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(08-16-2012 10:08 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  The B1G 10 is a horrible conference. The teams are; Fat, slow, and overrated. Nearly every OOC or Bowl game, that conference is getting wiped off the earth.

Agreed. They usually have one genuinely great team at the top (Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and now Nebraska are almost always this team.) Then usually two very decent but highly beatable teams (Wisconsin, Michigan State, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa are almost always providing these teams.) Then a bunch of mediocre teams and then one or two horrible teams (Northwestern, Indiana and as of late Minnesota are usually the providers.)

OTOH, the ACC and the Big East too for that matter don't often have that one genuinely great team at the top but the middles of the conferences are probably the strongest around. The bottom of the ACC in Duke is pretty bad but outside of them there really aren't any truly bad teams for extended periods of time. Even Wake isn't woeful anymore.
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RE: Weaver
(08-16-2012 12:45 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(08-16-2012 12:25 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(08-16-2012 10:33 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(08-16-2012 10:15 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(08-16-2012 10:02 AM)Ragu Wrote:  The Big 10 sucks? That is laughable. Way better football conference than the ACC and it isn't even close.
I would put the ACC up against B1G w/o hesitation.
You would be wrong. There is a reason why their contract dwarfs the ACC's.
Utterly irrelevant to the quality of football on the field. Big Ten also makes more $$$ than the SEC - does that mean they are better? No. Apples & Orangutans. This is a common misconception made by fans. TV viewers (and timing of negotiations) determines money - NOT quality of play (at least not directly).

Quote:And why the ACC was thought of as maybe being left out of the Big 4 before it became a Big 5 again.
Really? By whom - bloggers? This is simply false. It's about the "Good ole boy" network, and the ACC is in the same fraternity.

Quote:The Big 10 is a way more powerful conference and the football is better both at the top and overall. Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska and Penn State at their best beat the ACC's 4 best on top of their game easily.
Again, REALLY? Let's match up last year's teams 1 through 12:

1 - Clemson vs Wisconsin - B1G
2 - Va Tech vs Michigan St - B1G
3 - Florida St vs Michigan - ACC
4 - Virginia vs Penn St - ACC
5 - NC State vs Nebraska - ???
6 - Ga Tech vs Iowa - B1G
7 - N Carolina vs Purdue - ACC
8 - Miami vs Ohio St - ACC
9 - Wake Fst vs Northwestern - ACC
10 - Boston C vs Illinois - ???
11 - Duke vs Minnesota - ACC
12 - Maryland vs Indiana - ACC

Admittedly this is just my opinion (although I feel really strong about Miami over Ohio St!), but the way I see it an ACC/B1G football challenge last year would've gone something like ACC 7, B1G 3 (with 2 I just cant' figure). At best, B1G is about the same as the ACC in football - no way are they "way more powerful".

The conference as a whole is way more powerful than the ACC. There is no debate about that. I can't see how anyone could think the ACC is a better football conference than the Big 10. That truly is crazy talk to me. There aren't 4 programs in the ACC than can be grouped with Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and Nebraska at their best. Take all of the programs at their highest level and look at them. The ACC gets crushed. You can't go by one sole year and hypothetical matchups either.

Lucky Pitt is coming to the ACC then. Since 2000, Pitt is 2-3 vs the B1G. Wins vs PSU and Iowa, losses to MSU (2) and Iowa, Most were very competitive.
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Florida State however seems to own the Big 10 all time and even with current matchups. The Big 10 is still the better football conference though.
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RE: Weaver
(08-16-2012 12:25 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(08-16-2012 10:33 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(08-16-2012 10:15 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(08-16-2012 10:02 AM)Ragu Wrote:  The Big 10 sucks? That is laughable. Way better football conference than the ACC and it isn't even close.
I would put the ACC up against B1G w/o hesitation.
You would be wrong. There is a reason why their contract dwarfs the ACC's.
Utterly irrelevant to the quality of football on the field. Big Ten also makes more $$$ than the SEC - does that mean they are better? No. Apples & Orangutans. This is a common misconception made by fans. TV viewers (and timing of negotiations) determines money - NOT quality of play (at least not directly).

Quote:And why the ACC was thought of as maybe being left out of the Big 4 before it became a Big 5 again.
Really? By whom - bloggers? This is simply false. It's about the "Good ole boy" network, and the ACC is in the same fraternity.

Quote:The Big 10 is a way more powerful conference and the football is better both at the top and overall. Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska and Penn State at their best beat the ACC's 4 best on top of their game easily.
Again, REALLY? Let's match up last year's teams 1 through 12:

1 - Clemson vs Wisconsin - B1G
2 - Va Tech vs Michigan St - B1G
3 - Florida St vs Michigan - ACC
4 - Virginia vs Penn St - ACC
5 - NC State vs Nebraska - ???
6 - Ga Tech vs Iowa - B1G
7 - N Carolina vs Purdue - ACC
8 - Miami vs Ohio St - ACC
9 - Wake Fst vs Northwestern - ACC
10 - Boston C vs Illinois - ???
11 - Duke vs Minnesota - ACC
12 - Maryland vs Indiana - ACC

Admittedly this is just my opinion (although I feel really strong about Miami over Ohio St!), but the way I see it an ACC/B1G football challenge last year would've gone something like ACC 7, B1G 3 (with 2 I just cant' figure). At best, B1G is about the same as the ACC in football - no way are they "way more powerful".

You're right about Miami... Just look at our game against the Buckeyes last year. That shows it!
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RE: blah blah blah is this too long?
(08-16-2012 12:54 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  
(08-16-2012 01:15 AM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  You might want to check on your "facts". I would suggest this website:

cfbdatawarehouse


Wonder what Clemson could have accomplished in the BE all those years.

Nothing, because the Big East was superior as was shown in bowls and polls.

Last time Clemson finished in the top 20 was 2000, a year the were blown out of their bowl game against a Big East team, just like this year.

Let's see a review of Clemson vs the BE in bowl games:

1996 vs Syracuse in the Gator 0-41 (SU finished third in the BE)
2001 vs VTech in the Gator 20-41 (VTech finished second in the BE)
2010 vs USF in the Meineke 26-31 (USF finished 5th in the Big East)
2012 vs WVU...33-70 (WVU won the BE with 2 conference losses).

That's 0-4.

Regular season Big East opponents.

1998 vs VT 0-37 (VT finished in a 3-way tie for second in the BE)
1999 at VT 11-31 (VT won the conference)
1991 vs Temple 37-7 (Temple finished 0-5 in the first year of the conference)

1-6 overall record vs BE opponents.

Take a look at Clemson vs BE teams when they first entered the ACC...
Lost three straight to BC, a program that, save the depleted 2004 season, never finished higher than third in the BE; got blown out the first two times it faced Virginia Tech as an ACC opponent, a program Pitt had beaten its last three meetings; and alternated wins with Miami.

Yeah, I do wonder what Clemson would have done.

Anyone blown out by the mediocre WVU team last year should keep their mouths shut about their program and conference. What a freakin' joke Clemson fans are turning out to be.

In case you missed it, I couldn't have said it any better myself...
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VT is 2-0 against Nebraska recently and it took a bull**** overturn on a TD while our first two kickers had been suspended for Michigan to beat us in overtime.

We will find out in the coming years how we do against Wisconsin and Ohio State but from recent history, there is nothing to suggest that VT can't keep up with the "big 4" of the Big 10.
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(08-16-2012 03:23 PM)7fielder Wrote:  No but I don't act like Pitt isn't the reason that the Big East has sucked. We are partially to blame for the Big East's futility when we can’t even win the conference outright. I don't throw stones at glass houses. You blame the ACC's problems on everybody but Clemson. You also made the comment earlier that Clemson would have probably faired better over the years had they been in the Big East. Paco clearly demonstrated that they would not have.

Anyone can talk about football; it is the contempt and arrogance that you show other teams in your conference that makes you intolerable. I surely hope that you are not the normal example of southern hospitality in Death Valley as it doesn't seem like anyone would have a good time unless you wear orange and white or is a Bevo12 or SEC fan, because the rest of us are unworthy of playing football against you big boys.

I have repeatedly stated on this very forum that Clemson stepped on it's own crank for about 20 years with two horrible coaching hires, and piss poor leadership from the AD, and that we shared the blame for the state the conference is in right now. There are two big differences between what I am saying and what the majority around here are saying.

Number 1 is we have done something about our own problems. We've made the right coaching hires. We've dumped a huge amount of cash into facility upgrades and new construction. We are tireless on the recruiting trail. We will not be satisfied with 8-9 win seasons. We will get back to the point where the ACC stands for "Another Clemson Championship", or heads will roll. We will do all this despite being handcuffed by a piss poor TV contract.

Number 2 is while I readily admit Clemson shares the blame for the ACC in it's current state....all you ever hear from the rest of the folks around here is "Well FSU and Clemson should have done better. They only have themselves to blame." Last time I checked there were 12 members playing football in this conference. When the big dogs in other conferences have fallen back (and everybody eventually returns to the field) someone stepped up to the plate. In the ACC instead of someone stepping up, everybody seemed to take a step back.

One of the big problems with the ACC is outside of the Chick-fil-a and maybe the Sun Bowl the non-BCS bowls suck. A big reason for that is other than FSU, VT, and Clemson ACC schools do not travel for football. That will be evident for the entire nation to see on 8/31 when the Georgia Dome is covered in Tennessee's orange sherbert colors even on the NC State side. It's evident at every Clemson ACC home game outside of FSU/GT/VT and Miami. Bowls live on ticket sales, and outside of the aforementioned programs they know that they aren't going to get many with the rest of the conference.

Another is fan apathy in regards to football. I have been sitting in Keenan Stadium in the past during a competitive game and watched a significant portion of the UNC fanbase get up and leave midway through the 4th quarter. It seems there was an open basketball practice later that afternoon and they went to get in line. On Nov 3rd I'm betting good money that Wallace Wade will look like Death Valley North, because it typically does every time we play up there. GTS is scared that one day he is going to look on this board and actually see a Duke football fan post. At that point this board will never be able to upgrade because the Feds typically don't let you mess around with the habitat of an endangered species.


So, with that said either you are misinformed, or I caught you in another lie. I have never said Clemson was blameless, and I refuse to accept that FSU and Clemson alone share the blame.


Oh, and about the Orange Bowl. Get your yucks while you can. A similar beatdown happened in 1975 against South Carolina and a handful of IPTAY power brokers got together with the athletic dept and said "Never again" We had a losing season in 1976, then went on a 15 year tear where we averaged 9 wins a year, won 7 ACC titles (and would have won more if not for probation) and a National Championship. A similar meeting was held this past winter.
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(08-16-2012 04:13 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  One of the big problems with the ACC is outside of the Chick-fil-a and maybe the Sun Bowl the non-BCS bowls suck.
Don't forget Champs Sports Bowl. That's 4 really good bowl tie-ins. The next tier (Music City, Belk, Independence) all pay over $1M - not bad for tier 2. IMO if the ACC could add (or even create) one more 1st tier bowl, we'd be just fine in that area.

Quote:Another is fan apathy in regards to football... GTS is scared that one day he is going to look on this board and actually see a Duke football fan post.
2 Duke posts this week by a real, live Duke fan:

RE: Who do you MOST want to beat this year?, Post #16

RE: Alternate Duke helmets for 2012, Post #14

Quote:Oh, and about the Orange Bowl. Get your yucks while you can. A similar beatdown happened in 1975 against South Carolina and a handful of IPTAY power brokers got together with the athletic dept and said "Never again" We had a losing season in 1976, then went on a 15 year tear where we averaged 9 wins a year, won 7 ACC titles (and would have won more if not for probation) and a National Championship. A similar meeting was held this past winter.

This is good stuff, Cat! I hope Clemson is restored to it's 1980's level... it'll mean so much more when we finally beat you again (last year stunk!)
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Other than...

1. Calling me a liar
2. "One of the big problems with the ACC is outside of the Chick-fil-a and maybe the Sun Bowl the non-BCS bowls suck."

That was actually a well thought out and reasonable post. Most of which I agree with. With the Bowl thing... maybe I'm just used to the Big East Bowls, b/c other than the AQ we pretty much have worse bowls than CUSA schools?

I also get no yucks outta the Orange Bowl... you think I wanted to see the the champs from Pitt's future conference get dropped like that to anyone but West "by God" Virginia? It couldn't have been a worse team for a Pitt fan. I root for every ACC school from here on out against the rest of the country!
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ND/Big East/ACC
This may be a deflection or disinformation but Swarbrick's comments about the Big East seem to go against the idea of ND joining the ACC in any form:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...mmissioner
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(08-17-2012 07:21 AM)TerryD Wrote:  This may be a deflection or disinformation but Swarbrick's comments about the Big East seem to go against the idea of ND joining the ACC in any form:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...mmissioner

Well of course he's going to praise the pick you don't just bash the pick even if the guy was a dipshit like meatball was which I'm not saying he is one. Though Louisville did still stay with their "if we get a better offer anywhere we're gone" stance.

I wonder if it might come down to ND trying to have it's way with the new guy like they did with meatball when it came to access to most of the BE bowl games and not having to play anyone in the conference most of the time.
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RE: Weaver on Tech Talk Live
I'm beginning to think everyone in college sports circles genuinely likes the Big East's new commissioner.

In one interview I listened to, he talked about vacationing with the SEC big wigs, about someone in the NCAA being the god father of one of his kids; I think people like him, if there is a true good old boys group, we all imply about existing, I'm thinking he's part of it. Plus, he praised Notre Dame in the conference call - I think everyone realizes that Jack basically got Big East expansion done - and there Jack returned the compliment and nod of appreciation.
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Clemson SID appears on radio show about ND and ACC
I just listened to the Roy Philpott show on 104.9 where he had Tim Bourett, the Clemson SID and ND grad, on. Bourett wrote a column in the Orange or Orange and White experience apparently about why Notre Dame would be a good fit in the ACC. Bourett went through the standard reasons, academics, etc. and then said if it happened it might start with a few games per year versus the ACC. The tone Philpott struck about ND was that he was in favor of it, that it could mean a lot of money on the ESPN deal by enabling them to renegotiate and great publicity for the conference. It really seemed like to me that they are making a PR push to create a positive environment for Notre Dame's entry into the conference. I just really got that feeling listening to it.

EDIT: And if you couple this with Weaver alluding to it on the VT show I think it builds the case the ACC is beginning to get the public ready for a potential ND announcement soon.
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RE: Clemson SID appears on radio show about ND and ACC
(08-17-2012 01:30 PM)ringmaster Wrote:  I just listened to the Roy Philpott show on 104.9 where he had Tim Bourett, the Clemson SID and ND grad, on. Bourett wrote a column in the Orange or Orange and White experience apparently about why Notre Dame would be a good fit in the ACC. Bourett went through the standard reasons, academics, etc. and then said if it happened it might start with a few games per year versus the ACC. The tone Philpott struck about ND was that he was in favor of it, that it could mean a lot of money on the ESPN deal by enabling them to renegotiate and great publicity for the conference. It really seemed like to me that they are making a PR push to create a positive environment for Notre Dame's entry into the conference. I just really got that feeling listening to it.

EDIT: And if you couple this with Weaver alluding to it on the VT show I think it builds the case the ACC is beginning to get the public ready for a potential ND announcement soon.

LOL. ND is not coming to the ACC. 03-lmfao

It just doesnt make any sense for ND who values its independence so much. It just wont happen. Not anytime soon anyway.
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