(07-06-2012 12:16 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(07-04-2012 01:54 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-02-2012 05:03 PM)klake87 Wrote:  I am personally against it but pro choice. I don't wanna pay for your mistakes that you don't want. And if someone choses not to have insurance guess they made a bad choice. If health care is a right, then fat people, smokers, drinkers, child baring women should be charges more. Obama wants money from young people now to defray current costs. Kinda like social security. Ian 47 and will never see a done of my money contributed

What if that person doesn't have insurance because they can't afford it and/or it is not offered at your place of employment? Is it really their bad choice that caused them to not have insurance? I would like to have health insurance but I would also like to eat and pay my rent. Sure, I could get rid of my internet and a few other things but the fact remains even if I did, I still couldn't afford the insurance.

Build a new skill set and find a new job/make more money.

You can get basic policies on your own. get a higher deductible. It will protect you from catestrophic medical bills.

(07-06-2012 12:16 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(07-04-2012 01:54 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-02-2012 05:03 PM)klake87 Wrote:  I am personally against it but pro choice. I don't wanna pay for your mistakes that you don't want. And if someone choses not to have insurance guess they made a bad choice. If health care is a right, then fat people, smokers, drinkers, child baring women should be charges more. Obama wants money from young people now to defray current costs. Kinda like social security. Ian 47 and will never see a done of my money contributed

What if that person doesn't have insurance because they can't afford it and/or it is not offered at your place of employment? Is it really their bad choice that caused them to not have insurance? I would like to have health insurance but I would also like to eat and pay my rent. Sure, I could get rid of my internet and a few other things but the fact remains even if I did, I still couldn't afford the insurance.

Build a new skill set and find a new job/make more money.

Sure. No problem,. Just get a new skill set. Why didn't I think of that? Maybe because it requires time and/or money, ehich most poor people have little of especially when many are working 2-3 jobs.

Some people can probably manage it but I doubt there are many that could handle it. You tend to hear about thsse stories in the news because most people can't do it and when one does, it makes for a feel good story.

(07-07-2012 10:34 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-06-2012 12:16 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(07-04-2012 01:54 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-02-2012 05:03 PM)klake87 Wrote:  I am personally against it but pro choice. I don't wanna pay for your mistakes that you don't want. And if someone choses not to have insurance guess they made a bad choice. If health care is a right, then fat people, smokers, drinkers, child baring women should be charges more. Obama wants money from young people now to defray current costs. Kinda like social security. Ian 47 and will never see a done of my money contributed

What if that person doesn't have insurance because they can't afford it and/or it is not offered at your place of employment? Is it really their bad choice that caused them to not have insurance? I would like to have health insurance but I would also like to eat and pay my rent. Sure, I could get rid of my internet and a few other things but the fact remains even if I did, I still couldn't afford the insurance.

Build a new skill set and find a new job/make more money.

Sure. No problem,. Just get a new skill set. Why didn't I think of that? Maybe because it requires time and/or money, ehich most poor people have little of especially when many are working 2-3 jobs.

Some people can probably manage it but I doubt there are many that could handle it. You tend to hear about thsse stories in the news because most people can't do it and when one does, it makes for a feel good story.

So because you can't hack it, the government needs to force someone else to pay your medical bills?

(07-07-2012 11:37 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(07-07-2012 10:34 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-06-2012 12:16 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(07-04-2012 01:54 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-02-2012 05:03 PM)klake87 Wrote:  I am personally against it but pro choice. I don't wanna pay for your mistakes that you don't want. And if someone choses not to have insurance guess they made a bad choice. If health care is a right, then fat people, smokers, drinkers, child baring women should be charges more. Obama wants money from young people now to defray current costs. Kinda like social security. Ian 47 and will never see a done of my money contributed

What if that person doesn't have insurance because they can't afford it and/or it is not offered at your place of employment? Is it really their bad choice that caused them to not have insurance? I would like to have health insurance but I would also like to eat and pay my rent. Sure, I could get rid of my internet and a few other things but the fact remains even if I did, I still couldn't afford the insurance.

Build a new skill set and find a new job/make more money.

Sure. No problem,. Just get a new skill set. Why didn't I think of that? Maybe because it requires time and/or money, ehich most poor people have little of especially when many are working 2-3 jobs.

Some people can probably manage it but I doubt there are many that could handle it. You tend to hear about thsse stories in the news because most people can't do it and when one does, it makes for a feel good story.

So because you can't hack it, the government needs to force someone else to pay your medical bills?

Nah. We should just let them die.

(07-08-2012 08:54 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-07-2012 11:37 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(07-07-2012 10:34 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-06-2012 12:16 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(07-04-2012 01:54 AM)RobertN Wrote:  What if that person doesn't have insurance because they can't afford it and/or it is not offered at your place of employment? Is it really their bad choice that caused them to not have insurance? I would like to have health insurance but I would also like to eat and pay my rent. Sure, I could get rid of my internet and a few other things but the fact remains even if I did, I still couldn't afford the insurance.

Build a new skill set and find a new job/make more money.

Sure. No problem,. Just get a new skill set. Why didn't I think of that? Maybe because it requires time and/or money, ehich most poor people have little of especially when many are working 2-3 jobs.

Some people can probably manage it but I doubt there are many that could handle it. You tend to hear about thsse stories in the news because most people can't do it and when one does, it makes for a feel good story.

So because you can't hack it, the government needs to force someone else to pay your medical bills?

Nah. We should just let them die.

Where did I say that? Chairty exists for a reason, though you would rather it be done through force and control.