(06-30-2012 09:10 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Triple A, if Boise and SDSU do not work out, I hope we do this and call it a day.

UConn
Rutgers
Temple
Navy
Central Florida
SMU

Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
East Carolina
South Florida
Houston

I have to say, that line up loses some luster without Boise, BYU, and the whole nationwide aspect. We would be skewered by the TV talking heads for being CUSA 1.0 redux. Only Navy, Temple, Rutgers, and UConn would not be former members. The South division is literally ALL ex-CUSA teams.

Of course that label would still be unfair as it would dismiss all the development that has occurred within those former CUSA programs since 1996. Personally, I still think Boise and SDSU make the Big East jump with BYU getting added later.

(06-30-2012 09:30 AM)BroncoFan78 Wrote:  We definitely have a flair for the dramatic.

Just like a potato in the microwave with out holes in the skin.

(06-30-2012 09:23 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Call me crazy. I still think Boise is coming to the BE.

Not crazy. We're coming.

SBNation?

Let me assure you that there are three people that run te B12:

Deloiss "Satan" Dodds
Mack Brown
Bob Stoopes


Until you get those three to agree to go to 12 you have nothing but chit-chat.

Bob Stoopes once said, "All a conf. Championship game does is knock one conference team out of a major bowl. You can keep the money. Most of us would rather not risk the loss."

Paraphrasing

(06-30-2012 09:53 AM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 09:23 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Call me crazy. I still think Boise is coming to the BE.

Not crazy. We're coming.

Brian Murphy of the Idaho Statesman agrees with us:

Eric Jensen ‏@MrEarwigSr

@murphsturph so tomorrow is the big day. Your prediction?

Brian Murphy ‏@murphsturph

@MrEarwigSr withdraw from mw but don't say where non-football sports are going

(06-30-2012 10:41 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 09:53 AM)BoiseAlum Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 09:23 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Call me crazy. I still think Boise is coming to the BE.

Not crazy. We're coming.

Brian Murphy of the Idaho Statesman agrees with us:

Eric Jensen ‏@MrEarwigSr

@murphsturph so tomorrow is the big day. Your prediction?

Brian Murphy ‏@murphsturph

@MrEarwigSr withdraw from mw but don't say where non-football sports are going

I agree.

Tic-toc time marches on!

I think Boise State will bring the WAC back to life and join them again in non-football sports.

(06-30-2012 11:15 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  I think Boise State will bring the WAC back to life and join them again.

I don't think that is possible not now. Not enough schools with the right sports to keep a conference. You'll be asking smaller schools with stressed budgets already to add sports which won't be financially feasible. In addition, I can see the MW deciding to go to 12 and take NMSU from the WAC and TX St from the Sun Belt. The Sunbelt may take NMSU as a all sports member and that'll still keep the WAC from being a conference. I believe the AD and Presidents have ran through all the scenarios and it was the Big West or staying in the MW. Anything other is too big of a gamble to play with a universities athletic dept.

I don't see the TV revenue difference will be enough to persuade BSU from leaving. We are only talking a few million dollars difference. The details of how the playoffs and major bowls will now be selected have changed a lot of circumstances and the Big East is a conference without a major bowl tie-in and won't have one.

(06-30-2012 08:25 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  I found this today at SB Sportsnation Dallas-Fortworth. Link provided below.

Quote:It turns out, unsurprisingly, that the Big 12 still covets Notre Dame, who is a Big East member for basketball and baseball. It's unlikely that the Fighting Irish would give up football independence, so having Notre Dame as a full-member of the Big 12 seems like something of a pipe dream.

There are only two institutions that make sense for the Big 12, if they're looking to grab a school from the Big East: Louisville, and the incoming Boise State. Louisville would make sense geographically, and Boise State would make a lot more geographic sense in the Big 12 rather than the Big East.

Big 12 Expansion: Potential Big East Targets, Thanks To The College Football Playoff

Boise hasn't withdrawn from the MWC because it's being considered by the Big 12? Dumbest. Blog. Speculation. Ever.

(06-30-2012 11:26 AM)BE Tex Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 11:15 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  I think Boise State will bring the WAC back to life and join them again.

I don't think that is possible not now. Not enough schools with the right sports to keep a conference. You'll be asking smaller schools with stressed budgets already to add sports which won't be financially feasible. In addition, I can see the MW deciding to go to 12 and take NMSU from the WAC and TX St from the Sun Belt. The Sunbelt may take NMSU as a all sports member and that'll still keep the WAC from being a conference. I believe the AD and Presidents have ran through all the scenarios and it was the Big West or staying in the MW. Anything other is too big of a gamble to play with a universities athletic dept.

I don't see the TV revenue difference will be enough to persuade BSU from leaving. We are only talking a few million dollars difference. The details of how the playoffs and major bowls will now be selected have changed a lot of circumstances and the Big East is a conference without a major bowl tie-in and won't have one.

A few million...try like $4 Million Annually per year.

$6 Million just for Football Only as compared to $1.5 Million All Sports with the MWC from media rights deal not to mention the BCS Revenue Share split...the BIG EAST will be below the other Former AQ's but still well ahead of the current Non AQ's.....you are an idiot...sorry, someone had to say it.

Now if Boise State decides to stay...it is their loss

He's not exactly an idiot. He just wants desperately, for some reason, for Boise to stay in the MWC.

(06-30-2012 11:26 AM)BE Tex Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 11:15 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  I think Boise State will bring the WAC back to life and join them again.

I don't think that is possible not now. Not enough schools with the right sports to keep a conference. You'll be asking smaller schools with stressed budgets already to add sports which won't be financially feasible. In addition, I can see the MW deciding to go to 12 and take NMSU from the WAC and TX St from the Sun Belt. The Sunbelt may take NMSU as a all sports member and that'll still keep the WAC from being a conference. I believe the AD and Presidents have ran through all the scenarios and it was the Big West or staying in the MW. Anything other is too big of a gamble to play with a universities athletic dept.

I don't see the TV revenue difference will be enough to persuade BSU from leaving. We are only talking a few million dollars difference. The details of how the playoffs and major bowls will now be selected have changed a lot of circumstances and the Big East is a conference without a major bowl tie-in and won't have one.

The money will be WAY better in the Big East. The exposure will be WAY better in the Big East. And the Bowl line up is WAY better than the Mountain West, unless you really like going 11-1 and playing in the Las Vegas Bowl against the #4 WAC team.

Boise will either buy thier way into the Big West, or if the Big West is too ridiculous, they will go to the Summit or rebuild the WAC. Then the Big East adds BYU and we will have a really good looking western division.

Somehow the fallacy that BE money won't be that good has crept into the collective lexicon.

Please put a giant, donkey-manure-soaked pitchfork in that zaniness!

Every reputable and knowledgeable person with any insight agrees that BE money is gonna be pretty damned sweet...regardless of what happens nationwide.

(06-30-2012 12:17 PM)Cooglius Caeser Wrote:  Somehow the fallacy that BE money won't be that good has crept into the collective lexicon.

Please put a giant, donkey-manure-soaked pitchfork in that zaniness!

Every reputable and knowledgeable person with any insight agrees that BE money is gonna be pretty damned sweet...regardless of what happens nationwide.

SOS also counts in regards to the new BCS System...the MWC has been gutted by the Big XII & Pac 12 along with BYU leaving.

The MWC has a rotton TV Deal that is not ending anytime soon, very poor media markets and a low level of competition with the departures.

The BIG EAST has a decent level of competition, should receive even @ the low end for a Football Only Member 4 times the amount of the current Media Rights Deal of the MWC and a lot better bowl tie-ins.

These school presidents have to look long term. If Boise jumps to the Big East and then Louisville and Cincinnati bolt to the Big 12 or UConn go off to the ACC then this thing would become a full blown disaster for Boise State. Out west there aren't many good options except the PAC-12 and MWC for all-sports. I think San Diego State and Boise State are making a long term mistake. They can't trust Louisville, UCF and Cincinnati to stay put. These schools are on their third conference in 15 years and would jump to a 4th if the Big 12 called. These schools are just loyal to the $$$$. Granted Boise State exacly known for loyalty either after leaving the Big Sky, WAC and MWC in 15 years. Gotta feel bad for Memphis, Temple, Houston and SMU they are just wanting to be part of the club, but if some of these schools bolts the club will burn down and they are left with no options.

Murphy's latest tweet, a few minutes ago:

Brian Murphy ‏@murphsturph

In addition to Mountain West, Boise State also has to inform league members with written notice. Still think Broncos go today.

(06-30-2012 12:41 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote:  These school presidents have to look long term. If Boise jumps to the Big East and then Louisville and Cincinnati bolt to the Big 12 or UConn go off to the ACC then this thing would become a full blown disaster for Boise State. Out west there aren't many good options except the PAC-12 and MWC for all-sports. I think San Diego State and Boise State are making a long term mistake. They can't trust Louisville, UCF and Cincinnati to stay put. These schools are on their third conference in 15 years and would jump to a 4th if the Big 12 called. These schools are just loyal to the $$$$. Granted Boise State exacly known for loyalty either after leaving the Big Sky, WAC and MWC in 15 years. Gotta feel bad for Memphis, Temple, Houston and SMU they are just wanting to be part of the club, but if some of these schools bolts the club will burn down and they are left with no options.

Right, like the MWC is so much more stable than the BE.

(06-30-2012 12:44 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Murphy's latest tweet, a few minutes ago:

Brian Murphy ‏@murphsturph

In addition to Mountain West, Boise State also has to inform league members with written notice. Still think Broncos go today.

Can you say "Electronic Pen"/"Fax Machine"...whatever...lol.

We will know something by the end of the day and then maybe not. The only thing today decides is the payout whether they stay or go.

(06-30-2012 12:46 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-30-2012 12:41 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote:  These school presidents have to look long term. If Boise jumps to the Big East and then Louisville and Cincinnati bolt to the Big 12 or UConn go off to the ACC then this thing would become a full blown disaster for Boise State. Out west there aren't many good options except the PAC-12 and MWC for all-sports. I think San Diego State and Boise State are making a long term mistake. They can't trust Louisville, UCF and Cincinnati to stay put. These schools are on their third conference in 15 years and would jump to a 4th if the Big 12 called. These schools are just loyal to the $$$$. Granted Boise State exacly known for loyalty either after leaving the Big Sky, WAC and MWC in 15 years. Gotta feel bad for Memphis, Temple, Houston and SMU they are just wanting to be part of the club, but if some of these schools bolts the club will burn down and they are left with no options.

Right, like the MWC is so much more stable than the BE.

Dam near nobody can be trusted to stay put, including Boise (they are supposed to split for the Big East).