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Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
http://espn.go.com/chicago/ncf/story/_/i...every-team
Quote:"We want it to be big enough so that every football team, all 121 FBS schools, are viewed," Swarbrick said on "The Carmen, Jurko & Harry Show" on ESPN 1000. "There's somebody who's actually spent the time having watched some games and understand them.
Quote:"One of the things we like so much about that is as much as this happened in basketball in the past decade, the selection committee will send a real message about strength of schedule," Swarbrick said. "If you choose not to challenge yourself, especially in the pre-conference games, it's going to impact your rating. That's another way we think we're contributing to the vibrancy of the regular season through this process."
Hopefully, it means teams that schedule nothing but cream puffs pre-conference will be punished. Teams that play 8 games at home while never leaving its home state for marquee games will be punished as well. The only thing I want to see out of this thing is the committee needs to minimize media perception and hype.
People that continue to support the college football apartheid system should not play a part in the selection committee. Perhaps there is some hope.
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06-28-2012 12:34 PM |
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
I find it hard to believe the SEC will be "punished" for scheduling cream puffs.
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06-28-2012 12:38 PM |
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
They keep bringing the SOS thing up like it has some magical connotation for everyone, but in reality it's for one team to justify their access to a playoff, Notre Dame, the rest will be measured by their conference (and whether they won it). If the best schools really do start scheduling each other OOC, then the only schools that get hurt are the next tier down, they will subsequently get shut out of any playoffs because none of the big schools would schedule them (thus killing their SOS). That tier would be most schools in the Big East and ACC as well as the top 2-3 teams in MWC and C-USA (both of whom are DOA simply because of the bottom-feeders in their conferences).
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06-28-2012 12:48 PM |
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
(06-28-2012 12:38 PM)darkdragon99 Wrote: I find it hard to believe the SEC will be "punished" for scheduling cream puffs.
They won't. SOS is code for "5 power conferences plus ND get the benefit of the doubt". In the SOS rankings last year, the top 15 teams were ALL from the SEC or Big 12.
It's circular. If OOC SOS is truly going to emphasized in the manner that Swarbrick is saying (and there's such rich irony that the AD of a football team isn't a member of any conference talking about the importance of "pre-conference games") and power teams stop scheduling cupcakes, then how the heck do those cupcakes improve their SOS? In fact, why would power teams play anyone other than other power teams? That would effectively encourage an even further apartheid (or however people want to characterize it) in college football.
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
All of the Big 5 could schedule the biggest pastsies in the country OOC and nobody will say boo. The committee will say they had to play a meat-grinder conference schedule which bosted their SOS. Meanwhile, the Big East wil be penalized for playing its own conference mates. In turn, the BE will find it tough to schedule quality OOC opposition, thus having no real opportunity to improving their SOS.
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06-28-2012 01:09 PM |
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
(06-28-2012 01:09 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: All of the Big 5 could schedule the biggest pastsies in the country OOC and nobody will say boo. The committee will say they had to play a meat-grinder conference schedule which bosted their SOS. Meanwhile, the Big East wil be penalized for playing its own conference mates. In turn, the BE will find it tough to schedule quality OOC opposition, thus having no real opportunity to improving their SOS.
Purdue did cancel 2 games with UC, (After Nebraska joined) and surely will fill those slots with MAC teams (they want to be bowl eligible). So I can see some teams in some conferences not scheduling strong OOC.
Some Big Ten teams, (like SEC) open with 4-5 consecutive home games,
a 1AA then 3 MAC teams then a home conference game.
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06-28-2012 01:16 PM |
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
(06-28-2012 01:16 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (06-28-2012 01:09 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: All of the Big 5 could schedule the biggest pastsies in the country OOC and nobody will say boo. The committee will say they had to play a meat-grinder conference schedule which bosted their SOS. Meanwhile, the Big East wil be penalized for playing its own conference mates. In turn, the BE will find it tough to schedule quality OOC opposition, thus having no real opportunity to improving their SOS.
Purdue did cancel 2 games with UC, (After Nebraska joined) and surely will fill those slots with MAC teams (they want to be bowl eligible). So I can see some teams in some conferences not scheduling strong OOC.
Some Big Ten teams, (like SEC) open with 4-5 consecutive home games,
a 1AA then 3 MAC teams then a home conference game.
One thing of course is that it will impact teams that get to big games purely on reputation. Hopefully, the committee will be smart enough to reward teams that actually get out of its comfort zone and play some road games.
At minimal, I hope it will create more interesting match ups vs. Florida scoring 60 on some hapless Sunbelt team.
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
Michigan's AD has gone one record saying he doesn't see any reason for Michigan to play a road game OOC ever again under his watch...
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06-28-2012 01:44 PM |
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
(06-28-2012 01:44 PM)k5james Wrote: Michigan's AD has gone one record saying he doesn't see any reason for Michigan to play a road game OOC ever again under his watch...
Well good. That means if another team from another conference played and won OOC against good opponents, Michigan will be left out of the playoff. Power conference basketball teams have been left out of the tournament due to questionable scheduling, there is hope same thing will happen in football too.
There are talks football committee will be like the basketball committee. Until they set on the committee, it is crazy for all of us to keep wild guessing the whole thing.
BTW, Michigan will be playing at UCONN in 2013 on a 1-to-1. UCONN isn't changing a thing for Michigan. Tennessee is also coming for a 1-on-1 too.
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
(06-28-2012 01:44 PM)k5james Wrote: Michigan's AD has gone one record saying he doesn't see any reason for Michigan to play a road game OOC ever again under his watch...
Not surprised at all, they don't need to when you have 100,000 for a home game. MSU schedules like this, so does Wisconsin (especially after getting beat by UC and Fresno). OSU same deal OOC @Home. Indiana might consider doing this after losing @North Texas last year Always exceptions like every 4 years do a road OOC game.
Some BIG teams do travel to MAC venues, 2-1's, 3-1's etc.
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
(06-28-2012 12:38 PM)darkdragon99 Wrote: I find it hard to believe the SEC will be "punished" for scheduling cream puffs.
As I think it was Tom Lemming that noted (paraphrase): Look for more teams to play cupcake non-conf schedules...as its much easier to convince a biased selection committee in your corner to sell your program after a great season vs having with an extra loss or two.
Most teams would probably take their chances going 13-0 or 12-1 with easy non-conf schedule vs going 10-2 or 11-2 and try to sell "but we played tough non-conf games and lost them".
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
There is no way in hell that a 13-0 SEC team is going to get left our of a 4 team playoff. Therefore, some SEC schools might soften their schedule.
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06-28-2012 04:10 PM |
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
(06-28-2012 01:44 PM)k5james Wrote: Michigan's AD has gone one record saying he doesn't see any reason for Michigan to play a road game OOC ever again under his watch...
Yet they just announced that they are making a trip to Utah and Colorado while still traveling to ND every other year after a two year break...
http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/s...12aab.html
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
(06-28-2012 01:44 PM)k5james Wrote: Michigan's AD has gone one record saying he doesn't see any reason for Michigan to play a road game OOC ever again under his watch...
Reason #79 to hate the Big 10.
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
(06-28-2012 12:38 PM)darkdragon99 Wrote: I find it hard to believe the SEC will be "punished" for scheduling cream puffs.
They will. Alabama's OOC schedule was inexcusable. They were just clearly the best team in the country last year.
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
(06-28-2012 04:10 PM)3601 Wrote: There is no way in hell that a 13-0 SEC team is going to get left our of a 4 team playoff. Therefore, some SEC schools might soften their schedule.
LOL how can any SEC team soften their schedule any less? Do you mean they will start playing High School teams?
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
(06-28-2012 04:19 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote: (06-28-2012 01:44 PM)k5james Wrote: Michigan's AD has gone one record saying he doesn't see any reason for Michigan to play a road game OOC ever again under his watch...
Yet they just announced that they are making a trip to Utah and Colorado while still traveling to ND every other year after a two year break...
http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/s...12aab.html
They had no choice. Those games are part of the agreement between the B1G and PAC12 to play each other OOC every year.
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
(06-28-2012 11:06 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (06-28-2012 04:10 PM)3601 Wrote: There is no way in hell that a 13-0 SEC team is going to get left our of a 4 team playoff. Therefore, some SEC schools might soften their schedule.
LOL how can any SEC team soften their schedule any less? Do you mean they will start playing High School teams?
SEC teams were ranked 1,3, 5 6, 11 and 15 in sos in 2011. Try again. It's probably easy to sit up in New England and make ingorant statements, but if you actually watch college football or do the research you then will realize how wrong you are.
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2011/Internet/t...s_cumm.pdf
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
(06-29-2012 12:09 AM)3601 Wrote: (06-28-2012 11:06 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (06-28-2012 04:10 PM)3601 Wrote: There is no way in hell that a 13-0 SEC team is going to get left our of a 4 team playoff. Therefore, some SEC schools might soften their schedule.
LOL how can any SEC team soften their schedule any less? Do you mean they will start playing High School teams?
SEC teams were ranked 1,3, 5 6, 11 and 15 in sos in 2011. Try again.
Well, it helps that:
1) Many SEC teams go 4-0 or 3-1 in non-conf schedules since a majority of those games are against lesser teams and most of them take place on their home fields.
2) SEC teams are ranked HIGH in pre-season polls and even in COMPUTER polls prior to even playing a game...which the Committee said they would not pay any attention to (but it will be almost next to impossible to ignore) and would have no relevance in their selection.
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RE: Strength of Schedule OOC will be a Big Factor
(06-29-2012 12:09 AM)3601 Wrote: (06-28-2012 11:06 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: (06-28-2012 04:10 PM)3601 Wrote: There is no way in hell that a 13-0 SEC team is going to get left our of a 4 team playoff. Therefore, some SEC schools might soften their schedule.
LOL how can any SEC team soften their schedule any less? Do you mean they will start playing High School teams?
SEC teams were ranked 1,3, 5 6, 11 and 15 in sos in 2011. Try again. It's probably easy to sit up in New England and make ingorant statements, but if you actually watch college football or do the research you then will realize how wrong you are.
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2011/Internet/t...s_cumm.pdf
Southwest Ohio= New England?
If so, Memphis=Rio Grande Valley...
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