http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/25/...t_melting/

Quote:Twenty-year-old models which have suggested serious ice loss in the eastern Antarctic have been compared with reality for the first time - and found to be wrong, so much so that it now appears that no ice is being lost at all.

That was a close one.

From AGU

Quote:It turns out that past studies, which were based on computer models without any direct data for comparison or guidance,

Now that's funny.

Especially in light of the quote from our resident imbecile du jour

Quote:How often does scientific consensus reach 97-98% and turn out to be disproven? Especially in the last century and the computer age?

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=572...pid7943104

(06-27-2012 05:33 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

Quote:How often does scientific consensus reach 97-98% and turn out to be disproven? Especially in the last century and the computer age?

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=572...pid7943104

The answer to his question is: fraud and willful ignorance.

Hey moron, what's happening on the other side of Antarctica?

Thinning Ice Sheets.... Massive Melt

THE GIST

A satellite survey of Antarctica shows at least 20 out of 54 observed platforms of ice have melted largely due to warming oceans below.

Floating ice sheets act as a brake against the loss of Antarctica's land-bound rivers of ice, or glaciers.

As these shelves melt away due to warming waters — mostly in West Antarctica — glaciers have begun to spill more and more ice into the seas.



You can always count on Torchy to not know what the **** is going on.

(06-27-2012 06:28 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  Hey moron, what's happening on the other side of Antarctica?

Thinning Ice Sheets.... Massive Melt

THE GIST

A satellite survey of Antarctica shows at least 20 out of 54 observed platforms of ice have melted largely due to warming oceans below.

Floating ice sheets act as a brake against the loss of Antarctica's land-bound rivers of ice, or glaciers.

As these shelves melt away due to warming waters — mostly in West Antarctica — glaciers have begun to spill more and more ice into the seas.



You can always count on Torchy to not know what the **** is going on.

Sad proof that public education fails to teach science. But clear evidence that umgrad has no understanding of what AGW is about.

I will give him this, where I am it's much warmer than 6 mos ago. :)

(06-27-2012 06:56 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 06:28 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  Hey moron, what's happening on the other side of Antarctica?

Thinning Ice Sheets.... Massive Melt

THE GIST

A satellite survey of Antarctica shows at least 20 out of 54 observed platforms of ice have melted largely due to warming oceans below.

Floating ice sheets act as a brake against the loss of Antarctica's land-bound rivers of ice, or glaciers.

As these shelves melt away due to warming waters — mostly in West Antarctica — glaciers have begun to spill more and more ice into the seas.



You can always count on Torchy to not know what the **** is going on.

Sad proof that public education fails to teach science. But clear evidence that umgrad has no understanding of what AGW is about.

I will give him this, where I am it's much warmer than 6 mos ago. :)

Your non-response makes it clear that you don't have a ******* clue. In fact, pretty much every post you've ever made makes that clear.

Do we call it global warming or climate change now? Ehhh Undergrad

(06-27-2012 07:15 PM)maximus Wrote:  Do we call it global warming or climate change now? Ehhh Undergrad

Why do you think it matters?

Oh it matters

(06-27-2012 07:02 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 06:56 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 06:28 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  Hey moron, what's happening on the other side of Antarctica?

Thinning Ice Sheets.... Massive Melt

THE GIST

A satellite survey of Antarctica shows at least 20 out of 54 observed platforms of ice have melted largely due to warming oceans below.

Floating ice sheets act as a brake against the loss of Antarctica's land-bound rivers of ice, or glaciers.

As these shelves melt away due to warming waters — mostly in West Antarctica — glaciers have begun to spill more and more ice into the seas.



You can always count on Torchy to not know what the **** is going on.

Sad proof that public education fails to teach science. But clear evidence that umgrad has no understanding of what AGW is about.

I will give him this, where I am it's much warmer than 6 mos ago. :)

Your non-response makes it clear that you don't have a ******* clue. In fact, pretty much every post you've ever made makes that clear.

No response is the only appropriate response. AGU is conceding that climate change models are wrong, all based on empirical science. You bring up irrelevant issues, and expect a response. That's what ignorant, superstitious people do.

Your B in Earth Science is just grade inflation.

(06-27-2012 07:30 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 07:15 PM)maximus Wrote:  Do we call it global warming or climate change now? Ehhh Undergrad

Why do you think it matters?

Ummmmm because climate constantly changes... Climate change is a natural occurance, global warming is a term often used to describe mans exaggerated influence on climate change. Yes 6 billion people contribute to climate change, but have a small impact in the overall picture.

Why is it that I don't really give a sh!t one way or the other?

(06-27-2012 05:33 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/25/...t_melting/

Quote:Twenty-year-old models which have suggested serious ice loss in the eastern Antarctic have been compared with reality for the first time - and found to be wrong, so much so that it now appears that no ice is being lost at all.

That was a close one.

From AGU

Quote:It turns out that past studies, which were based on computer models without any direct data for comparison or guidance,

Now that's funny.

Especially in light of the quote from our resident imbecile du jour

Quote:How often does scientific consensus reach 97-98% and turn out to be disproven? Especially in the last century and the computer age?

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=572...pid7943104

Your brain melted a long time ago.

(06-27-2012 06:56 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(06-27-2012 06:28 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  Hey moron, what's happening on the other side of Antarctica?

Thinning Ice Sheets.... Massive Melt

THE GIST

A satellite survey of Antarctica shows at least 20 out of 54 observed platforms of ice have melted largely due to warming oceans below.

Floating ice sheets act as a brake against the loss of Antarctica's land-bound rivers of ice, or glaciers.

As these shelves melt away due to warming waters — mostly in West Antarctica — glaciers have begun to spill more and more ice into the seas.



You can always count on Torchy to not know what the **** is going on.

Sad proof that public education fails to teach science. But clear evidence that umgrad has no understanding of what AGW is about.

I will give him this, where I am it's much warmer than 6 mos ago. :)

Please tell us oh wise one, what is AGW all about?

I think Um doesn't understand the word "shift." I also think he doesn't understand the ice caps have moved since the beginning of time...

Some don't consider the whole picture when reading their alphabet network news, and then call everyone else "idiot" and "moron" because they are so insecure about their own intelligence.

(06-28-2012 07:15 AM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  I think Um doesn't understand the word "shift." I also think he doesn't understand the ice caps have moved since the beginning of time...

Some don't consider the whole picture when reading their alphabet network news, and then call everyone else "idiot" and "moron" because they are so insecure about their own intelligence.

No, I call people like you an idiot and a moron because you're an idiot and a moron. It's not that I did or didn't consider a polar shift or whatever else dumb*** idea you can come up with, your argument would be that the PhDs who have spent their entire careers studying this sort of thing didn't consider those things. So you think you know more about the subject than they do. Since apparently you've solved the problem for those thousands of highly educated experts, why don't you call them up and tell them they can relax and go on vacation. You've got it covered. Again, you're an idiot.

Saw a headline a day or two ago that said sea levels are rising faster on the west coast. It was so absurd, I didn't bother reading the article. Sure some here would believe.

(06-28-2012 07:38 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  No, I call people like you an idiot and a moron because you're an idiot and a moron. It's not that I did or didn't consider a polar shift or whatever else dumb*** idea you can come up with, your argument would be that the PhDs who have spent their entire careers studying this sort of thing didn't consider those things. So you think you know more about the subject than they do. Since apparently you've solved the problem for those thousands of highly educated experts, why don't you call them up and tell them they can relax and go on vacation. You've got it covered. Again, you're an idiot.

Bet you didn't know Old Dominion has one of the best Oceanography programs in the country? You don't even know what I'm an expert in, and until you do you can just rest assured that I am very well versed in everything that heats, or cools, or moves.

(06-28-2012 08:02 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Saw a headline a day or two ago that said sea levels are rising faster on the west coast. It was so absurd, I didn't bother reading the article. Sure some here would believe.

Funny, I read an article that said that sea levels on the east coast (New York specifically) were rising at an "alarming" rate. Much higher than "scientist's" had predicted. I used to think water dispersed. I didn't realize it was drawn to specific areas.

(06-28-2012 08:30 AM)JerryJeff Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 08:02 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Saw a headline a day or two ago that said sea levels are rising faster on the west coast. It was so absurd, I didn't bother reading the article. Sure some here would believe.

Funny, I read an article that said that sea levels on the east coast (New York specifically) were rising at an "alarming" rate. Much higher than "scientist's" had predicted. I used to think water dispersed. I didn't realize it was drawn to specific areas.

When people start overpopulating a region, it pushes the land mass down, causing the water to rise on the coastal areas. On an island, you're really screwed. You could, inadvertently, flip it over.

(06-28-2012 08:39 AM)Rebel Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 08:30 AM)JerryJeff Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 08:02 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Saw a headline a day or two ago that said sea levels are rising faster on the west coast. It was so absurd, I didn't bother reading the article. Sure some here would believe.

Funny, I read an article that said that sea levels on the east coast (New York specifically) were rising at an "alarming" rate. Much higher than "scientist's" had predicted. I used to think water dispersed. I didn't realize it was drawn to specific areas.

When people start overpopulating a region, it pushes the land mass down, causing the water to rise on the coastal areas. On an island, you're really screwed. You could, inadvertently, flip it over.

Now that's scary! Heck, I think I remember an esteemed congressman raising the alarm on that very issue! Ahead of his time I guess.