gomemphistigers1 Wrote:i would agree that ECU would be a good addition...East coast and a primed tv market waiting to be tapped...

That TV market is dominated by the ACC. There's nothing for the Big East to tap into in eastern North Carolina that the ACC hasn't already tapped and dominated.

bigbadcat Wrote:These redneck Herd fans are so jealous of WVU and the Big East it would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. They just need to face the fact that they are not in a BCS league and most likely never will be. If the Big East needs more schools it will be Memphis. That's where it will stop. Marshall will not get an invite. Both Marshall football and basketball are on probation at THE SAME TIME! That has to be a record. Thank god we are leaving CUSA! The dregs they have brought in have turned into a west texas bus league.

I always get a chuckle about probation slams. Especially when it comes from one of the top sanctioned schools in the NCAA.

[QUOTE]Matching Major Infraction Cases

Matching Major Infraction Cases


Sel Date Institution Facts Summary
Nov 05, 1998
University of Cincinnati Recruiting, extra benefits, unethical conduct, and lack of institutional control and failure to monitor.

Nov 03, 1988
University of Cincinnati Improper financial aid; lack of institutional control; improper recruiting and entertainment; extra benefits; out-of-season conditioning.

Dec 29, 1978
University of Cincinnati Improper financial aid; extra benefits; out-of-season practice; improper recruiting entertainment, inducements and transportation; tryouts; excessive number of official visits; improper administration of financial aid; questionable practice; institutional control; certification of compliance.

Apr 29, 1959
University of Cincinnati Improper financial aid; improper recruiting inducements.

Jan 10, 1956
University of Cincinnati Improper employment; improper recruiting inducement and transportation; tryouts

Heck man, you guys finally found something you can do better than Marshall. Cheat.

Marshall fan, looks like you'll have to be content to play the NBE champ in that 5th BCS bowl.

UC hasn't has the proud distinction of having both basketball and football on probation at the same time like Marshall! :laugh:

Intimidate, Dominate, Celebrate Wrote:And Memphis is that good? UC and Lousiville doesn't bring stability in all sports? What great tradition does Memphis basketball have? Penny Hardaway and one final four? Your program is mediocre at best. THe Big East already is one helluva conference. It's sour grapes, that's all.

Actually, 2 final fours including 1 championship game (a loss to UCLA during their prime).

Players (off the top of my head):
Penny
Lorenzen Wright
Elliot Perry
Dejuan Wagner

Plus a pretty damn good assortment of football players:
Issac Bruce
Wade Smith (the only starting OL the Dolphins kept from last year's team)
Mike McKenzie
...and whole bunch of DB's that I'm having problems recalling right now...

As far as recent traditions, Louisville isn't any better than Memphis. Cincy has performed much better than UL and UM over the past ten years and would have had a championship if Kenyon Martin hadn't broken his leg.

But Louisville's 2 championships we quite some time ago by sports standards, and Cincy's 2 championships date back to the 50's or 60's.

Overall, I think you'd find mixed feelings from Memphis fans over the Big East. They'd be excited about the BCS and basketball in the BE. They'd be less excited about travel in the BE than in "C-All over the place"

bigbadcat Wrote:UC hasn't has the proud distinction of having both basketball and football on probation at the same time like Marshall! :laugh:

No, you're right. You only have the distinction of getting slapped for a lack of institutional control five different times.

And your pattern is getting ready to come around again:

1978
1988
1998

2008 isn't too far away bucky.

Quote:Marshall fan, looks like you'll have to be content to play the NBE champ in that 5th BCS bowl.

It won't bother me any. But you'll have to be content with sitting home on New Years, Bing.

99Tiger Wrote:

Intimidate Wrote:And Memphis is that good?  UC and Lousiville doesn't bring stability in all sports?    What great tradition does Memphis basketball have?  Penny Hardaway and one final four?  Your program is mediocre at best.  THe Big East already is one helluva conference.  It's sour grapes, that's all.

Actually, 2 final fours including 1 championship game (a loss to UCLA during their prime).

Players (off the top of my head):
Penny
Lorenzen Wright
Elliot Perry
Dejuan Wagner

Plus a pretty damn good assortment of football players:
Issac Bruce
Wade Smith (the only starting OL the Dolphins kept from last year's team)
Mike McKenzie
...and whole bunch of DB's that I'm having problems recalling right now...

As far as recent traditions, Louisville isn't any better than Memphis. Cincy has performed much better than UL and UM over the past ten years and would have had a championship if Kenyon Martin hadn't broken his leg.

But Louisville's 2 championships we quite some time ago by sports standards, and Cincy's 2 championships date back to the 50's or 60's.

Overall, I think you'd find mixed feelings from Memphis fans over the Big East. They'd be excited about the BCS and basketball in the BE. They'd be less excited about travel in the BE than in "C-All over the place"

How come everone tries to rip Louisville down to make themselves look better? Christ.

Here's a list of recent Louisville football players who happen to be pro-bowlers for the most part:
David Akers
Ted Washington
Joe Johnson
Ray Buchanan
Sam Madison
Dion Branch

Here's a a few old-timers off the top of my head:
Lenny Lyles
Ernest Givens
Johnny Unitas
Tom Jackson (ESPN)

Come on guys, don't try to rip us just because we've had a few years of football success. The success has been spread over the past 15 seasons the exceptions being the cooper years, other than that disaster we've been quite successful.

As far as being no better than Memphis. Come on guy! Jeeze. If our head to head record isn't enough- last football season you beat us for the second time in over a decade. I don't see a fiesta bowl or liberty bowl trophies in your case and I don't see very many winning seasons or championship rings on your fingers. Lets get real. I want you guys in the conference but you're starting to sound a bit like most EVERY CUSA fan who can't come to grips with reality.

edit: holy smokes, I just realized you were calling our football titles outdated. I thought you were talking about our basketball NCAA titles from the 80s! The football titles were 2 seasons ago!!!!!! wow.

Memphis? No!
Temple? YES!
Marshall? maybe.

A REAL Big East Conference

Pittsburgh
Syracuse
West Virginia
Connecticut
Rutgers
Cincinnati
Louisville
Temple

Expansion Teams: Notre Dame, Penn State

Note: Memphis is too southern. USF is a mistake.

Quote:How come everone tries to rip Louisville down to make themselves look better? Christ.

god has nothing to do with it L.

Quote:David Akers

kickers don't count...the rest are cool.

Quote:Johnny Unitas

he was one heck of a football player...

Quote:Come on guys, don't try to rip us just because we've had a few years of football success.

he wasn't talking about football...but overall.

Quote:If our head to head record isn't enough

UL and Memphis are 20-19 all time in favor of UL...something (37-7) tells me it will be 20-20 by the end of next season...meaning were even.

Quote:As far as being no better than Memphis. Come on guy! Jeeze.

Football Record...20-19
Basketball Record...34-49

and seeing as we started 2-13 against UL our recent history...lets say 84'-04' is 18-14 advantage memphis...Memphis, Louisville and Cincy are all right on the same level...which is why many UofM fans are upset we wern't invited to the BEast...and why we have been conference mates for so long...we are all about the same...and i will miss the rivalry...it just won't be the same anymore.

Quote:And Memphis is that good? UC and Lousiville doesn't bring stability in all sports? What great tradition does Memphis basketball have? Penny Hardaway and one final four? Your program is mediocre at best. THe Big East already is one helluva conference. It's sour grapes, that's all.

what i ment was by adding memphis if well help to offset the name power leaving in Miami, VT, BC...i'm not saying were that good or whatever you think i ment.

yes UC and UL bring stability...once again...i wasn't implying they didn't...just that we could add too it.

what tradition do we have...a lot...i'm not in the mood to retype our media guide...but we have plenty thanks.

no...i'm not sour...actually i'm excited about the C-USA...people thought it would fold...and now it is poised to thrive...and yes...so is the BEast...i have no illwill for your teams...just dissapointed we didn't get an invite.

Quote:Penny Hardaway and one final four? Your program is mediocre at best.

2 final 4's...Penny Hardaway, Elliot Perry, Lary Finch, Ronnie Robinson, Wagner...so on and so forth...and your calling me sour. :rolleyes:

look...i just think we have a good program...even if you don't

i think we can bring a lot to the Big East and i hope we get our chance...it really bothers me were losing such a great pair of rivals...good luck.

Go Tigers!!!
Drew

L-yes Wrote:edit: holy smokes, I just realized you were calling our football titles outdated. I thought you were talking about our basketball NCAA titles from the 80s! The football titles were 2 seasons ago!!!!!! wow.

Actually, I was talking about your basketball titles.

99Tiger Wrote:

herd of butt whoopin beef Wrote:actually, it is either the 3rd for 4th ranked team, the 5th ranked team plays in the new orleans bowl.  i do believe that when we played louisville and cincinatti in the motor city bowls, those teams were ranked 2 and 3 respectively. east carolina was 3 or 4, can't remember the exact and louisville at the GMAC bowl was 3 or 4.  remember, i am talking about the upper echelon of the conference, not the top dog.  you could be right about the L-bowl and memphis, so we will try our best, good luck to ya.

Currently:
Liberty Bowl gets 1st pick (obviously)
GMAC Bowl gets 2nd pick
New Orleans Bowl gets 3rd pick
Hawaii/Fart Worth get 4th and 5th picks (I neither know nor care about the order)

they don't necessarily pick based on the final conference ranking of the teams. case in point, louisville played in the GMAC bowl in 2002, they were not the 2nd team in the conference. they got picked because the bowl committee wanted to see a show down between byron leftwich and dave ragone.