Well, from this person's perspective, Boise State is a bunch of certified badasses that we need in the conference for a myriad of reasons...and the sooner the better.

I would not want to lose Boise. I think they have done a great job at putting their name up there nationally and it would bing attention to the league.

Boise would a big a loss as TCU and West Virginia were.

Boise is the only thing making the new Big East a better FB conference than C-USA circa 2003/2004.

Fact.

(06-24-2012 11:03 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Boise would a big a loss as TCU and West Virginia were.

1. The Big East never really had TCU.
2. Boise more than makes up for the WVU loss.

(06-24-2012 11:38 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:03 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Boise would a big a loss as TCU and West Virginia were.

1. The Big East never really had TCU.
2. Boise more than makes up for the WVU loss.

I beg to differ. This would be the Big East if TCU and West Virginia had stayed.

UConn
Rutgers
Temple
Navy
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
East Carolina
Central Florida
South Florida
Houston
SMU
TCU

(06-24-2012 12:11 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:38 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:03 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Boise would a big a loss as TCU and West Virginia were.

1. The Big East never really had TCU.
2. Boise more than makes up for the WVU loss.

I beg to differ. This would be the Big East if TCU and West Virginia had stayed.

UConn
Rutgers
Temple
Navy
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
Central Florida
South Florida
Houston
SMU

You might want to include TCU in that

(06-24-2012 12:24 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 12:11 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:38 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:03 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Boise would a big a loss as TCU and West Virginia were.

1. The Big East never really had TCU.
2. Boise more than makes up for the WVU loss.

I beg to differ. This would be the Big East if TCU and West Virginia had stayed.

UConn
Rutgers
Temple
Navy
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis TCU
Central Florida
South Florida
Houston
SMU

You might want to include TCU in that

That's more accurate. I'm glad TCU reneged.

(06-24-2012 12:11 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:38 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:03 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Boise would a big a loss as TCU and West Virginia were.

1. The Big East never really had TCU.
2. Boise more than makes up for the WVU loss.

I beg to differ. This would be the Big East if TCU and West Virginia had stayed.

UConn
Rutgers
Temple
Navy
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
Central Florida
South Florida
Houston
SMU

I will do you one better Wilkie...a BIG EAST with no defections:

UConn
Rutgers
Temple
Syracuse
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
TCU
Central Florida
South Florida
Houston
Pittsburgh

BIG EAST
North Division
West Virginia
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
UConn
Rutgers
Temple

BIG EAST
South Division
Louisville
Cincinnati
TCU
Houston
Central Florida
South Florida

(06-24-2012 12:24 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 12:11 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:38 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:03 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Boise would a big a loss as TCU and West Virginia were.

1. The Big East never really had TCU.
2. Boise more than makes up for the WVU loss.

I beg to differ. This would be the Big East if TCU and West Virginia had stayed.

UConn
Rutgers
Temple
Navy
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
Central Florida
South Florida
Houston
SMU

You might want to include TCU in that

Ok I did. I got distracted and I meant for ECU to be there also. That gives us 14.

(06-24-2012 01:43 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 12:11 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:38 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:03 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Boise would a big a loss as TCU and West Virginia were.

1. The Big East never really had TCU.
2. Boise more than makes up for the WVU loss.

I beg to differ. This would be the Big East if TCU and West Virginia had stayed.

UConn
Rutgers
Temple
Navy
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
Central Florida
South Florida
Houston
SMU

I will do you one better Wilkie...a BIG EAST with no defections:

UConn
Rutgers
Temple
Syracuse
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
TCU
Central Florida
South Florida
Houston
Pittsburgh

BIG EAST
North Division
West Virginia
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
UConn
Rutgers
Temple

BIG EAST
South Division
Louisville
Cincinnati
TCU
Houston
Central Florida
South Florida

That would be awesome.

That conference would still be one of the 6 power conferences.

That conference would still be one of the 6 power conferences.

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If "ifs" and "buts" were candy & nuts... That is not in the "cards" (no pun intended), and this talk of being cavalier about losing/ ditching either BSU or SDSU is not healthy or wise, IMO.

We can talk about contingencies if/ when needed, but we need a strong commissioner quickly as badly as we need aother BSU affirmation to stay the course.

(06-24-2012 02:18 PM)CougarTruth Wrote:  That conference would still be one of the 6 power conferences.

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If "ifs" and "buts" were candy & nuts... That is not in the "cards" (no pun intended), and this talk of being cavalier about losing/ ditching either BSU or SDSU is not healthy or wise, IMO.

We can talk about contingencies if/ when needed, but we need a strong commissioner quickly as badly as we need aother BSU affirmation to stay the course.

True. We still can be if we can hold this thing together, get BYU, and play to our potential. It can be won on the field of play. We just need to to do it.

(06-24-2012 12:11 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:38 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:03 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Boise would a big a loss as TCU and West Virginia were.

1. The Big East never really had TCU.
2. Boise more than makes up for the WVU loss.

I beg to differ. This would be the Big East if TCU and West Virginia had stayed.

UConn
Rutgers
Temple
Navy
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
East Carolina
Central Florida
South Florida
Houston
SMU
TCU

If the queen had testicles then she'd be king.

(06-24-2012 12:11 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:38 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:03 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Boise would a big a loss as TCU and West Virginia were.

1. The Big East never really had TCU.
2. Boise more than makes up for the WVU loss.

I beg to differ. This would be the Big East if TCU and West Virginia had stayed.

UConn
Rutgers
Temple
Navy
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
East Carolina
Central Florida
South Florida
Houston
SMU
TCU

You beg do differer on which statement?

(06-24-2012 11:38 AM)3601 Wrote:  1. The Big East never really had TCU.

True.

Quote:2. Boise more than makes up for the WVU loss.

Depends upon what you mean.

Does Boise bring better on-the-field records as WVU over the past decade? Yes.

Does Boise have better long-term history, tradition, fan base size and bowl attractiveness than WVU? No. Even if Boise has been better than WVU on-the-field recently (and to be clear, WVU hasn't been a slouch), there is NO comparison about off-the-field value (which is why WVU got invited by the Big 12 despite horrific geography in the first place).

(06-25-2012 09:23 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:38 AM)3601 Wrote:  1. The Big East never really had TCU.

True.

Quote:2. Boise more than makes up for the WVU loss.

Depends upon what you mean.

Does Boise bring better on-the-field records as WVU over the past decade? Yes.

Does Boise have better long-term history, tradition, fan base size and bowl attractiveness than WVU? No. Even if Boise has been better than WVU on-the-field recently (and to be clear, WVU hasn't been a slouch), there is NO comparison about off-the-field value (which is why WVU got invited by the Big 12 despite horrific geography in the first place).

I was talking solely about on field performance.

Boise St is just as attractive to bowls as West Virginia. They travel just as well and bring lots of eyeballs. They brought 35k+ to the Fiesta Bowl against us.

(06-25-2012 09:23 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 11:38 AM)3601 Wrote:  1. The Big East never really had TCU.

True.

Quote:2. Boise more than makes up for the WVU loss.

Depends upon what you mean.

Does Boise bring better on-the-field records as WVU over the past decade? Yes.

Does Boise have better long-term history, tradition, fan base size and bowl attractiveness than WVU? No. Even if Boise has been better than WVU on-the-field recently (and to be clear, WVU hasn't been a slouch), there is NO comparison about off-the-field value (which is why WVU got invited by the Big 12 despite horrific geography in the first place).

Please educate us about the LONG TERM history and tradition of WVU football. Bowl attractiveness? Bowl look at two things... on field performance that year, and fan draw. WVU is NOT a leader in either category. Did they do well in the BE the last few years, sure. But please don't act like WVU is the next Texas or Alabama.