Gosh, seems to be little push back from this administration and our so called U.N. reps. I'm shocked. SHOCKED.

The U.N.'s Internet Power Grab

Quote:The failure by U.S. negotiators to stop attacks on the Internet became known only through documents leaked last week. They concern a U.N. agency known as the International Telecommunications Union. Founded in 1865 to regulate the telegraph, the body (now part of the U.N.) is planning a World Conference on International Telecommunications in December, when the 193 U.N. member countries, each of which has a single vote, could use the International Telecommunications Regulations to take control of the Internet. The U.N. process is mind-numbing, but as Vincent Cerf, one of the founders of the Web, recently told Congress, this U.N. involvement means "the open Internet has never been at a higher risk than it is now."

The process is secret, so it was hard to know what authoritarian governments were plotting or how the U.S. was responding. This column last month detailed some of the proposals, but other commentators doubted that any changes would be material.

Quote: "These proposals show that many ITU member states want to use international agreements to regulate the Internet by crowding out bottom-up institutions, imposing charges for international communication, and controlling the content that consumers can access online."

I smell the usual U.N. ideas at work - a global internet taxing scheme, another way to bring down the U.S. and extract what wealth is left. I get suspicious whenever these things are discussed in secret.

We should get out of the U.N., throw them out of this country, level the building and tell them to butt out of our business. Without our money, the U.N. is weak. Without our muscle, they are a paper tiger, a debating society run by some of the worst tyrants this earth has ever seen.

The UN was a terrible idea. The time has come for the USA to pull their funding and military.

Long overdue to stop funding that shithole

(06-18-2012 12:23 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Gosh, seems to be little push back from this administration and our so called U.N. reps. I'm shocked. SHOCKED.

The U.N.'s Internet Power Grab

Quote:The failure by U.S. negotiators to stop attacks on the Internet became known only through documents leaked last week. They concern a U.N. agency known as the International Telecommunications Union. Founded in 1865 to regulate the telegraph, the body (now part of the U.N.) is planning a World Conference on International Telecommunications in December, when the 193 U.N. member countries, each of which has a single vote, could use the International Telecommunications Regulations to take control of the Internet. The U.N. process is mind-numbing, but as Vincent Cerf, one of the founders of the Web, recently told Congress, this U.N. involvement means "the open Internet has never been at a higher risk than it is now."

The process is secret, so it was hard to know what authoritarian governments were plotting or how the U.S. was responding. This column last month detailed some of the proposals, but other commentators doubted that any changes would be material.

Quote: "These proposals show that many ITU member states want to use international agreements to regulate the Internet by crowding out bottom-up institutions, imposing charges for international communication, and controlling the content that consumers can access online."

I smell the usual U.N. ideas at work - a global internet taxing scheme, another way to bring down the U.S. and extract what wealth is left. I get suspicious whenever these things are discussed in secret.We should get out of the U.N., throw them out of this country, level the building and tell them to butt out of our business. Without our money, the U.N. is weak. Without our muscle, they are a paper tiger, a debating society run by some of the worst tyrants this earth has ever seen.

Russia and Iran propose new rules to measure Internet traffic along national borders and bill the originator of the traffic, as with international phone calls. That would result in new fees to local governments and less access to traffic from U.S. "originating" companies such as Google, Facebook and Apple. A similar idea has the support of European telecommunications companies, even though the Internet's global packet switching makes national tolls an anachronistic idea.

And the article is a little inflammatory in citing "attacks on the internet" when the conference hasn't even happened yet.

(06-18-2012 12:48 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And the article is a little inflammatory in citing "attacks on the internet" when the conference hasn't even happened yet.

Don't read real well, huh? These proposals have been floating around for awhile now and more are being made in advance of the conference.

Quote:Disclosure came when two academics decided to use the openness of the Web to help save the Web. George Mason University researchers Jerry Brito and Eli Dourado earlier this month created a site called WCITLeaks.org. They invited anyone with access to the documents describing the U.N. proposals to post them, so as "to foster greater transparency." These documents are not classified but had not been made public.

The WCITLeaks site hit pay dirt this past Friday. Someone leaked the 212-page planning document being used by governments to prepare for the December conference.

The "attacks on the internet" is a rhetorical device to describe the mindset of those who want to harness it for their own evil purposes. But either you knew that or you are just being a tool. Or maybe your education has failed you.

Shall we start calling you 'Literal Tom?'

What it is with you and your continual need to be a condescending prick? **** you! Geez.

(06-18-2012 02:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  What it is with you and your continual need to be a condescending prick? **** you! Geez.

poor tommy, everyone condescends to him, and he can't understand why.

I trust Sally Struthers to deliver a greater percentage of food rations to needy nations than the abomination known as the UN. Why our tax dollars are used to systematically take away our own sovereignty cannot be by accident. It is a as willful an attempt as the effort by global warming/climate change/ocean acidification/ etc. pundits to get us into a global wealth redistribution scheme. Screw them and the idiotic sheep that follow this cause.