(06-15-2012 01:29 PM)MacLord Wrote:  Do I want the site to become like a clearinghouse of feel good stories out of Alumni magazines? No.

On the other hand, it's not like we are inundated with posts of any sort. So any MAC news is cool with me.

Agreed. But don't be shocked if I crack a joke at their expense every once in a while

Move along folks...nothing to see here.

(06-15-2012 12:35 PM)EA3 Wrote:  It has nothing to do with being equal....or EMU for that matter.

Whether it's a medical school, new buildings, or other projects...it doesn't matter. They belong on the specific boards of each school.

Last time I checked, it's called "College Sports Nation"

The specific threads scream of snobbery and the "hey, look at me" attitude. And if everyone did the same, less people would visit the board

We can spin things just about any way possible. I can totally spin your own post against you. But that's just childish, isn't it?

Let's see here........It's called College Sports Nation. Good things happening on campus affect recruiting, which affects College Sports Nation. :)

And you said they belong on the specific boards of each school, but those specific boards are also part of "College Sports Nation." If it can go on those specific boards than it should be able to go on the main MAC board too.

If we are going to say that good things about individual schools belong on their individual boards, then that goes for bad things too.......and all things for that matter. Next time a football player at a particular MAC school gets arrested or kicked off the team it should not go on the main MAC board then, using your logic. Further, next time something bad happens at Ohio State we better not have a thread about it here on the main MAC board, because Ohio State is an individual school and not even in the MAC.

If posters can't talk about individual school accomplishments, then why even have a main MAC board?

I agree with you that we can spin anything.

You miss the point about the MAC main board and it's content being sports related.

Again, is it a big deal? No. But if you want to continue the debate, fine.

There has yet to be a single comment regarding the original post. Maybe that should be an obvious sign?

The next time something bad happens regarding one of our sports teams, absolutely it should go on the main board. It's sports related! Or Ohio st for that matter...it's sports related and potentially affects 6 of our member schools being in Ohio. So no, you don't understand the logic.

It's called unnecessary pimping. And it's more irritating when people try to defend it with a spin.

I've already spent way too much time on this thread. Have a great evening fellas...and any ladies.

Your last sentence is probably what you should have thought before your first post on this thread. Again, anything like what was posted for this thread and things that Louis Kitten has posted in the past about building upgrades, etc do have an impact in sports.......particularly with recruiting and student fanbase. How student fanbase you ask? Better academic facilities brings in more students, which increases the number of students at a school and ultimately increases the number of students in the school's student section at sporting events.

Realistically, a thread like this doesn't really even need replies.......but it's nice to see them to see how things are going at that MAC school. I personally read the article because it was posted here. Would not have known about it if it was not for this thread. I did not initially reply to the original post though because I had nothing to add, but I was glad it was there to read.

Instead of alienating posters that post threads like these, maybe we should just not reply to the thread with comments about how it doesn't belong to begin with. You might not agree with it, but you don't have to restrict a person's right to talk about it.

Don't sweat it about EA3. I think he just got too much starch in his britches and is protesting.

I have no problem with threads like this especially in the offseason. Nice to know what is happening at other MAC schools.

Read the thread again, start to finish.

DetroitRocket clearly states that he started the thread as a response to a few recent postings. I have no problem with this.

I sparred with LK for a few posts because I called BS about the supposed academic postings.

I further explained my position to HuskieJohn.

Do I feel pimping non athletic issues on the main board is necessary? No

Do I really care if these threads pop up? No

Am I allowed to crack a joke and make light of a situation I find silly? I hope so

Are you taking this a little too seriously?

(06-15-2012 07:25 PM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  Your last sentence is probably what you should have thought before your first post on this thread. Again, anything like what was posted for this thread and things that Louis Kitten has posted in the past about building upgrades, etc do have an impact in sports.......particularly with recruiting and student fanbase. How student fanbase you ask? Better academic facilities brings in more students, which increases the number of students at a school and ultimately increases the number of students in the school's student section at sporting events.

The improved academics comes back around to increase the support for Rocket athletics.

1. The growth of the medical school improves the Toledo economy generally. More high paying jobs lead to more service jobs to support it.

2. Those associated with the medical school will build loyalties to the university which will translate into more high end season ticket holders for Toledo football.

3. The sense of community pride increases and that has a trickle down effect on attending the local team.

4. Medical schools improve the academic image of the MAC making it more likely that an alum will be comfortable shelling out money for MAC football than for a small time conference.

(06-15-2012 07:37 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Don't sweat it about EA3. I think he just got too much starch in his britches and is protesting.

I have no problem with threads like this especially in the offseason. Nice to know what is happening at other MAC schools.

Fair enough. I'm bitter that I'm not chilling at kalamazoo's Island Fest, listening to reggae music and having multiple cocktails tonight.

In all honesty, this subject has been blown way out of proportion...and I'm guilty.

Sorry fellas, didn't know I was heading down this road.

(06-15-2012 08:00 PM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  

(06-15-2012 07:25 PM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  Your last sentence is probably what you should have thought before your first post on this thread. Again, anything like what was posted for this thread and things that Louis Kitten has posted in the past about building upgrades, etc do have an impact in sports.......particularly with recruiting and student fanbase. How student fanbase you ask? Better academic facilities brings in more students, which increases the number of students at a school and ultimately increases the number of students in the school's student section at sporting events.

The improved academics comes back around to increase the support for Rocket athletics.

1. The growth of the medical school improves the Toledo economy generally. More high paying jobs lead to more service jobs to support it.

2. Those associated with the medical school will build loyalties to the university which will translate into more high end season ticket holders for Toledo football.

3. The sense of community pride increases and that has a trickle down effect on attending the local team.

4. Medical schools improve the academic image of the MAC making it more likely that an alum will be comfortable shelling out money for MAC football than for a small time conference.

Now it's just getting silly. I agree with all those points....which are obvious btw.

But what is the justification for being on the main board then? One can reasonably assume that 1,2 and 3 all pertain to Toledo fans....who also visit the Toledo board...and have nothing to do with the rest of us. #4 would be accurate but still an extreme reach for a justification on the main board.

I would rather people just say, "I'm ok with the pimping".

(06-15-2012 07:56 PM)EA3 Wrote:  Read the thread again, start to finish.

DetroitRocket clearly states that he started the thread as a response to a few recent postings. I have no problem with this.

I sparred with LK for a few posts because I called BS about the supposed academic postings.

I further explained my position to HuskieJohn.

Do I feel pimping non athletic issues on the main board is necessary? No

Do I really care if these threads pop up? No

Am I allowed to crack a joke and make light of a situation I find silly? I hope so

Are you taking this a little too seriously?

I really don't care to read the entire thread. I haven't read every single post in this thread and probably won't. That's my right, just like it is someone's right to post a thread like this. I do know why DR made the post, but my comments were directly and your belief that a thread about academic facilities and so forth does not belong on the main MAC board. I gave my reasons why it actually does affect athletics.

And..........I thought you said you were done on this thread?

(06-15-2012 07:56 PM)EA3 Wrote:  Am I allowed to crack a joke and make light of a situation I find silly? I hope so

I don't know....are you really asking me? Am I your father?

(06-15-2012 07:56 PM)EA3 Wrote:  Are you taking this a little too seriously?

Nope. Especially if you read my last couple of posts.

(06-15-2012 08:10 PM)EA3 Wrote:  I would rather people just say, "I'm ok with the pimping".

What's up with using the word pimping all the time? Are you an 18 year old stuck in the 80's or did you just watch some show on HBO about hookers and blow?


If you want to call it pimping, fine. I'm okay with whatever you call it. I'm also okay with when someone posts something with the OT in the subject and it has nothing to do with the MAC or a school in the MAC, and usually not even sports related. Those type of posts would certainly go against what you want, but their good discussions. We're all fans of MAC schools, but it doesn't mean that we don't have other interests that can be of discussion every now and then.

(06-15-2012 10:36 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Why is it a problem for each MAC school to post stuff on their own school...especially if its some relatively big/positive news?

The small stuff doesn't need to be on here but stuff like this is welcomed IMO. I am not searching the other 12 team sites for whats going on. The title is not misleading one bit so whats the problem? If you don't care about Toledo news then don't click on it.

Not sure if that was in response to my post but I just copy and pasted the Toledo fans post in our thread(changing NIU to Toledo) as a joke.

There. Changed it to OT (off-topic). Read it or don't. It's the off-season. What else are we all gonna talk about? CUSA expansion? Realignment? Adding new teams?

btw EA3...I "get" it :-)

(06-18-2012 10:48 AM)Karl Wrote:  There. Changed it to OT (off-topic). Read it or don't. It's the off-season. What else are we all gonna talk about? CUSA expansion? Realignment? Adding new teams?

btw EA3...I "get" it :-)