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Thinning the Herd of Illegals
Why does a parent allow his 17yo to be drunk? What is a family living here illegally have access to handguns? What happens to an American caught in Mexico with a handgun?

Drunken teen killed by own ricocheted gunshot in southern Texas

Published June 13, 2012 NewsCore

MCALLEN, Texas – A drunk 17-year-old died in southern Texas after a bullet he shot at a butane tank ricocheted back and hit him in the head.

Israel Torres fired the shot with a semi-automatic handgun in the backyard of a home near McAllen, Texas, shortly before 11:30pm Monday night, The Monitor reported.

"It was just an accident under the influence of alcohol," Hidalgo County Sheriff Lupe Trevino said Tuesday.

Trevino said deputies found Torres' father and his two sons had been drinking heavily prior to the incident.

"All three are pretty drunk when someone pulls a .380-caliber, semi-automatic [handgun] and shoots it into the backyard," Trevino said. "The 17-year-old gets it and tells his girlfriend, 'Here, look, pull the trigger.'"

When the teen's girlfriend refused to handle the gun, Torres pulled out the gun's clip and turned to a butane tank, the Monitor reported.

"He fires one time and shoots himself in the head," Trevino said, adding that Torres' family was living in the U.S. illegally.

Deputies are investigating whether the father bore any criminal responsibility in the death of his son.

McAllen is located 250 miles south of San Antonio, near the Mexican border.
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Darwin at work again. You mix alcohol/drugs with guns and bad stuff happens. This is why I don't go shooting with my girlfriends brothers and dad, they get drunk and start shooting at things.
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(06-13-2012 08:14 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Why does a parent allow his 17yo to be drunk? What is a family living here illegally have access to handguns? What happens to an American caught in Mexico with a handgun?

Drunken teen killed by own ricocheted gunshot in southern Texas

Published June 13, 2012 NewsCore

MCALLEN, Texas – A drunk 17-year-old died in southern Texas after a bullet he shot at a butane tank ricocheted back and hit him in the head.

Israel Torres fired the shot with a semi-automatic handgun in the backyard of a home near McAllen, Texas, shortly before 11:30pm Monday night, The Monitor reported.

"It was just an accident under the influence of alcohol," Hidalgo County Sheriff Lupe Trevino said Tuesday.

Trevino said deputies found Torres' father and his two sons had been drinking heavily prior to the incident.

"All three are pretty drunk when someone pulls a .380-caliber, semi-automatic [handgun] and shoots it into the backyard," Trevino said. "The 17-year-old gets it and tells his girlfriend, 'Here, look, pull the trigger.'"

When the teen's girlfriend refused to handle the gun, Torres pulled out the gun's clip and turned to a butane tank, the Monitor reported.

"He fires one time and shoots himself in the head," Trevino said, adding that Torres' family was living in the U.S. illegally.

Deputies are investigating whether the father bore any criminal responsibility in the death of his son.

McAllen is located 250 miles south of San Antonio, near the Mexican border.
Did I miss something? No where in that article states any of those involved are "illegal". Being that it is in Texas(spelled correctly so I don't get another warning) and you live in Texas, do you have some info that I don't or are you just going by the latino name and assuming any of them are illegal?
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(06-13-2012 10:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(06-13-2012 08:14 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Why does a parent allow his 17yo to be drunk? What is a family living here illegally have access to handguns? What happens to an American caught in Mexico with a handgun?

Drunken teen killed by own ricocheted gunshot in southern Texas

Published June 13, 2012 NewsCore

MCALLEN, Texas – A drunk 17-year-old died in southern Texas after a bullet he shot at a butane tank ricocheted back and hit him in the head.

Israel Torres fired the shot with a semi-automatic handgun in the backyard of a home near McAllen, Texas, shortly before 11:30pm Monday night, The Monitor reported.

"It was just an accident under the influence of alcohol," Hidalgo County Sheriff Lupe Trevino said Tuesday.

Trevino said deputies found Torres' father and his two sons had been drinking heavily prior to the incident.

"All three are pretty drunk when someone pulls a .380-caliber, semi-automatic [handgun] and shoots it into the backyard," Trevino said. "The 17-year-old gets it and tells his girlfriend, 'Here, look, pull the trigger.'"

When the teen's girlfriend refused to handle the gun, Torres pulled out the gun's clip and turned to a butane tank, the Monitor reported.

"He fires one time and shoots himself in the head," Trevino said, adding that Torres' family was living in the U.S. illegally.

Deputies are investigating whether the father bore any criminal responsibility in the death of his son.

McAllen is located 250 miles south of San Antonio, near the Mexican border.
Did I miss something? No where in that article states any of those involved are "illegal". Being that it is in Texas(spelled correctly so I don't get another warning) and you live in Texas, do you have some info that I don't or are you just going by the latino name and assuming any of them are illegal?

Try again.

However, I was surprised to see SOAF suggesting that there should be stricter gun control.
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Gee...I actually thought this thread might be SOAF complementing Obama for his record number of deportations! 03-wink
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(06-13-2012 10:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Gee...I actually thought this thread might be SOAF complementing Obama for his record number of deportations! 03-wink

Drunk 17yo should not have a handgun. If you call that gun control, then yes, I think Drunk 17yo should not have access to a gun.
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(06-13-2012 10:26 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  Try again.

However, I was surprised to see SOAF suggesting that there should be stricter gun control.

Unless TX rules are very different from those in NC, the handgun must have been registered to a legal US citizen and Torres had no business having it in his possession. Otherwise it ws bought illegally in the US or brought into the country with the family from TX.

That's not exactly calling for more stringent gun control laws, more like raising the question "How did this family of illegals have possession of a firearm and where did they get it?". If it was bought here there was a lapse in current gun laws, if not it doesn't matter.

On a side note, that kid was extremely unlucky to have shot a what I assume was a round tank and have it ricochet straight back and hit him in the head.
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(06-13-2012 10:26 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  
(06-13-2012 10:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(06-13-2012 08:14 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Why does a parent allow his 17yo to be drunk? What is a family living here illegally have access to handguns? What happens to an American caught in Mexico with a handgun?

Drunken teen killed by own ricocheted gunshot in southern Texas

Published June 13, 2012 NewsCore

MCALLEN, Texas – A drunk 17-year-old died in southern Texas after a bullet he shot at a butane tank ricocheted back and hit him in the head.

Israel Torres fired the shot with a semi-automatic handgun in the backyard of a home near McAllen, Texas, shortly before 11:30pm Monday night, The Monitor reported.

"It was just an accident under the influence of alcohol," Hidalgo County Sheriff Lupe Trevino said Tuesday.

Trevino said deputies found Torres' father and his two sons had been drinking heavily prior to the incident.

"All three are pretty drunk when someone pulls a .380-caliber, semi-automatic [handgun] and shoots it into the backyard," Trevino said. "The 17-year-old gets it and tells his girlfriend, 'Here, look, pull the trigger.'"

When the teen's girlfriend refused to handle the gun, Torres pulled out the gun's clip and turned to a butane tank, the Monitor reported.

"He fires one time and shoots himself in the head," Trevino said, adding that Torres' family was living in the U.S. illegally.

Deputies are investigating whether the father bore any criminal responsibility in the death of his son.

McAllen is located 250 miles south of San Antonio, near the Mexican border.
Did I miss something? No where in that article states any of those involved are "illegal". Being that it is in Texas(spelled correctly so I don't get another warning) and you live in Texas, do you have some info that I don't or are you just going by the latino name and assuming any of them are illegal?

Try again.

However, I was surprised to see SOAF suggesting that there should be stricter gun control.
Thanks. I missed that.
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(06-13-2012 10:14 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(06-13-2012 08:14 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Why does a parent allow his 17yo to be drunk? What is a family living here illegally have access to handguns? What happens to an American caught in Mexico with a handgun?

Drunken teen killed by own ricocheted gunshot in southern Texas

Published June 13, 2012 NewsCore

MCALLEN, Texas – A drunk 17-year-old died in southern Texas after a bullet he shot at a butane tank ricocheted back and hit him in the head.

Israel Torres fired the shot with a semi-automatic handgun in the backyard of a home near McAllen, Texas, shortly before 11:30pm Monday night, The Monitor reported.

"It was just an accident under the influence of alcohol," Hidalgo County Sheriff Lupe Trevino said Tuesday.

Trevino said deputies found Torres' father and his two sons had been drinking heavily prior to the incident.

"All three are pretty drunk when someone pulls a .380-caliber, semi-automatic [handgun] and shoots it into the backyard," Trevino said. "The 17-year-old gets it and tells his girlfriend, 'Here, look, pull the trigger.'"

When the teen's girlfriend refused to handle the gun, Torres pulled out the gun's clip and turned to a butane tank, the Monitor reported.

"He fires one time and shoots himself in the head," Trevino said, adding that Torres' family was living in the U.S. illegally.

Deputies are investigating whether the father bore any criminal responsibility in the death of his son.

McAllen is located 250 miles south of San Antonio, near the Mexican border.
Did I miss something? No where in that article states any of those involved are "illegal". Being that it is in Texas(spelled correctly so I don't get another warning) and you live in Texas, do you have some info that I don't or are you just going by the latino name and assuming any of them are illegal?

Robert - try reading it again so you don't appear so stupid. The part where it says "Torres' family was living in the US illegally."
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(06-13-2012 10:41 AM)Crebman Wrote:  Robert - try reading it again so you don't appear so stupid. The part where it says "Torres' family was living in the US illegally."

Not that I want to make a habit of defending Robert, but he admitted he missed that part 6 minutes before you posted this.
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If he was shooting at a butane tank, it seems this result isn't as bad as it could have been.
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(06-13-2012 10:45 AM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  If he was shooting at a butane tank, it seems this result isn't as bad as it could have been.

Bingo. In some parts of the country it might e considered a terrorist act. Texas not so much.
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(06-13-2012 10:35 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(06-13-2012 10:26 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  Try again.

However, I was surprised to see SOAF suggesting that there should be stricter gun control.

Unless TX rules are very different from those in NC, the handgun must have been registered to a legal US citizen and Torres had no business having it in his possession. Otherwise it ws bought illegally in the US or brought into the country with the family from TX.

That's not exactly calling for more stringent gun control laws, more like raising the question "How did this family of illegals have possession of a firearm and where did they get it?". If it was bought here there was a lapse in current gun laws, if not it doesn't matter.

On a side note, that kid was extremely unlucky to have shot a what I assume was a round tank and have it ricochet straight back and hit him in the head.

Lucky, he didn't feel a thing. Lucky, no healthcare costs needed anymore. And the biggest lucky thing for the Libs, his GF won't have a chance to have a baby by him. Extreme planed parenthood.
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The glee that the cons take over the accidental death of a teenager is sickening.
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(06-13-2012 10:52 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Lucky, he didn't feel a thing. Lucky, no healthcare costs needed anymore. And the biggest lucky thing for the Libs, his GF won't have a chance to have a baby by him. Extreme planed parenthood.

That's a little extreme there SOAF.
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(06-13-2012 11:05 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  The glee that the cons take over the accidental death of a teenager is sickening.

Generalize much? SOAF is the only on to say anything along those lines.
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(06-13-2012 11:08 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(06-13-2012 10:52 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Lucky, he didn't feel a thing. Lucky, no healthcare costs needed anymore. And the biggest lucky thing for the Libs, his GF won't have a chance to have a baby by him. Extreme planed parenthood.

That's a little extreme there SOAF.

yea, I guess so. I take it back. what I meant was..... If I had a son he'd look like Israel.
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Turn those sarcasm detectors back on.
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Whats the big deal? Some stupid beaner accidentally shot himself. Am I supposed to be upset? One less mouth for the taxpayers to feed and one less person to clog up the emergency rooms..cry me a river.
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Oh, and one less voter for COTUS this November.

01-scout happens when you get drunk and fire your guns at butane tanks.
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