http://www.edexcellence.net/commentary/e..._multiline

Quote:I looked at zip codes (which isn’t perfect, because boundaries can change) and places with a large increase in the white share of the population (which isn’t perfect, because you’d really want to look at changes in income levels, but those data aren’t available yet for 2010).

I'd also be interested to see the inverse.

(06-12-2012 12:21 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  http://www.edexcellence.net/commentary/e..._multiline

Quote:I looked at zip codes (which isn’t perfect, because boundaries can change) and places with a large increase in the white share of the population (which isn’t perfect, because you’d really want to look at changes in income levels, but those data aren’t available yet for 2010).

I'd also be interested to see the inverse.

You mean where are the blacks are moving to? Answer = older suburban areas.

We have a couple of zip codes close to me 45210 and 45214 that were
99.9 Black and over 3-5 years are 40% White. In the next 3-5 years this area, Over the Rhine will be 90% White.

Detroit (column from 2010):

Quote:Because the survey results are based on different base estimates than last year, it's difficult to compare specific numbers. But the data indicates that white residents made up 13.3 percent of the city's population in 2009, up from 8.4 percent a year earlier. On the flip side, black residents made up 76.3 percent of the city's population last year, down from 82.7 in 2008.

So, what gives?

Demographer Kurt Metzger tells Fox 2 that city and suburban demographics appear to be evening out as black families head to the suburbs and young, white people move to the city.

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index....n_det.html

(06-12-2012 12:42 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-12-2012 12:21 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  http://www.edexcellence.net/commentary/e..._multiline

Quote:I looked at zip codes (which isn’t perfect, because boundaries can change) and places with a large increase in the white share of the population (which isn’t perfect, because you’d really want to look at changes in income levels, but those data aren’t available yet for 2010).

I'd also be interested to see the inverse.

You mean where are the blacks are moving to? Answer = older suburban areas.

We have a couple of zip codes close to me 45210 and 45214 that were
99.9 Black and over 3-5 years are 40% White. In the next 3-5 years this area, Over the Rhine will be 90% White.

Isn't that the area that had the race riots?

(06-12-2012 01:41 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(06-12-2012 12:42 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-12-2012 12:21 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  http://www.edexcellence.net/commentary/e..._multiline

Quote:I looked at zip codes (which isn’t perfect, because boundaries can change) and places with a large increase in the white share of the population (which isn’t perfect, because you’d really want to look at changes in income levels, but those data aren’t available yet for 2010).

I'd also be interested to see the inverse.

You mean where are the blacks are moving to? Answer = older suburban areas.

We have a couple of zip codes close to me 45210 and 45214 that were
99.9 Black and over 3-5 years are 40% White. In the next 3-5 years this area, Over the Rhine will be 90% White.

Isn't that the area that had the race riots?

One of the areas, there were others. Most of the Over the Rhine rioters
drove down or took buses to OTR to riot.

This group has generally took over OTR, and has spent about 500 Million renovating housing, building new apartments-condos, spend 43 Million renovating Washington Park, etc.
http://www.3cdc.org/where-we-work/over-the-rhine/

Over-the-Rhine (OTR) is Cincinnati's oldest and most historic neighborhood, strategically located between the city's two biggest employment centers, the central business district and the Uptown medical and university community. 3CDC's redevelopment work in OTR is focused on 110 square blocks from Liberty Street on the north, Central Parkway on the south and west and Main street to the east.

HISTORY & BACKGROUND
Over-the-Rhine (OTR) is Cincinnati's oldest and most historic neighborhood, home to the country's largest collection, 943 buildings, of 19th century, Italianate architecture. Those buildings earned the entire 360 acre OTR neighborhood distinction in 1983 as an historic district listed in the National Register of Historic Places.The neighborhood's name comes from German immigrants who built and settled there. Bridges over the Miami and Erie Canal separated the neighborhood from downtown Cincinnati, where many residents traveled everyday for work. In honor of their homeland, the area became known as Over-the-Rhine with the canal they crossed daily symbolizing the Rhine River in Germany.

Throughout the 19th century, especially the 1830's and 1840's, OTR became the port-of-entry for German immigrants. Residents spoke German, published German newspapers, worshipped in German churches, socialized in German beer halls, etc... By 1850, German immigrants reportedly made up 27% of Cincinnati's population with Irish-born immigrants following at 12%. Early residents built Music Hall, Washington Park and Findlay Market, important Cincinnati landmarks which remain today, as well as the beautiful Italianate housing stock that is still standing today

3CDC's investment in Over-the-Rhine has transformed one of the highest crime areas in the entire metropolitan area into a place where people of all ages, incomes and backgrounds choose to live, work, shop and play. An OTR Work Group, led by Joe Pichler, retired chairman and CEO of the Kroger Co. and made up of more than 30 people representing various OTR stakeholder groups, meets with 3CDC on a quarterly basis. 3CDC staff members also serve on a wide variety of OTR committees. 3CDC's projects are guided by the OTR Comprehensive Plan adopted in June 2002 and contribute to the goal of creating a safe, vibrant, diverse, mixed-use, mixed-income neighborhood.

I like to say it as Chatta-noooooga.

Also, St. Paul is a really nice, rather laid back big city with a small town vibe. If my wife and I didn't work in the west Minneapolis suburbs, we'd move to St. Paul in a heartbeat.

Fun fact - St. Paul is called the last of the Eastern (east coast of the USA) style cities and Minneapolis is called the first of the Western (west coast of the USA) style cities. It is actually pretty clear, we are two different cities with different cultures, stock and business style for sure......

Wonder what the crime rates were in 2000 as opposed 2010.

(06-12-2012 02:47 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Wonder what the crime rates were in 2000 as opposed 2010.

Probably depends on the type of crime. I know in my neighborhood (on the list above), murders are down but robbery and rape are up.

why are you so afraid of black people?

(06-12-2012 04:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  why are you so afraid of black people?

In the past 20 years, violent crime has increased more than four times faster than the population. Young blacks (under 18) are more violent than previous generations and are 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than young whites

• According to the latest US Department of Justice survey of crime victims, more than 6.6 million violent crimes (murder, rape, assault and robbery) are committed in the US each year, of which about 20 per cent, or 1.3 million, are inter-racial crimes.

• Most victims of race crime—about 90 per cent—are white, according to the survey "Highlights from 20 Years of Surveying Crime Victims", published in 1993. which have formulated today's thought process

• Almost 1 million white Americans were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by black Americans in 1992, compared with about 132,000 blacks who were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by whites, according to the same survey.

• Blacks thus committed 7.5 times more violent inter-racial crimes than whites even though the black population is only one-seventh the size of the white population. When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they reveal an extraordinary disparity: blacks are committing more than 50 times the number of violent racial crimes of whites.

• According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder blacks.

(06-12-2012 05:04 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(06-12-2012 04:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  why are you so afraid of black people?

In the past 20 years, violent crime has increased more than four times faster than the population. Young blacks (under 18) are more violent than previous generations and are 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than young whites

• According to the latest US Department of Justice survey of crime victims, more than 6.6 million violent crimes (murder, rape, assault and robbery) are committed in the US each year, of which about 20 per cent, or 1.3 million, are inter-racial crimes.

• Most victims of race crime—about 90 per cent—are white, according to the survey "Highlights from 20 Years of Surveying Crime Victims", published in 1993. which have formulated today's thought process

• Almost 1 million white Americans were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by black Americans in 1992, compared with about 132,000 blacks who were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by whites, according to the same survey.

• Blacks thus committed 7.5 times more violent inter-racial crimes than whites even though the black population is only one-seventh the size of the white population. When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they reveal an extraordinary disparity: blacks are committing more than 50 times the number of violent racial crimes of whites.

• According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder blacks.

This. But it's the world we live in and I can't do sh*t about it.

There has to be one place in America where everyone can live together. When I lived in Canada this was never an issue.

73% of black families have out of wedlock children compared to
23% of white families

(06-12-2012 05:32 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  73% of black families have out of wedlock children compared to
23% of white families

What are the actual numbers to that.

(06-12-2012 05:17 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  There has to be one place in America where everyone can live together. When I lived in Canada this was never an issue.

You guys have race pimps or a party perpetuating victim hood in Canada? If not, there's a starting point.