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RE: Independent status isn't BYU's long-term answer--Desert News
(06-11-2012 10:13 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 09:47 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 09:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Yeah, I suppose that could happen, but I doubt it. I think it's a safer bet that they make an indy exception. After all, there are only 4 or so indy teams in FBS FB right now.

Good point, but keep in mind this may all be moot if they go to a selection committee.
Why? They still have to have selection guidelines, even with a selection committee.

Guidelines for sure, but guidelines are made to be broken. Every season in FBS is different and the "rules" need to be flexible from one season to the next. The selection committee approach allows the BCS to basically say there are guidelines and then gives them the autonomy not to use them if the situation dictates.
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06-11-2012 10:34 AM
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RE: Independent status isn't BYU's long-term answer--Desert News
(06-11-2012 10:34 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 10:13 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 09:47 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 09:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Yeah, I suppose that could happen, but I doubt it. I think it's a safer bet that they make an indy exception. After all, there are only 4 or so indy teams in FBS FB right now.

Good point, but keep in mind this may all be moot if they go to a selection committee.
Why? They still have to have selection guidelines, even with a selection committee.

Guidelines for sure, but guidelines are made to be broken.

The whole concept of a selection committee is incredibly disturbing.
06-11-2012 10:35 AM
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RE: Independent status isn't BYU's long-term answer--Desert News
(06-11-2012 10:32 AM)attackfrog Wrote:  
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(06-11-2012 09:47 AM)AusTxPony Wrote:  If NBCs desire is content, then they shouldn't object if BYU keeps its contract with ESPN. NBC would still get away BYU games, yes? And the NBE should agree just to get BYU, kind of the best football Brand left out there (except ND). As a fan, I would approve and let BYU keep their ESPN deal which would put their home division foes on ESPN. Not a terrible thing. Am I missing something?

Well that's assuming those games end up on espn. The world wide leader could bury them on espn3 to spite us.

Who cares. They could do what they want with them. By that point the Big East's television exposure will not be significantly effected by what ESPN does with 6 BYU homes games. If the BYU game was the best game ESPN had available on a given evening, then I doubt it would end up on ESPN 3. Chances are, it will rarely be the top game available to ESPN, so it isnt likley it would have been on ESPN anyway.

That's true, but what about if byu hosts the big easy championship? That's a byu home game. I'm sure whoever our tv partners are in this scenario but unless it's ESPN then we might have an issue.
06-11-2012 10:56 AM
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RE: Independent status isn't BYU's long-term answer--Desert News
(06-11-2012 10:56 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 10:32 AM)attackfrog Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 10:15 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 09:47 AM)AusTxPony Wrote:  If NBCs desire is content, then they shouldn't object if BYU keeps its contract with ESPN. NBC would still get away BYU games, yes? And the NBE should agree just to get BYU, kind of the best football Brand left out there (except ND). As a fan, I would approve and let BYU keep their ESPN deal which would put their home division foes on ESPN. Not a terrible thing. Am I missing something?

Well that's assuming those games end up on espn. The world wide leader could bury them on espn3 to spite us.

Who cares. They could do what they want with them. By that point the Big East's television exposure will not be significantly effected by what ESPN does with 6 BYU homes games. If the BYU game was the best game ESPN had available on a given evening, then I doubt it would end up on ESPN 3. Chances are, it will rarely be the top game available to ESPN, so it isnt likley it would have been on ESPN anyway.

That's true, but what about if byu hosts the big easy championship? That's a byu home game. I'm sure whoever our tv partners are in this scenario but unless it's ESPN then we might have an issue.

I doubt thats covered by the ESPN contract---but its a good point. It might be covered. One of many details that would have to be worked out prior to BYU joining. It may have to be handled by moving the championship game to a neutral site in Utah.....bet BYU will love that.
06-11-2012 11:07 AM
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RE: Independent status isn't BYU's long-term answer--Desert News
Yes, that would be a problem. Well we'll just have to beat them and not let them host the Champ game!
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RE: Independent status isn't BYU's long-term answer--Desert News
(06-11-2012 10:35 AM)attackfrog Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 10:34 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 10:13 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 09:47 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 09:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Yeah, I suppose that could happen, but I doubt it. I think it's a safer bet that they make an indy exception. After all, there are only 4 or so indy teams in FBS FB right now.

Good point, but keep in mind this may all be moot if they go to a selection committee.
Why? They still have to have selection guidelines, even with a selection committee.

Guidelines for sure, but guidelines are made to be broken.

The whole concept of a selection committee is incredibly disturbing.
Same here. Too much opportunity to tweak the system to screw certain teams. And that is exactly why the bigger conferences are all for it.
06-11-2012 11:24 AM
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RE: Independent status isn't BYU's long-term answer--Desert News
(06-11-2012 10:56 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 10:32 AM)attackfrog Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 10:15 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(06-11-2012 09:47 AM)AusTxPony Wrote:  If NBCs desire is content, then they shouldn't object if BYU keeps its contract with ESPN. NBC would still get away BYU games, yes? And the NBE should agree just to get BYU, kind of the best football Brand left out there (except ND). As a fan, I would approve and let BYU keep their ESPN deal which would put their home division foes on ESPN. Not a terrible thing. Am I missing something?

Well that's assuming those games end up on espn. The world wide leader could bury them on espn3 to spite us.

Who cares. They could do what they want with them. By that point the Big East's television exposure will not be significantly effected by what ESPN does with 6 BYU homes games. If the BYU game was the best game ESPN had available on a given evening, then I doubt it would end up on ESPN 3. Chances are, it will rarely be the top game available to ESPN, so it isnt likley it would have been on ESPN anyway.

That's true, but what about if byu hosts the big easy championship? That's a byu home game. I'm sure whoever our tv partners are in this scenario but unless it's ESPN then we might have an issue.

ESPN and BYU are equally despicable. It's a marriage made in Provo.

BTW, is the blond with the "Go Storm" sign secretly David Lee Roth circa 1978?
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