(06-07-2012 03:13 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 02:39 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 02:12 PM)919R Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 12:23 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 12:00 PM)919R Wrote:  WRONG!!! He quit during Bobby Lutz last year (at mid-season). After Major was hired he asked to come back and WAS DENIED. That is a fact.

Link, back up what you say.

Shamarr is good kid, you may not like him, but that's you choice. He is a Pirate now, and if you want any traction with me, you better have proof of what you say. Otherwise it sour grapes.

I actually don't have a problem with Shamarr at all and I don't give a damn about "traction with you". I know what I posted is accurate. It was widely known and discussed among our fans/AD while it was going on. You can believe it or not, I could not care any less.

Yeah... those grapes were probably too sour, anyway.

Why on earth would any Charlotte fan have any sour grapes about Shamarr not being on the team?

I don't know, maybe this from one of your fellow fans posted on 1-11-10

Isn't this the same Bowden who absolutely torched Brandon Jennings (who starts for the Bucks) with 31 points and held Jennings to 11? Isn't this the same who dropped 41 on his good friend CJ Harris (who starts for WF)while holding him to 9? His opponents will tell you what he brings to the table but he is begging for 10-15 minutes per game...at UNCC!!! Bowden led the whole pre-season tourney in Canada 2 years back - before he played a single game. He also led the team in steals and was second in assists. He is a machine in the gym and works on his game constantly. The coach is the only one who could stop this kid. Nolan Smith said Duke "breathed a sigh of relief" when "they sat Bowden down". This kid is a Lambo and the coach was Driving Miss Daisy going thru school zones at 15 mph. When he steps across half court - he's in range! Maybe if he was an agressive loudmouth or had a rich father with connections...oh well, UGA, UVA, BC, Fla State and all the bigger other colleges who immediately came running didn't think he was uncoachable or impatient. No, they wanted a natural ready to go scorer and a lock down defender! Let's all return here in November 2010 and we'll compare notes. Good luck Niners - but I swear we lost a great one in the making.

http://gmine.blogspot.com/2010/01/bowden...aware.html

Shamarr was one of your top 3 point threats when he left, well guess I can't see a single reason a fan would be mad that a 40% 3 point shooter left.

http://www.greensborosports.com/2010/01/...reensboro/

Any Niner fan with any sense was not upset to see him go. Yes, he could provide a spark of the bench that won us a couple games. I don't think anyone would deny that. However, he was very streaky, played little to no defense, and had an attitude problem. Also, why would we have sour grapes about a player that you openly admit won't even start on a bad ECU team. Those are the reasons I don't want him back and most Niner fans agree with that point of view.

However, with all that said, I am glad that he seems to be on a team where he is appreciated and, from what you all say, seems to be turning his act around. He's just a kid and it's good he's getting a second chance. I wish him well and I honestly wish ECU well (except you play us).

(06-07-2012 08:02 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  Any Niner fan with any sense was not upset to see him go. Yes, he could provide a spark of the bench that won us a couple games. I don't think anyone would deny that. However, he was very streaky, played little to no defense, and had an attitude problem. Also, why would we have sour grapes about a player that you openly admit won't even start on a bad ECU team. Those are the reasons I don't want him back and most Niner fans agree with that point of view.

However, with all that said, I am glad that he seems to be on a team where he is appreciated and, from what you all say, seems to be turning his act around. He's just a kid and it's good he's getting a second chance. I wish him well and I honestly wish ECU well (except you play us).

Two things, Shamarr is a soft spoken kid and I as far as I've seen he doesn't have a attitude issue. From what he has said, even his quotes on UNC-C own web site, it seems that he didn't have an attitude back then.

I haven't said that he wouldn't start, in fact, I willing to bet to start the season he will. Richmond is good, but young, Bowden has a season under his belt and was working very well with his team mates by the end of the year. He'll start at the begining of the year, if Richmond comes in and starts going off behind the arch and plays good D, then we'll see.

As far as a "bad ECU team".........pot meet kettle???? ECU has a better record over the past two years than Charlotte and finished higher with more confrence wins in C-USA than Charlotte has in the A-10.

(06-07-2012 09:06 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 08:02 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  Any Niner fan with any sense was not upset to see him go. Yes, he could provide a spark of the bench that won us a couple games. I don't think anyone would deny that. However, he was very streaky, played little to no defense, and had an attitude problem. Also, why would we have sour grapes about a player that you openly admit won't even start on a bad ECU team. Those are the reasons I don't want him back and most Niner fans agree with that point of view.

However, with all that said, I am glad that he seems to be on a team where he is appreciated and, from what you all say, seems to be turning his act around. He's just a kid and it's good he's getting a second chance. I wish him well and I honestly wish ECU well (except you play us).

Two things, Shamarr is a soft spoken kid and I as far as I've seen he doesn't have a attitude issue. From what he has said, even his quotes on UNC-C own web site, it seems that he didn't have an attitude back then.

I haven't said that he wouldn't start, in fact, I willing to bet to start the season he will. Richmond is good, but young, Bowden has a season under his belt and was working very well with his team mates by the end of the year. He'll start at the begining of the year, if Richmond comes in and starts going off behind the arch and plays good D, then we'll see.

As far as a "bad ECU team".........pot meet kettle???? ECU has a better record over the past two years than Charlotte and finished higher with more confrence wins in C-USA than Charlotte has in the A-10.

Not win you drop all those D2 victories of yours and I hope you aren't seriously comparing C-USA bball to the A10......even though we're leaving the A10 it is a way better bball league. Also, there's that little thing where we've beaten your ass 2 out of the last 3 times (none of the 3 games in our arena) even though we're in our worst stretch in over 2 decades and you guys are in your best (as sad as that is).

(06-07-2012 09:24 PM)919R Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 09:06 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 08:02 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  Any Niner fan with any sense was not upset to see him go. Yes, he could provide a spark of the bench that won us a couple games. I don't think anyone would deny that. However, he was very streaky, played little to no defense, and had an attitude problem. Also, why would we have sour grapes about a player that you openly admit won't even start on a bad ECU team. Those are the reasons I don't want him back and most Niner fans agree with that point of view.

However, with all that said, I am glad that he seems to be on a team where he is appreciated and, from what you all say, seems to be turning his act around. He's just a kid and it's good he's getting a second chance. I wish him well and I honestly wish ECU well (except you play us).

Two things, Shamarr is a soft spoken kid and I as far as I've seen he doesn't have a attitude issue. From what he has said, even his quotes on UNC-C own web site, it seems that he didn't have an attitude back then.

I haven't said that he wouldn't start, in fact, I willing to bet to start the season he will. Richmond is good, but young, Bowden has a season under his belt and was working very well with his team mates by the end of the year. He'll start at the begining of the year, if Richmond comes in and starts going off behind the arch and plays good D, then we'll see.

As far as a "bad ECU team".........pot meet kettle???? ECU has a better record over the past two years than Charlotte and finished higher with more confrence wins in C-USA than Charlotte has in the A-10.

Not win you drop all those D2 victories of yours and I hope you aren't seriously comparing C-USA bball to the A10......even though we're leaving the A10 it is a way better bball league. Also, there's that little thing where we've beaten your ass 2 out of the last 3 times (none of the 3 games in our arena) even though we're in our worst stretch in over 2 decades and you guys are in your best (as sad as that is).

The record is the record and ECU's is better. Point still stands pot meet kettle. Yes, the A-10 is better, but Charlotte has had plenty of time to improve and hasn't, in fact has taken steps backwards, while ECU has taken steps forward.

(06-07-2012 09:24 PM)919R Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 09:06 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 08:02 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  Any Niner fan with any sense was not upset to see him go. Yes, he could provide a spark of the bench that won us a couple games. I don't think anyone would deny that. However, he was very streaky, played little to no defense, and had an attitude problem. Also, why would we have sour grapes about a player that you openly admit won't even start on a bad ECU team. Those are the reasons I don't want him back and most Niner fans agree with that point of view.

However, with all that said, I am glad that he seems to be on a team where he is appreciated and, from what you all say, seems to be turning his act around. He's just a kid and it's good he's getting a second chance. I wish him well and I honestly wish ECU well (except you play us).

Two things, Shamarr is a soft spoken kid and I as far as I've seen he doesn't have a attitude issue. From what he has said, even his quotes on UNC-C own web site, it seems that he didn't have an attitude back then.

I haven't said that he wouldn't start, in fact, I willing to bet to start the season he will. Richmond is good, but young, Bowden has a season under his belt and was working very well with his team mates by the end of the year. He'll start at the begining of the year, if Richmond comes in and starts going off behind the arch and plays good D, then we'll see.

As far as a "bad ECU team".........pot meet kettle???? ECU has a better record over the past two years than Charlotte and finished higher with more confrence wins in C-USA than Charlotte has in the A-10.

Not win you drop all those D2 victories of yours and I hope you aren't seriously comparing C-USA bball to the A10......even though we're leaving the A10 it is a way better bball league. Also, there's that little thing where we've beaten your ass 2 out of the last 3 times (none of the 3 games in our arena) even though we're in our worst stretch in over 2 decades and you guys are in your best (as sad as that is).

I think you'll be surprised how good CUSA is when you start playing. Then again, I expect Charlotte to gradually get better under your new coach. CUSA is a grind, and adding Old Dominion isnt going to help that. Not sure about FIU and UTSA, but the rest are getting serious about basketball. Tulane just finished their practice facility, ECU is building their's. Tulsa has a new place to play...its a different basketball CUSA than when Charlotte was there before, but you'll see that the talent level keeps increasing. I expect it to be a mutli-bid league, no matter how much heartburn that gives the pundits at ESPN.

(06-07-2012 09:32 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 09:24 PM)919R Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 09:06 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 08:02 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  Any Niner fan with any sense was not upset to see him go. Yes, he could provide a spark of the bench that won us a couple games. I don't think anyone would deny that. However, he was very streaky, played little to no defense, and had an attitude problem. Also, why would we have sour grapes about a player that you openly admit won't even start on a bad ECU team. Those are the reasons I don't want him back and most Niner fans agree with that point of view.

However, with all that said, I am glad that he seems to be on a team where he is appreciated and, from what you all say, seems to be turning his act around. He's just a kid and it's good he's getting a second chance. I wish him well and I honestly wish ECU well (except you play us).

Two things, Shamarr is a soft spoken kid and I as far as I've seen he doesn't have a attitude issue. From what he has said, even his quotes on UNC-C own web site, it seems that he didn't have an attitude back then.

I haven't said that he wouldn't start, in fact, I willing to bet to start the season he will. Richmond is good, but young, Bowden has a season under his belt and was working very well with his team mates by the end of the year. He'll start at the begining of the year, if Richmond comes in and starts going off behind the arch and plays good D, then we'll see.

As far as a "bad ECU team".........pot meet kettle???? ECU has a better record over the past two years than Charlotte and finished higher with more confrence wins in C-USA than Charlotte has in the A-10.

Not win you drop all those D2 victories of yours and I hope you aren't seriously comparing C-USA bball to the A10......even though we're leaving the A10 it is a way better bball league. Also, there's that little thing where we've beaten your ass 2 out of the last 3 times (none of the 3 games in our arena) even though we're in our worst stretch in over 2 decades and you guys are in your best (as sad as that is).

I think you'll be surprised how good CUSA is when you start playing. Then again, I expect Charlotte to gradually get better under your new coach. CUSA is a grind, and adding Old Dominion isnt going to help that. Not sure about FIU and UTSA, but the rest are getting serious about basketball. Tulane just finished their practice facility, ECU is building their's. Tulsa has a new place to play...its a different basketball CUSA than when Charlotte was there before, but you'll see that the talent level keeps increasing. I expect it to be a mutli-bid league, no matter how much heartburn that gives the pundits at ESPN.

C-USA when Charlotte was last here was 10 times better than what we have today. Marquette, Depaul, St. Louis, Charlotte, USF, UofL, Cinny, and Memphis. Yeah, that blows the socks off what we have today.

I think HP lives in an alternate dimension sometimes. No offense HP but the old CUSA was WAY better than today's CUSA.

Comparing ECU basketball to Charlotte basketball is like comparing Charlotte football to ECU football. It's pointless because there is no comparison.

(06-08-2012 07:52 AM)wh49er Wrote:  Comparing ECU basketball to Charlotte basketball is like comparing Charlotte football to ECU football. It's pointless because there is no comparison.

LoL @ UNCC fans. Really? You don't even have a football program. We have a successful, FBS program.

We have a D1 basketball program that has beaten you in recent years. We have beaten NC State & Memphis recently.

I know you're butthurt about Shamarr Bowden, but don't make yourself look anymore foolish than you already have.

ECU - FBS Football / UNCC - No Football
ECU - D1 Basketball / UNCC - D1 Basketball

(06-08-2012 07:52 AM)wh49er Wrote:  Comparing ECU basketball to Charlotte basketball is like comparing Charlotte football to ECU football. It's pointless because there is no comparison.

Taking nothing away from Charlotte in basketball, but you are undervaluing where ECU is now in basketball under Lebo. First, he is 1-1 versus Charlotte, each winning on their home floor. Second, Lebo has won 3 CUSA tourney games over the past two years, beating NCAA tourney teams UAB and Southern Miss along the way.

You may say that Major will be good, but the reality is that both coaches were hired at the same time, and IMO, this will be a competitive series throughout. There is no comparison in the past...but the present is not as much of a difference as Charlotte fans want to believe.

Question....ECU is adding a practice facility for both men's and women's basketball. What type of facilities does Halton have? Does basketball share the arena and practice time?

(06-08-2012 08:02 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(06-08-2012 07:52 AM)wh49er Wrote:  Comparing ECU basketball to Charlotte basketball is like comparing Charlotte football to ECU football. It's pointless because there is no comparison.

LoL @ UNCC fans. Really? You don't even have a football program. We have a successful, FBS program.

We have a D1 basketball program that has beaten you in recent years. We have beaten NC State & Memphis recently.

I know you're butthurt about Shamarr Bowden, but don't make yourself look anymore foolish than you already have.

ECU - FBS Football / UNCC - No Football
ECU - D1 Basketball / UNCC - D1 Basketball

You've made 2 tournaments in your history both in losing seasons other than that what have you really done? One or two wins doesn't make a program.


The only reason Shamarr Bowden matters to me, is he got drubbed with the rest of your team last year and he will get drubbed again this year.


It's downright comical that ECU fans are talking crap about basketball. Can't wait until Lebo brings his team of castoffs and jucos to Halton.

(06-08-2012 08:18 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(06-08-2012 07:52 AM)wh49er Wrote:  Comparing ECU basketball to Charlotte basketball is like comparing Charlotte football to ECU football. It's pointless because there is no comparison.

Taking nothing away from Charlotte in basketball, but you are undervaluing where ECU is now in basketball under Lebo. First, he is 1-1 versus Charlotte, each winning on their home floor. Second, Lebo has won 3 CUSA tourney games over the past two years.

You may say that Major will be good, but the reality is that both coaches were hired at the same time, and IMO, this will be a competitive series throughout. There is no comparison in the past...but the present is not as much of a difference as Charlotte fans want to believe.

Question....ECU is adding a practice facility for both men's and women's basketball. What type of facilities does Halton have? Does basketball share the arena and practice time?

Not to argue... but I believe we played Charlotte twice one year... we went 1-1 that year, and 0-1 last year. So he's 1-2 against UNCC I think.

HP, they are 2-1 against us under Lebo. 1 win at our place, and a lose, one in South Carolina.

(06-08-2012 08:20 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(06-08-2012 08:02 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(06-08-2012 07:52 AM)wh49er Wrote:  Comparing ECU basketball to Charlotte basketball is like comparing Charlotte football to ECU football. It's pointless because there is no comparison.

LoL @ UNCC fans. Really? You don't even have a football program. We have a successful, FBS program.

We have a D1 basketball program that has beaten you in recent years. We have beaten NC State & Memphis recently.

I know you're butthurt about Shamarr Bowden, but don't make yourself look anymore foolish than you already have.

ECU - FBS Football / UNCC - No Football
ECU - D1 Basketball / UNCC - D1 Basketball

You've made 2 tournaments in your history both in losing seasons other than that what have you really done? One or two wins doesn't make a program.


The only reason Shamarr Bowden matters to me, is he got drubbed with the rest of your team last year and he will get drubbed again this year.


It's downright comical that ECU fans are talking crap about basketball. Can't wait until Lebo brings his team of castoffs and jucos to Halton.

Fact is, your *flagship* sport is in a discussion with apparently (according to you) the worst basketball program in America. How sad is that? Must suck to know your best sport, the one you hang your hat on, just isn't anywhere as good as you think.

(06-08-2012 08:24 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(06-08-2012 08:20 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(06-08-2012 08:02 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(06-08-2012 07:52 AM)wh49er Wrote:  Comparing ECU basketball to Charlotte basketball is like comparing Charlotte football to ECU football. It's pointless because there is no comparison.

LoL @ UNCC fans. Really? You don't even have a football program. We have a successful, FBS program.

We have a D1 basketball program that has beaten you in recent years. We have beaten NC State & Memphis recently.

I know you're butthurt about Shamarr Bowden, but don't make yourself look anymore foolish than you already have.

ECU - FBS Football / UNCC - No Football
ECU - D1 Basketball / UNCC - D1 Basketball

You've made 2 tournaments in your history both in losing seasons other than that what have you really done? One or two wins doesn't make a program.


The only reason Shamarr Bowden matters to me, is he got drubbed with the rest of your team last year and he will get drubbed again this year.


It's downright comical that ECU fans are talking crap about basketball. Can't wait until Lebo brings his team of castoffs and jucos to Halton.

Fact is, your *flagship* sport is in a discussion with apparently (according to you) the worst basketball program in America. How sad is that? Must suck to know your best sport, the one you hang your hat on, just isn't anywhere as good as you think.

That's gonna cause them 'major' butthurt.

(06-08-2012 08:24 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Fact is, your *flagship* sport is in a discussion with apparently (according to you) the worst basketball program in America. How sad is that? Must suck to know your best sport, the one you hang your hat on, just isn't anywhere as good as you think.

So it's like ECU football from 2002-2005. You know when you lost to the likes of Duke, Memphis, and Rice?


Or is it different than that?

(06-08-2012 08:29 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(06-08-2012 08:24 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Fact is, your *flagship* sport is in a discussion with apparently (according to you) the worst basketball program in America. How sad is that? Must suck to know your best sport, the one you hang your hat on, just isn't anywhere as good as you think.

So it's like ECU football from 2002-2005. You know when you lost to the likes of Duke, Memphis, and Rice?


Or is it different than that?

It is different than that. We've been nationally ranked in the top 10 in football. More recently, we've been as high as #13 in 2008. We have recent success, as well as past success. We have championships. The abomination that was John Thompson is not spoken of in Greenville. lol 2003-2005 to ECU fans is like the early 1940's to Germans. It didn't happen.

(06-08-2012 08:32 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  It is different than that. We've been nationally ranked in the top 10 in football. More recently, we've been as high as #13 in 2008. We have recent success, as well as past success. We have championships. The abomination that was John Thompson is not spoken of in Greenville. lol 2003-2005 to ECU fans is like the early 1940's to Germans. It didn't happen.

And we've won basketball championships and have been ranked....so it goes back to my original thought of it's pointless to compare the two.

(06-08-2012 08:02 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(06-08-2012 07:52 AM)wh49er Wrote:  Comparing ECU basketball to Charlotte basketball is like comparing Charlotte football to ECU football. It's pointless because there is no comparison.

LoL @ UNCC fans. Really? You don't even have a football program. We have a successful, FBS program.

We have a D1 basketball program that has beaten you in recent years. We have beaten NC State & Memphis recently.

I know you're butthurt about Shamarr Bowden, but don't make yourself look anymore foolish than you already have.

ECU - FBS Football / UNCC - No Football
ECU - D1 Basketball / UNCC - D1 Basketball

What about trying that same comparison with post-season wins

ECU football - 8 all time
ECU basketball - 0 all time

Charlotte basketball - 7 all time
Charlotte football - 0 all time

I would probably be more careful about calling people foolish. If you think HAVING a d1 basketball program puts you in the same sentence as Charlotte then you are just silly. Accomplish something, anything, in basketball and then let's talk.

I mean who needs SJing when all you kids have jumped on his band wagon. It is common knowledge among Charlotte students that Shamaar asked to come back LONG before ECU was in the conversation. The fact of the matter is that he is a strong 3 pt shooter who does nothing else. Ball movement stops with him. If he's on, then your team is probably reaping benefits, when he's off he brings nothing to the table.