(06-06-2012 06:27 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  

(06-06-2012 03:45 PM)stAtecamera13 Wrote:  

(06-06-2012 03:14 PM)slycat Wrote:  I agree that more OOC games are fun and in TXSTs case I know that means one body bag, one FCS, and one home and home (if possible). Problem is that if it's a home and home then that game will be away at one point and you lose a home game. I'd like to lose the FCS game to solve that problem but like our AD has said we need home games and that one is guarenteed.

Hopefully they will get two home and homes set up to avoid such a situation.

On the plus side with 5 home conference games every other year there is the chance to have 7 home games with a home and home and a fcs team.

And a minimum of 5 home games.

IMO you never have a home and home with fcs, except in the case of USA or another fcs within your conference moving up.

8 games is good enough to determine the champ the BCS should not go to nine. I think the teams see it as a way to get more home games not less.

1) You will NEVER see a home and home EVER scheduled between a FBS and FCS school.

2) South will not be considered FCS when we play anybody this year.

(06-07-2012 03:23 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 01:57 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I'm not talking about the Dukes and Vandys in the BCS that is why I said the "majority of BCS programs" (the top 40), and I'm certainly not including the Big East in that discussion any longer.

I know what you said but that doesn't amount to much. Of course the top BCS programs are far ahead of the non-AQs.

There isn't a difference between the top 10 FCS teams and the 2nd and 3rd tier SB and MAC members, especially for one game.

Thus I agree the SB shouldn't play those FCS the risk of a loss is higher than the reward.

(06-07-2012 09:27 PM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 08:06 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 07:53 PM)Seven Would Be Nice Wrote:  

(06-06-2012 02:51 PM)panama Wrote:  Dont like it, Want that extra game to get a power conference team at home

Do you enjoy losing or something? Why would you want a 40+ point loss at home? That won't help you attract fans. You gotta win the home games and hope your embarrassing losses weren't even on TV.

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Arkansas State is playing Alcorn St, Nebraska, Memphis and Oregon this Fall.

ULM is playing Arkansas, Baylor, Auburn and Tulane

Troy is playing Tennessee, Navy, Mississippi State and UAB

So you mix it up between some Power Conference teams and some mid majors.

The point is that one recruits want to play vs. Baylor at home not some no name OOC team. As a conference we just have to start knocking those OOC opponents off. This is how FSU and Miami built their programs.

South is playing Miss St, NC State, Hawaii, UTSA, and Nicholls St this year to further prove the point. Those extra games are invaluable. They (hopefully) allow you to get a couple extra wins aside from conference play, on top of providing a few bucks for your program. Not to mention allowing for home and home scheduling, which South has set up for both NC State (2015) and Miss St (2014).

BIR: You also make my point that schools tend to schedule one FCS game when they have only eight conference games, which isn't really what a Sun Belt team should be doing when SOS is critical for getting respect.

I'll ignore Hawaii, because it's a 13th game. If we'd had a 9-game schedule, we wouldn't have scheduled FCS Nicholls State -- a game we won by blowout 2 years ago. I'd rather have WKU (full round robin) on the schedule instead. IMO, it is a more interesting matchup, better for attendance, and a good measure of how we stack up to a team that's just a couple years ahead of us. Beating Nicholls does nothing for us; a loss would be devastating. I'm glad we're not planning to schedule FCS again anytime soon.

I'll ignore Hawaii, because it's a 13th game. If we'd had a 9-game schedule, we wouldn't have scheduled FCS Nicholls State -- a game we won by blowout 2 years ago. I'd rather have WKU (full round robin) on the schedule instead. IMO, it is a more interesting matchup, better for attendance, and a good measure of how we stack up to a team that's just a couple years ahead of us. Beating Nicholls does nothing for us; a loss would be devastating. I'm glad we're not planning to schedule FCS again anytime soon.
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You can use that as a win to get bowl qualified. So unless they change the rules a win has value.

(06-07-2012 06:06 PM)Journeyman22 Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 05:43 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  I saw this coming a long time ago if you want to play more big name teams then you can schedule all three of your games against them. No one is forcing any AD to play FCS teams.

I agree. If you want games to help your SOS, then schedule them. Most conferences that have 4 OOC games schedule at least one easy game. Simply eliminate the FCS game.

Fortunately, it isn't an issue at USA. After the Nicholls State game this season, there aren't more OOC slots open on our future schedules thru 2018. Currently, no more FCS teams are scheduled -- none.

As a fan, I'm just not interested in games against lower division teams. They're not good for attendance either. My feeling: Play one guarantee game, one OOC "rival"or someone you can play home and home (in USA's case, schools like Tulane, UAB, USM), and then get a 2-for-1 against a BCS school. Avoid going 0-3 OOC, and maybe even pull an upset to go 2-1; then dominate your conference. You'll be fine.

If you start beating those Tulanes and UAB's, you won't be able to get home and home with them any more.

(06-08-2012 02:04 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 06:06 PM)Journeyman22 Wrote:  

(06-07-2012 05:43 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  I saw this coming a long time ago if you want to play more big name teams then you can schedule all three of your games against them. No one is forcing any AD to play FCS teams.

I agree. If you want games to help your SOS, then schedule them. Most conferences that have 4 OOC games schedule at least one easy game. Simply eliminate the FCS game.

Fortunately, it isn't an issue at USA. After the Nicholls State game this season, there aren't more OOC slots open on our future schedules thru 2018. Currently, no more FCS teams are scheduled -- none.

As a fan, I'm just not interested in games against lower division teams. They're not good for attendance either. My feeling: Play one guarantee game, one OOC "rival"or someone you can play home and home (in USA's case, schools like Tulane, UAB, USM), and then get a 2-for-1 against a BCS school. Avoid going 0-3 OOC, and maybe even pull an upset to go 2-1; then dominate your conference. You'll be fine.

If you start beating those Tulanes and UAB's, you won't be able to get home and home with them any more.

So TooLame and UAB are going to play FCS instead of FBS schools. They are in a declining conference with little clout. You think USA, UL, even ULM are going to give them 2/1 or no return games. Not likely we can do that with the Big East, and others.

(06-07-2012 06:02 PM)crawfish3 Wrote:  Monroe will go (more) broke if they only play one money game. I'll bet they will play all 3 rent a win games.

(06-06-2012 02:24 PM)TrojanNation Wrote:  

(06-06-2012 02:16 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  Reduces the chances of WKU losing to DII teams.

Not really.

We will play 9 conference games. That leaves 3 games.

This encourages more games against FCS teams.

Every team will probably play 1 money game (L for the most part) one lower teired team in a home/home series, and 1 LOW teired (FCS??) team at home.

And you would lose that bet...

I'd imagine the USA-Navy series will be shortened if Navy goes through with joining the Big East in 2015.

Last I heard the SEC was staying at 8 conference games, so the Sun Belt going to 9 should reduce the supply of FBS non-conference opponents available to them, which means the SEC should have to pay more for non-conference games. If the MAC can go to 9 conference games then it should drive prices up even further.

(06-08-2012 10:23 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  I'd imagine the USA-Navy series will be shortened if Navy goes through with joining the Big East in 2015.

Last I heard the SEC was staying at 8 conference games, so the Sun Belt going to 9 should reduce the supply of FBS non-conference opponents available to them, which means the SEC should have to pay more for non-conference games. If the MAC can go to 9 conference games then it should drive prices up even further.

Hm, you bring up a good point of what might be the intended side-effect of this move.

Going to nine was a proactive move. With conferences expanding the trend looks like nine game schudules will be more common than not and that will make it more difficult for the mids to schedule ooc money games

(06-08-2012 10:23 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  I'd imagine the USA-Navy series will be shortened if Navy goes through with joining the Big East in 2015.

Last I heard the SEC was staying at 8 conference games, so the Sun Belt going to 9 should reduce the supply of FBS non-conference opponents available to them, which means the SEC should have to pay more for non-conference games. If the MAC can go to 9 conference games then it should drive prices up even further.

My understanding is that the last two years of the four year deal is the portion of the scheduling contract that is in doubt. Not the first two.

Generally, this is not really a huge issue when a team changes conferences, because most conferences only have one extra or less OOC game. But with Navy, an independent, they will have to dump up to 8 OOC games off their schedule.

My guess is that Navy will either just continue the USA deal, or offer to move the last two years of the contract to other years.

If they wish to break the contract, Navy is gonna have to pay up. What other conferences have done in the past is to help a new member avoid paying all of the teams that they have scheduled by getting the other teams in the conference to offer to fill the cancelled spots. So my guess is that we'll either play Navy, or we'll get the last two years of the contract filled with South Florida, Central Florida, or Houston. If I were USA, I'd tell Navy/the Big East, we're not interested in replacing Navy with Memphis.