(05-31-2012 11:07 AM)piratefan1975 Wrote:  Outside of a few hundred fans making an away trip, most fans won't be able to follow their teams on many away games. How many people can afford airfare and weekend expenses for multiple trips a year to see a team play.

In the New CUSA, I'll be able to see the Pirates at every home game, plus travel to ODU and Charlotte as well as many regional OOC games we have. While TV is nice, I'd much rather be there in person.

I think that's why tv networks are all for this model. Your not going to travel so watch it on our network.

10 Mil a year in tv revenue will alleviate any travel woes we have.

LOL at 10 mil

(05-31-2012 11:39 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 11:07 AM)piratefan1975 Wrote:  Outside of a few hundred fans making an away trip, most fans won't be able to follow their teams on many away games. How many people can afford airfare and weekend expenses for multiple trips a year to see a team play.

In the New CUSA, I'll be able to see the Pirates at every home game, plus travel to ODU and Charlotte as well as many regional OOC games we have. While TV is nice, I'd much rather be there in person.

I think that's why tv networks are all for this model. Your not going to travel so watch it on our network.

10 Mil a year in tv revenue will alleviate any travel woes we have.

Throwing out those big numbers again. Imagine that some ole bs coming from the peanut gallery

(05-31-2012 11:39 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  10 Mil a year in tv revenue will alleviate any travel woes we have.

Quote:A $60 million deal per year (as speculated by CBSSports.com's sources, slightly better than their low end) would be worth $4 million each for the 10 full members; $3 million each to the four football-only members; and $1 million each to the eight non-football members.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...s-lifetime

(05-31-2012 12:27 PM)Lee Moses Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 11:39 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  10 Mil a year in tv revenue will alleviate any travel woes we have.

Quote:A $60 million deal per year (as speculated by CBSSports.com's sources, slightly better than their low end) would be worth $4 million each for the 10 full members; $3 million each to the four football-only members; and $1 million each to the eight non-football members.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...s-lifetime

...and for every source spouting low numbers, there's one spouting high numbers...

(05-31-2012 12:27 PM)Lee Moses Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 11:39 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  10 Mil a year in tv revenue will alleviate any travel woes we have.

Quote:A $60 million deal per year (as speculated by CBSSports.com's sources, slightly better than their low end) would be worth $4 million each for the 10 full members; $3 million each to the four football-only members; and $1 million each to the eight non-football members.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...s-lifetime

I can source one-sided extremes too.

Quote:"Well, we continue to be amazed at the size of these deals," said sports economist David Carter, executive director of the Sports Business Institute at the University of Southern California. "What the landscape looked like a year or two ago has obviously changed dramatically. ... But clearly they are now in a relatively disadvantageous position based on the comings and goings in their conference."

Quote:So the Big East will have a presence in the top 50 markets in the country, reaching 32 million households and 27 percent of television markets.

Quote:Berke, who has worked with many college and professional teams and assisted the Yankees in launching the YES Network, has a more optimistic view for the Big East. He said that the Big East can ultimately fetch a rights fee in the range of the ACC's $3.6 billion deal, but only if the conference remains intact by the fall.

There are only so many major college conferences in the mix and only so many professional sports leagues available to offer programming, Berke said.

"That's a big advantage of the Big East," Berke said. "If you are a television distributor for college sports, you have relatively few options. So no matter how you want to configure these schools, there's still major programs and there's a relatively fixed amount of them. And you have more and more distributors and media platforms. It's a matter of demand."

Source

(05-31-2012 11:39 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 11:07 AM)piratefan1975 Wrote:  Outside of a few hundred fans making an away trip, most fans won't be able to follow their teams on many away games. How many people can afford airfare and weekend expenses for multiple trips a year to see a team play.

In the New CUSA, I'll be able to see the Pirates at every home game, plus travel to ODU and Charlotte as well as many regional OOC games we have. While TV is nice, I'd much rather be there in person.

I think that's why tv networks are all for this model. Your not going to travel so watch it on our network.

10 Mil a year in tv revenue will alleviate any travel woes we have.

By saying "this model" I'm assuming you mean the nBe model of a national conference. The networks want rivalries. Rivalries make for good TV and good ratings. Sure, if they can't get rivalries, then they want large fanbases. If they can't get either, then certainly, a collection of large markets certainly wouldn't hurt the cause.

The SEC is probably the most geographically compact of the major conferences. Would TV execs be willing to break up the SEC to add teams from all over the country in an effort to minimize fan travel so more people could watch on their network?

I'm not sold on that assertion.

As to your second point, I have no doubt that an increase in TV revenue will alleviate travel concerns. That was never an issue until you interjected it into a CUSA conversation. I will welcome as many Marshall, Charlotte and ODU fans to Greenville as can reasonably scrounge up some tickets. It drives up the value of my tickets. Let them buy them off Stubhub, etc. I hope we can expand our stadium in the near future.

How in the world did this thread get hijacked into a pissing contest about the nBe projected TV revenues?

It's about C-USA's regional model!!!!! Nothing about the Big East or TV revenues.

Both sides are at fault

That's that new member math. Sure, CUSA had a **** contract with almost the exact same teams, but this time, its different!! LMFAO at you clowns. Especially you UCF f*****s.

(05-31-2012 11:39 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  10 Mil a year in tv revenue will alleviate any travel woes we have.

As long as your players understand what's really important, that's all that really matters.

Imagine that some ucf fan hijacking a CUSA a tread to talk about NBE money. Other than oldtiger and a very few others I think it's time to send the defectors on their way via a forum ban.

(05-31-2012 12:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  I can source one-sided extremes too.

BE members currently get $3.125 million TV revenues per school. Why would ESPN pay more--over three times more--when replacing established powerhouses with huge fan bases such as West Virginia, Syracuse, and Pitt with schools like SMU, Central Florida, and San Diego State?

(05-31-2012 01:37 PM)Lee Moses Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 12:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  I can source one-sided extremes too.

BE members currently get $3.125 million TV revenues per school. Why would ESPN pay more--over three times more--when replacing established powerhouses with huge fan bases such as West Virginia, Syracuse, and Pitt with schools like SMU, Central Florida, and San Diego State?

Personally I think it's because of all the football death matches we will be served each fall. Temple-Memphis smu-Sdsu and Rutgers-Ucf who hasn't been waiting for those match ups all summer long. I bet they will get 500 quadrillion for that line up. Hell way I hear I down here in MS is most of the SEC schools are taking bids to tear down their stadiums because they just can't compete with the NBE.

(05-31-2012 01:36 PM)cyc46 Wrote:  Imagine that some ucf fan hijacking a CUSA a tread to talk about NBE money. Other than oldtiger and a very few others I think it's time to send the defectors on their way via a forum ban.

I agree 100%. I'm pretty much **** full of it. It's the same guys 90% of the time.

(05-31-2012 01:45 PM)cyc46 Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 01:37 PM)Lee Moses Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 12:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  I can source one-sided extremes too.

BE members currently get $3.125 million TV revenues per school. Why would ESPN pay more--over three times more--when replacing established powerhouses with huge fan bases such as West Virginia, Syracuse, and Pitt with schools like SMU, Central Florida, and San Diego State?

Personally I think it's because of all the football death matches we will be served each fall. Temple-Memphis smu-Sdsu and Rutgers-Ucf who hasn't been waiting for those match ups all summer long. I bet they will get 500 quadrillion for that line up. Hell way I hear I down here in MS is most of the SEC schools are taking bids to tear down their stadiums because they just can't compete with the NBE.

I love how you skirt around the real rivalries. It says more about how you really feel about the nBE than your pathetic (and erroneous) attempts to somehow bring the conference down.

Anyhow, What about rivalries like Louisville / Memphis / Cinci? Or Uconn / Temple / Rutgers? UCF / USF? BYU / Boise (potentially)? Houston / SMU? SDSU / Boise? Navy / SMU / Rutgers?

But you've got us beat, I mean with the powerhouse rivalries coming from ODU, UTSA, and Charlotte, how will the nBE ever compete?

(05-31-2012 01:37 PM)Lee Moses Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 12:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  I can source one-sided extremes too.

BE members currently get $3.125 million TV revenues per school. Why would ESPN pay more--over three times more--when replacing established powerhouses with huge fan bases such as West Virginia, Syracuse, and Pitt with schools like SMU, Central Florida, and San Diego State?

Perfectly valid and concise reasoning is explained in the article.

(05-31-2012 01:36 PM)cyc46 Wrote:  Imagine that some ucf fan hijacking a CUSA a tread to talk about NBE money. Other than oldtiger and a very few others I think it's time to send the defectors on their way via a forum ban.

From this thread, it appears armoredupknight made a valid (yet uncalled for) comment about how the Big East compares to C-USA. Sh!t hit the fan when the marshall fan had to add their sarcastic, cynical .02.

Snoop over on the NBE board and see exactly what some of these hypocrites say about the schools and board over here. The majority of them talk crap on a daily basis over there and then come here and complain that this board is now different. Hold on though some poster is going to say but we have a right to be here but cyc46 we want CUSA to do well we really liked it here, really because what I think a majority of us want is for you to pick up your **** get the hell out don't let the door hit you on the ass and to kick your teeth in next year whenever we get the chance but hey that's just me.

(05-31-2012 01:56 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 01:45 PM)cyc46 Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 01:37 PM)Lee Moses Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 12:44 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  I can source one-sided extremes too.

BE members currently get $3.125 million TV revenues per school. Why would ESPN pay more--over three times more--when replacing established powerhouses with huge fan bases such as West Virginia, Syracuse, and Pitt with schools like SMU, Central Florida, and San Diego State?

Personally I think it's because of all the football death matches we will be served each fall. Temple-Memphis smu-Sdsu and Rutgers-Ucf who hasn't been waiting for those match ups all summer long. I bet they will get 500 quadrillion for that line up. Hell way I hear I down here in MS is most of the SEC schools are taking bids to tear down their stadiums because they just can't compete with the NBE.

I love how you skirt around the real rivalries. It says more about how you really feel about the nBE than your pathetic (and erroneous) attempts to somehow bring the conference down.

Anyhow, What about rivalries like Louisville / Memphis / Cinci? Or Uconn / Temple / Rutgers? UCF / USF? BYU / Boise (potentially)? Houston / SMU? SDSU / Boise? Navy / SMU / Rutgers?

But you've got us beat, I mean with the powerhouse rivalries coming from ODU, UTSA, and Charlotte, how will the nBE ever compete?

This is the reason CUSA should have really told the defectors to go ahead and hitch their wagon in 2012. You cant get these guys out of the conference fast enough. They dont want to be there and others do. I think the Temple, WVU, Butler, VCU type adds/exits are the way to go.

The rest of CUSA have 0 interest in what UCF, Houston, SMU and Memphis have to say. Its like an excruciating long good bye to the cousins you never want to see again. Not sure why they cant just pay up (with all that nBE $$$) and leave now.