...Boise State develops HEATED rivalries with UConn, Cincy, Louisville & USF...

Seriously, how is this, in ANY way, "Bad for TV Demand.."

(05-25-2012 09:35 PM)BadWillHunting Wrote:  ...Boise State develops HEATED rivalries with UConn, Cincy, Louisville & USF...

Seriously, how is this, in ANY way, "Bad for TV Demand.."

I find it more likely that Boise develops rivalries with Cincy and/or Louisville than USF or Uconn

USF: They are a senior laden team this year (2012), and if they don't do well this year, they may not do well for a long time.

UConn: Always under-appreciated, not likely to pull the upset and force a high emotion game. Sorry Huskies.


Don't neglect the other teams coming in. We don't know how well SDSU will be come 2013. I expect UCF to be VERY strong in 2013, considering we are breaking in a powerful sophomore QB this year, as well as a Sophomore RB in Storm Johnson, and a mostly Sophomore / Junior Oline that will only get better between this year and next year, Who knows, mayhaps there will be a strong Boise / UCF rivalry.

(05-25-2012 09:39 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(05-25-2012 09:35 PM)BadWillHunting Wrote:  ...Boise State develops HEATED rivalries with UConn, Cincy, Louisville & USF...

Seriously, how is this, in ANY way, "Bad for TV Demand.."

I find it more likely that Boise develops rivalries with Cincy and/or Louisville than USF or Uconn

USF: They are a senior laden team this year (2012), and if they don't do well this year, they may not do well for a long time.

UConn: Always under-appreciated, not likely to pull the upset and force a high emotion game. Sorry Huskies.


Don't neglect the other teams coming in. We don't know how well SDSU will be come 2013. I expect UCF to be VERY strong in 2013, considering we are breaking in a powerful sophomore QB this year, as well as a Sophomore RB in Storm Johnson, and a mostly Sophomore / Junior Oline that will only get better between this year and next year, Who knows, mayhaps there will be a strong Boise / UCF rivalry.

We actually have recruited more from Florida & the NorthEast than TN/KY or OH in recent years...

This year, our #1 Corner and #1 LB are from Florida & Georgia. I expect a LOT of TV demand for games vs Boise State, even for year 1.... Mostly because we seem to generate great TV-demand in our Eastern TZ Games in recent years.

Boise will foster rivalries with SD, Houston and SMU. They won't play the eastern teams enough to foster a rivalry.

(05-25-2012 09:39 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(05-25-2012 09:35 PM)BadWillHunting Wrote:  ...Boise State develops HEATED rivalries with UConn, Cincy, Louisville & USF...

Seriously, how is this, in ANY way, "Bad for TV Demand.."

I find it more likely that Boise develops rivalries with Cincy and/or Louisville than USF or Uconn

USF: They are a senior laden team this year (2012), and if they don't do well this year, they may not do well for a long time.

UConn: Always under-appreciated, not likely to pull the upset and force a high emotion game. Sorry Huskies.


Don't neglect the other teams coming in. We don't know how well SDSU will be come 2013. I expect UCF to be VERY strong in 2013, considering we are breaking in a powerful sophomore QB this year, as well as a Sophomore RB in Storm Johnson, and a mostly Sophomore / Junior Oline that will only get better between this year and next year, Who knows, mayhaps there will be a strong Boise / UCF rivalry.

I'm pretty-sure a strong UCF rivalry will also develop over-time. Hard to picture in the short-term... We have recruited FL for years, and are no stranger to the realities.

(05-25-2012 09:46 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Boise will foster rivalries with SD, Houston and SMU. They won't play the eastern teams enough to foster a rivalry.

I wouldn't be so sure, my dear friend...

It only takes a certain game (or Two..) to rouse-up that rivalry-rage in football. By contrast, it's easy to say that Saint Johns lost to 'Cuse, because of a rough road stint/etc.." because they play far more games every season.

FB fans get there in a hurry.

Example:

Last time Boise played Louisville was the 2004 Liberty Bowl. Decided by a handful of points, it sticks in the craw of our FB fans.

What was different in 2004 than lately is that it's clear from that game that UL was far deeper & more talented than we could have hoped to be. We stayed in that game so long only due to coaching & moxie. Times are different for us now, and we have better talent to play the game.

(05-25-2012 09:50 PM)BadWillHunting Wrote:  

(05-25-2012 09:46 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Boise will foster rivalries with SD, Houston and SMU. They won't play the eastern teams enough to foster a rivalry.

I wouldn't be so sure, my dear friend...

It only takes a certain game (or Two..) to rouse-up that rivalry-rage in football. By contrast, it's easy to say that Saint Johns lost to 'Cuse, because of a rough road stint/etc.." because they play far more games every season.

FB fans get there in a hurry.

Example:

Last time Boise played Louisville was the 2004 Liberty Bowl. Decided by a handful of points, it sticks in the craw of our FB fans.

What was different in 2004 than lately is that it's clear from that game that UL was far deeper & more talented than we could have hoped to be. We stayed in that game so long only due to coaching & moxie. Times are different for us now, and we have better talent to play the game.

My point is that rivalries form faster within a division than outside the division.

Now if we went to 16 teams and used my pod approach everyone would play each othe more often especially the best teams which would lead to rivals from coast to coast. In the two division format these teams will rarely play each other.

I think Boise will be met with hostilities in all BIG EAST road contests. I hope the first time they come to Nippert it will be a night game!

(05-25-2012 09:59 PM)True Bearcat Wrote:  I think Boise will be met with hostilities in all BIG EAST road contests. I hope the first time they come to Nippert it will be a night game!

Generate the Demand...

We're not ignorant of the media, we try to use them to our own ends...

(05-25-2012 09:56 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(05-25-2012 09:50 PM)BadWillHunting Wrote:  

(05-25-2012 09:46 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Boise will foster rivalries with SD, Houston and SMU. They won't play the eastern teams enough to foster a rivalry.

I wouldn't be so sure, my dear friend...

It only takes a certain game (or Two..) to rouse-up that rivalry-rage in football. By contrast, it's easy to say that Saint Johns lost to 'Cuse, because of a rough road stint/etc.." because they play far more games every season.

FB fans get there in a hurry.

Example:

Last time Boise played Louisville was the 2004 Liberty Bowl. Decided by a handful of points, it sticks in the craw of our FB fans.

What was different in 2004 than lately is that it's clear from that game that UL was far deeper & more talented than we could have hoped to be. We stayed in that game so long only due to coaching & moxie. Times are different for us now, and we have better talent to play the game.

My point is that rivalries form faster within a division than outside the division.

Now if we went to 16 teams and used my pod approach everyone would play each othe more often especially the best teams which would lead to rivals from coast to coast. In the two division format these teams will rarely play each other.

You might be right about that.

I don't think the "initial" divisional-setup will have much, or anything to do with the later & 16-program situation.

(05-25-2012 09:59 PM)True Bearcat Wrote:  I think Boise will be met with hostilities in all BIG EAST road contests. I hope the first time they come to Nippert it will be a night game!

We're OK with that.

Just remember that our travelling fans are there to support US, YOU, & the Conference Banner...

Travelling fans should never be mistreated in CFB.

(05-25-2012 09:56 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(05-25-2012 09:50 PM)BadWillHunting Wrote:  

(05-25-2012 09:46 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Boise will foster rivalries with SD, Houston and SMU. They won't play the eastern teams enough to foster a rivalry.

I wouldn't be so sure, my dear friend...

It only takes a certain game (or Two..) to rouse-up that rivalry-rage in football. By contrast, it's easy to say that Saint Johns lost to 'Cuse, because of a rough road stint/etc.." because they play far more games every season.

FB fans get there in a hurry.

Example:

Last time Boise played Louisville was the 2004 Liberty Bowl. Decided by a handful of points, it sticks in the craw of our FB fans.

What was different in 2004 than lately is that it's clear from that game that UL was far deeper & more talented than we could have hoped to be. We stayed in that game so long only due to coaching & moxie. Times are different for us now, and we have better talent to play the game.

My point is that rivalries form faster within a division than outside the division.

Now if we went to 16 teams and used my pod approach everyone would play each othe more often especially the best teams which would lead to rivals from coast to coast. In the two division format these teams will rarely play each other.

I agree with you that rivalries grow faster inside divisions, but it will depend on how the BE divisions are set up. It may not be a simple East-West split. If we go with the non-geographic model, and split up FL, TX and the West, then... anything is possible.

(05-25-2012 09:39 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(05-25-2012 09:35 PM)BadWillHunting Wrote:  ...Boise State develops HEATED rivalries with UConn, Cincy, Louisville & USF...

Seriously, how is this, in ANY way, "Bad for TV Demand.."

I find it more likely that Boise develops rivalries with Cincy and/or Louisville than USF or Uconn

USF: They are a senior laden team this year (2012), and if they don't do well this year, they may not do well for a long time.

UConn: Always under-appreciated, not likely to pull the upset and force a high emotion game. Sorry Huskies.


Don't neglect the other teams coming in. We don't know how well SDSU will be come 2013. I expect UCF to be VERY strong in 2013, considering we are breaking in a powerful sophomore QB this year, as well as a Sophomore RB in Storm Johnson, and a mostly Sophomore / Junior Oline that will only get better between this year and next year, Who knows, mayhaps there will be a strong Boise / UCF rivalry.

Don't fool yourself while USF will be very upperclass driven in starting positions this year. We have a lot of jrs and sophomores that will be very good in 2013. Te question mark for 2013 will be QB.

2012 projected starters for the Bulls
Defense four seniors, seven juniors
Offense seven seniors,one junior and three sophomores

Many of those seniors are backed up by juniors and sophomores that are getting quite a bit of paying experience.

While 2012 will be an experienced squad, I dont see a big drop off for 2013

Looking forward to Boise visiting the Rent. I hope it is a night game. The place will be jacked. UCONN should field a solid squad in 2013.

I think Louisville-Boise will be a strong contest. Louisville and Boise held a very similar path in the 90's and early 2000's and had couple good bowl contests in that era. The 04 Liberty bowl between the two had a lot of players that played in both the Orange Bowl and Fiesta Bowl two years later.

I'm very confident in UofL football this next season, I think we will have the type of season that gives us national attention. Coming into the 2013 season I think Louisville vs Boise will be the marquee matchup and it will draw the most national interest.

It's not bad brother. As is....

Boise St.
Louisville
Cincy
UConn
USF
UCF
Houston
Navy
Rutgers
Temple
San Diego St.
SMU
Memphis

*Possible Additions*
Air Force?
BYU?
Fresno St.?

I don't care who you are. That is a damn good Football League. Easily a Top 5-6 league. With the Highest Ceiling of any league. Could see us even better some seasons. Hell looking at that list I see 8-12 teams capable of being in the top 25 at any given time. Not including the possible additions. My team unfortunately has a long way to go, but we are finally taking the proper steps. Upgrading facilities, we have a good coach with a great blueprint and plan in place.

There is no reason to expect anything less than something along the lines of what the ACC got or better.

Out basketball is going to be #1 and no worse then #2 every season.
Baseball is going to be top 4.
Womens basketball is #1-#2.
Softball will be top 2.
men and womens Soccer top 3.

Basically from top to bottom we will be one of the top 4-6 leagues every year with an outside chance depending on the season to be even better. On top of having that " High Ceiling" and Huge overall conference Market.

Add in even one of those possible additions and we solidify ourselves even more.

(05-27-2012 07:15 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  It's not bad brother. As is....

Boise St.
Louisville
Cincy
UConn
USF
UCF
Houston
Navy
Rutgers
Temple
San Diego St.
SMU
Memphis

*Possible Additions*
Air Force?
BYU?
Fresno St.?

I don't care who you are. That is a damn good Football League. Easily a Top 5-6 league. With the Highest Ceiling of any league. Could see us even better some seasons. Hell looking at that list I see 8-12 teams capable of being in the top 25 at any given time. Not including the possible additions. My team unfortunately has a long way to go, but we are finally taking the proper steps. Upgrading facilities, we have a good coach with a great blueprint and plan in place.

There is no reason to expect anything less than something along the lines of what the ACC got or better.

Out basketball is going to be #1 and no worse then #2 every season.
Baseball is going to be top 4.
Womens basketball is #1-#2.
Softball will be top 2.
men and womens Soccer top 3.

Basically from top to bottom we will be one of the top 4-6 leagues every year with an outside chance depending on the season to be even better. On top of having that " High Ceiling" and Huge overall conference Market.

Add in even one of those possible additions and we solidify ourselves even more.

I agree with your analysis...should be a great all around league initially. the quesiton is, will we ink a big enough deal that the per team payout will allow us to keep up with the "big 4" over time? If not, we will steadily grow worse compared to the "big 4" as we and every other conference (incl ACC) get pushed further and further in the rear view...

We are going to be young in 2013 but we signed a class of OL this year with the BE in mind...

6-7 300
6-6 295
6-6 300
6-4 275

All had a bunch of PAC offers and are talented as hell. I think 2014 is the year we really make some noise in the BE.

I am so excited about the move to the Big East and can't wait for 2013. New horizons for my Aztecs.

I also love reading this board for months and seeing that the Aztecs are really not even being considered as a contender of any type. Sort of the football team that just fills out a spot on the Big East roster as sort of a punching bag.

I really think Boise State will be the class of this league the first couple of years and I fully expect the Aztecs to shock many in the East.

The Sleeping Giant is awake and ready to rumble.

(05-28-2012 07:05 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(05-27-2012 07:15 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  It's not bad brother. As is....

Boise St.
Louisville
Cincy
UConn
USF
UCF
Houston
Navy
Rutgers
Temple
San Diego St.
SMU
Memphis

*Possible Additions*
Air Force?
BYU?
Fresno St.?

I don't care who you are. That is a damn good Football League. Easily a Top 5-6 league. With the Highest Ceiling of any league. Could see us even better some seasons. Hell looking at that list I see 8-12 teams capable of being in the top 25 at any given time. Not including the possible additions. My team unfortunately has a long way to go, but we are finally taking the proper steps. Upgrading facilities, we have a good coach with a great blueprint and plan in place.

There is no reason to expect anything less than something along the lines of what the ACC got or better.

Out basketball is going to be #1 and no worse then #2 every season.
Baseball is going to be top 4.
Womens basketball is #1-#2.
Softball will be top 2.
men and womens Soccer top 3.

Basically from top to bottom we will be one of the top 4-6 leagues every year with an outside chance depending on the season to be even better. On top of having that " High Ceiling" and Huge overall conference Market.

Add in even one of those possible additions and we solidify ourselves even more.

I agree with your analysis...should be a great all around league initially. the quesiton is, will we ink a big enough deal that the per team payout will allow us to keep up with the "big 4" over time? If not, we will steadily grow worse compared to the "big 4" as we and every other conference (incl ACC) get pushed further and further in the rear view...

Agreed, that's the biggest question. We should be fine and anything from 2-3.6 B over a 10 year deal would be great for us. Should keep this conference relevant. We just need to have some great showings against these "Big 4" teams and actually steal some titles from them. I'm sorry but in the last 6 seasons its not like anyone of the Big 4 minus the SEC has done **** anyways.

Big 12 hasn't done ****, B1G hasn't done ****, Pac 12 hasn't done ****. They might as well just give the National Title to Alabama, Florida, or LSU every season... Screw the playoff, screw TV deals. We might as well not even play the damn games if its coming down to less then 60 teams actually vying for a chance at the title. Only 7-10 teams have a realistic chance of winning it anyway from those conferences combined.