On the Tim Brando show today Tim had Tony Barnhart on and asked him if he thinks C-USA and the MWC will have just as much power as the new Big East. Tony said yes becuase when you look at the teams left in C-USA and the MWC he doesn't see anyway the two leagues won't have just as much power and say as the Big East when you look at who will be playing football in that league. Tim Brando agreed and said he thinks Boise State and SDSU will never play a down in the Big East when all is said and done.

This thread will be fun.

Well, that settles that.

Zero = Zero = Zero. CUSA, the MWC and the BE will all have zero power. I am not sure that any has any power now, except the BE gets to send a 7-5 team to a BCS game and embarrass the entire system in doing so.

(05-14-2012 04:32 PM)BMcKitchup Wrote:  Zero = Zero = Zero. CUSA, the MWC and the BE will all have zero power. I am not sure that any has any power now, except the BE gets to send a 7-5 team to a BCS game and embarrass the entire system in doing so.

This.

(05-14-2012 04:25 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  This thread will be fun.

(05-14-2012 04:32 PM)BMcKitchup Wrote:  Zero = Zero = Zero. CUSA, the MWC and the BE will all have zero power. I am not sure that any has any power now, except the BE gets to send a 7-5 team to a BCS game and embarrass the entire system in doing so.

End the thread.

CUSA vs MWC vs Big East is just a match to see who is the tallest midget. Until all conferences have an equal distribution of power, that's how it will be.

(05-14-2012 04:46 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  CUSA vs MWC vs Big East is just a match to see who is the tallest midget. Until all conferences have an equal distribution of power, that's how it will be.

Well CUSA certainly did not move up this round but I think any non Kool Aid drinking fan knows that the Big East has officially joined the ranks of biggest midget battle. They will be ahead on points based on their TV contract but seasoned midgets like CUSA and MWC know how to deal the new Big Least some knock out blows.

(05-14-2012 04:32 PM)BMcKitchup Wrote:  Zero = Zero = Zero. CUSA, the MWC and the BE will all have zero power. I am not sure that any has any power now, except the BE gets to send a 7-5 team to a BCS game and embarrass the entire system in doing so.

Yup.



And wherever the ACC falls, it will will be better than BEv3/CUSA/MWC.

Which begs the question (maybe). Could the BEST of BE/CUSA/MWC be just as competitive as the ACC in one conference, like the ramblings a few months back?

The nBE is essentially the best of the best from the old CUSA and MWC. The MWC and CUSA just backfilled with a bunch of start-up programs, further increasing the disparity. Yet the three are somehow on the same level!?!?

LMAO... This thread needs a reality check.

They're basically correct. The BE plays better ball than we do right now, but has no inherent advantages. They'll get a better TV deal, but nothing like the $10 Mill minimum per/per they're trying to sell to putative members.
It would be a different story if they had that AQ status that they enjoyed for a decade plus, but now they actually have to market themselves on their merits.

I don't know if Boise or SDS will play ball there or not, but it wouldn't surprise me if they don't. Just don't see the money differential warranting it.

And that's not to say that C-USA teams wouldn't leave for the BE if invited. Hopefully, we have a large buyout to stop that. But if we don't, they probably would leave because of the competition...or fear of competition if that team stays and others leave.

(05-14-2012 05:04 PM)UCF-ENG Wrote:  The nBE is essentially the best of the best from the old CUSA and MWC. The MWC and CUSA just backfilled with a bunch of start-up programs, further increasing the disparity. Yet the three are somehow on the same level!?!?

LMAO... This thread needs a reality check.

The best of the best from the old CUSA?

SMU....I mean really. Has never won the conference in anything. Terrible in basketball. Decent at best in football. Don't even field a baseball team.

UCF....one of the better football programs despite a bad year last year. Annual underachievers in basketball. Can't beat us in anything. Baseball was not good until this year.

Houston....one of the better football programs, but hasn't won conference since 2006. Bad at basketball. Bad at baseball.

Just be thankful you reside in large markets, fans of defectors. That is your only saving grace.

The Big East football members should break away from the basketball schools assuming Lousville is gone that would give them 12 members for football. Then add the top 6 schools from C-USA and the MWC. That would be ECU, USM. Tulsa from C-USA and Air Force, Fresno State, Colorado State from the MWC. Form two 9 team divisions and become the first super conference. Beat the SEC and the rest to the punch. This would give the league a CLEAR advantage over C-USA MWC and the rest of the lesser leagues plus ensure they keep Boise State. But the Big East doing something smart? NAH!

(05-14-2012 05:04 PM)UCF-ENG Wrote:  The nBE is essentially the best of the best from the old CUSA and MWC. The MWC and CUSA just backfilled with a bunch of start-up programs, further increasing the disparity. Yet the three are somehow on the same level!?!?

LMAO... This thread needs a reality check.

Really?? Check your record vs ECU and Southern Miss.

(05-14-2012 05:04 PM)UCF-ENG Wrote:  The nBE is essentially the best of the best from the old CUSA and MWC. The MWC and CUSA just backfilled with a bunch of start-up programs, further increasing the disparity. Yet the three are somehow on the same level!?!?

LMAO... This thread needs a reality check.

Well.....

Since 2005:

C-USA Football Championships:

Schools leaving: 3
Schools staying: 4

yep. The best of the best.

(05-14-2012 05:24 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 05:11 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 05:04 PM)UCF-ENG Wrote:  The nBE is essentially the best of the best from the old CUSA and MWC. The MWC and CUSA just backfilled with a bunch of start-up programs, further increasing the disparity. Yet the three are somehow on the same level!?!?

LMAO... This thread needs a reality check.

The best of the best from the old CUSA?

SMU....I mean really. Has never won the conference in anything. Terrible in basketball. Decent at best in football. Don't even field a baseball team.

UCF....one of the better football programs despite a bad year last year. Annual underachievers in basketball. Can't beat us in anything. Baseball was not good until this year.

Houston....one of the better football programs, but hasn't won conference since 2006. Bad at basketball. Bad at baseball.

Don't forget Memphis.

Too easy.

(05-14-2012 05:04 PM)UCF-ENG Wrote:  The nBE is essentially the best of the best from the old CUSA and MWC. The MWC and CUSA just backfilled with a bunch of start-up programs, further increasing the disparity. Yet the three are somehow on the same level!?!?

LMAO... This thread needs a reality check.

It's truly mind-blowing how many nBE fans (and CUSA fans) can't wrap their minds around this. The new BCS will treat the nBE exactly the same as MWC and CUSA because..........

YOU AREN'T PART OF THE OLD MONEY BIG REVENUE GENERATING PROGRAMS!!!! This country club is made up of Pac12, Big10, Big12, SEC and yes...even the ACC. It doesn't matter who (if anyone) the ACC loses, they'll just raid the **** out of the Big East taking anybody they want and they'll still be looked at as superior to the elites that control this crap.

That's all this amounts to and anybody that thinks the BCS PAYOUTS has anything to do with who's stronger on the field is an idiot. It has absolutely ZERO to do with earning it on the field. The ACC, nBE, MWC and CUSA will each have a small window to get into the playoff but only one will receive an equal payout to the real "Big 4". Does the BCS give a **** that the ACC sucks ass in BCS bowls??? HELL NO, because they've got more fans, more money and more political pull than the nBE, MWC and CUSA does combined probably.

Once again, just another pissing match because you don't get it.

UCF, Houston, SMU vs ECU, Southern Miss, Tulsa? Memphis was a basketball thing I don't even count them.