I hate the fact that everything, and I mean everything, is being played out in the media. We got BOT Chairman, Presidents, AD's, and Commish's adding their .02 every day. That is the one thing I'm glad about in reference to Pitt and Cuse heading to the ACC. Our move practically was overnight. There was some speculation on the move leading up to it.

More things I hate is the loss of rivalries. Some of these series are 100+ games, and suddenly lost due to greed or whatever. At what point does a Texas fan miss aTm when they're playing TCU instead. Losing PSU was a big blow, and losing WVU will be another blow on our schedule. Part of the reason why I thought it would've been smart putting Maryland on the schedule. I could see that game being a solid rivalry over time(see Caps vs Pens, Ravens vs Steelers).

Sure some things are meant to change over time. Everything changes. But these changes are happening all too often the past 10 years.

/rant

On another note y'all. If y'all want to get away from the rift raft of the CR board, feel free to post your feelings on realignment. I personally don't care if outsiders post here as well as long as they can keep a cordial conversation.

Thanks for the invite. Personally, I prefer regional conferences. I relish the idea of an all-Atlantic Coast ACC. I don't want just NE or just SE either - I love the idea of N vs S (the oldest rivalry of them all!). Here's hoping we can all stick together and create something FUN! (that is what this is supposed to be about, right?)

I'm just disappointed that after hanging on the edge of our seat every year in the Big East wondering if another raid was going to come, we finally get the call to join a more stable conference and now rumors are swirling about a possible raid on the ACC.

I was really excited about the 14 team league the ACC put together. I couldn't be happier that we are going with Syracuse. I really like the idea of being able to play VT, Miami, and BC again and I was really excited about playing GT, FSU, and Clemson. If the league gets split up it's going to be personally disappointing to me on a major scale.

I'm really disappointed in what the FSU BOT President said. I think his comments were really unprofessional and think he would have been wise not to make them. Regardless of how he feels or how FSU Feels, going public like that is probably not the best way to solve anything. It was really akin to Oliver Luck running his mouth publicly about leaving the Big East which I think was also a similarly bad idea.

I agree with what the Big XII commissioner said recently - we could use a period of rest from realignment. Who knows if he actually means it, though?

(05-16-2012 01:11 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I hate the fact that everything, and I mean everything, is being played out in the media. We got BOT Chairman, Presidents, AD's, and Commish's adding their .02 every day. That is the one thing I'm glad about in reference to Pitt and Cuse heading to the ACC. Our move practically was overnight. There was some speculation on the move leading up to it.

More things I hate is the loss of rivalries. Some of these series are 100+ games, and suddenly lost due to greed or whatever. At what point does a Texas fan miss aTm when they're playing TCU instead. Losing PSU was a big blow, and losing WVU will be another blow on our schedule. Part of the reason why I thought it would've been smart putting Maryland on the schedule. I could see that game being a solid rivalry over time(see Caps vs Pens, Ravens vs Steelers).

Sure some things are meant to change over time. Everything changes. But these changes are happening all too often the past 10 years.

/rant

Dream with me...

Boston College
UConn
Penn State
Pitt
Rutgers
Syracuse
Temple
West Virginia

(Pitt's 3 most played teams all time)
Pitt - WVU - 104 games
Pitt - PSU - 96 games
Pitt - SU - 67 games (Tied with Notre Dame)

(SU's 3 most played teams all time)
SU - PSU - 70 games
SU - Pitt - 67 games
SU - WVU - 59 games

That would be sweet OC, but not gonna happen.

The Dude of WVu on an Oklahoma podcast.

Talks about many things. It's 48 minutes long.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/tal...457&cmd=tc

Highlights: Taken from the WVu Scout Board

FSU and Clemson began talking to the Big 12 last November
FSU is invetible add for Big 12, too many burnt bridges
Georgia Tech now more attractice to Big 12 than Clemson because of ATL market but it is neck and neck
Clemson likely add at 13 if not 12.
Most likely next add is Pitt, Notre Dame with conference affiliation not football because of GT and Pitt add.
Luck is the ACC intermediary
Jimbo Fisher playing a big role and some FSU booster who helped Fisher and force BB out
Timing most likely late July
Probably major cool down in news over the next couple of weeks in part to threats by ACC to sue for tampering
ESPN contract speculated to be really weak for the ACC since they knew that those schools have been talking and could leave, hedging...
Everybody saying slow down and distancing is right out of the Mike Slive, SEC playbook.
VPI probably SEC bound. Maryland athletic department in bad shape financially, Miami Prez wanting to reduce sports budgets and considered kind of toxic by the Big 12 with NCAA sanctions highly likely.
ACC would try to pick off Louisville, UCONN, Georgetown to become the elite BB league.
Pitt likely number 14. TV partners want 14. Disparity in ACC contractt and Big 12 really more like $9M out of the gate, adding 13th member triggers a renegotiation with TV and that could make the disparity really huge. GT worried about $$$, big 12 has declared war on the SEC for supremecy and top to bottom the Big 12 would be better.
Also suggested GT approached Big Ten with little league interest due to location and not wanting to split up more of the Big Ten network revenue. Sounds like Big Ten wants to sit on the sidelines and possibly target a school or two versus be solicited.

(05-17-2012 04:48 AM)Hoquista Wrote:  The Dude of WVu on an Oklahoma podcast.

Talks about many things. It's 48 minutes long.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/tal...457&cmd=tc

Highlights: Taken from the WVu Scout Board

I don't know, maybe this stuff does happen... but there's a common link to all of these rumors: WVU.

(05-17-2012 07:52 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-17-2012 04:48 AM)Hoquista Wrote:  The Dude of WVu on an Oklahoma podcast.

Talks about many things. It's 48 minutes long.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/tal...457&cmd=tc

Highlights: Taken from the WVu Scout Board

I don't know, maybe this stuff does happen... but there's a common link to all of these rumors: WVU.

I'm not saying they are true.

(05-16-2012 02:58 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(05-16-2012 01:11 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I hate the fact that everything, and I mean everything, is being played out in the media. We got BOT Chairman, Presidents, AD's, and Commish's adding their .02 every day. That is the one thing I'm glad about in reference to Pitt and Cuse heading to the ACC. Our move practically was overnight. There was some speculation on the move leading up to it.

More things I hate is the loss of rivalries. Some of these series are 100+ games, and suddenly lost due to greed or whatever. At what point does a Texas fan miss aTm when they're playing TCU instead. Losing PSU was a big blow, and losing WVU will be another blow on our schedule. Part of the reason why I thought it would've been smart putting Maryland on the schedule. I could see that game being a solid rivalry over time(see Caps vs Pens, Ravens vs Steelers).

Sure some things are meant to change over time. Everything changes. But these changes are happening all too often the past 10 years.

/rant

Dream with me...

Boston College
UConn
Penn State
Pitt
Rutgers
Syracuse
Temple
West Virginia

(Pitt's 3 most played teams all time)
Pitt - WVU - 104 games
Pitt - PSU - 96 games
Pitt - SU - 67 games (Tied with Notre Dame)

(SU's 3 most played teams all time)
SU - PSU - 70 games
SU - Pitt - 67 games
SU - WVU - 59 games

Don't want UCONN. Once Calhoun and his cheating BS are gone they will be obscure in hoops anyway.

Don't want WVU, their athletics yeah but they just can't get their academics in order to be part of the ACC

(05-17-2012 04:48 AM)Hoquista Wrote:  The Dude of WVu on an Oklahoma podcast.

Talks about many things. It's 48 minutes long.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/tal...457&cmd=tc

Highlights: Taken from the WVU Scout Board

All I needed to know.

That dude is such a freakin tool!!!!!!!!!!!!

(05-17-2012 04:48 AM)Hoquista Wrote:  The Dude of WVu on an Oklahoma podcast.

Talks about many things. It's 48 minutes long.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/tal...457&cmd=tc

Highlights: Taken from the WVu Scout Board

FSU and Clemson began talking to the Big 12 last November
FSU is invetible add for Big 12, too many burnt bridges
Georgia Tech now more attractice to Big 12 than Clemson because of ATL market but it is neck and neck
Clemson likely add at 13 if not 12.
Most likely next add is Pitt, Notre Dame with conference affiliation not football because of GT and Pitt add.
Luck is the ACC intermediary
Jimbo Fisher playing a big role and some FSU booster who helped Fisher and force BB out
Timing most likely late July
Probably major cool down in news over the next couple of weeks in part to threats by ACC to sue for tampering
ESPN contract speculated to be really weak for the ACC since they knew that those schools have been talking and could leave, hedging...
Everybody saying slow down and distancing is right out of the Mike Slive, SEC playbook.
VPI probably SEC bound. Maryland athletic department in bad shape financially, Miami Prez wanting to reduce sports budgets and considered kind of toxic by the Big 12 with NCAA sanctions highly likely.
ACC would try to pick off Louisville, UCONN, Georgetown to become the elite BB league.
Pitt likely number 14. TV partners want 14. Disparity in ACC contractt and Big 12 really more like $9M out of the gate, adding 13th member triggers a renegotiation with TV and that could make the disparity really huge. GT worried about $$$, big 12 has declared war on the SEC for supremecy and top to bottom the Big 12 would be better.
Also suggested GT approached Big Ten with little league interest due to location and not wanting to split up more of the Big Ten network revenue. Sounds like Big Ten wants to sit on the sidelines and possibly target a school or two versus be solicited.

The comment in bold invalidates everything in that whole post. Louisville is not the type of school that's attractive to ACC member presidents.

This is simply West Virginia attempting to exact revenge on the ACC for not being invited back in the 50's when the league formed. Nothing more, nothing less.

Any conversations FSU had with the Big Texas XII are centered around FSU gaining leverage to adjust the divisions. Nothing more, nothing less.

well stated ecuacc4ever