TCU's president was ecstatic that SMU and Rice would be reunited with the Frogs in CUSA too. His boosters weren't. How many downs of football did TCU play in CUSA with SMU and Rice?

If the ACC puts us a competitive disadvantage to our SEC rivals IPTAY will force the issue, and Barker will have no choice than to go along with what they want. It's the golden rule....he who has the gold rules and IPTAY pays the bills on the athletic side of the house.

I think it's interesting that Clemson's Pres gives an interview in SC and only people in Missouri hear it.

(05-09-2012 09:41 AM)bk1714 Wrote:  I think it's interesting that Clemson's Pres gives an interview in SC and only people in Missouri hear it.

And its a Carolina fan in Missouri. Sorry, that MV WVU guy with multiple personalities has more credibility.

Now that's funny, bullet...

Lets keep in mind that the Clemson President is speaking "as of right now". The reason people appear like they are lying about conference re-alignment is that as soon as something changes, people's outlook's change.

Oliver Luck said WVU wasnt looking to leave the BE until Pitt and Cuse left.

In Clemson's case, let's say, FSU announced it was going to the B12 and Georgia Tech announced it was going to the B1G. Anyone think Clemson's president would have the same statement about the ACC?

And the quip about expansion referenced "possibility", which would not be in reference to Cuse and Pitt.

Rumor: Clemson is not leaving the ACC for the Big Texas XII.

Rumor: Neither is Florida State.

(05-09-2012 10:01 AM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  Rumor: Clemson is not leaving the ACC for the Big Texas XII.

Rumor: Neither is Florida State.

Sorry, but if it doesn't come from a WVU insider posting on their message board with multiple ID's, it is not a valid rumor (runor).

Yes--someone SAYS they heard a radio interview that can't be sourced--but it SOUNDS like something a president would say. Must be true then. LOL!

(05-09-2012 09:41 AM)bk1714 Wrote:  I think it's interesting that Clemson's Pres gives an interview in SC and only people in Missouri hear it.

It's certainly not being talked about on any Clemson message boards.


Potentially moving to the Big XII is, however.
Now, there's big $$$ involved .... one year of TV $$$

CBS Miami on rumor..FSU and L'ville to Big 12

I'm very skeptical about the FSU/Clemson to Big 12 rumor - but I'm even more skeptical about anything that comes from tigerboard. You'll never find a more delusional crowd than you do there. And while it pains me to defend MU fans, I have to warn you to not form impressions about MU's fanbase as a whole from that crowd, because there are many good and rational fans who shouldn't be painted with that brush.

(05-09-2012 09:58 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Oliver Luck said WVU wasnt looking to leave the BE until Pitt and Cuse left.

That is a bunch of self serving BS. I understand that WVU has to look out for its own interest, and have no problem with them doing so, but to say they weren't looking before the SU/Pitt departure is a lie.

Everybody football school in The BEast has been looking for a way out since 2004, orangefan. Public statements to the contrary don't change the facts...

Wouldnt this statement from Clemson actually correlate with the report from Miami saying FSU and Louisville rumored to the B12?

It could, HP. Then again...

(05-09-2012 11:19 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  It could, HP. Then again...

If FSU and Louisville joined the 12. The Big East will lose yet another member, either Rutgers or UConn. UConn on the surface would be more likely than Rutgers. However, I think Rutgers has more/better friends (Miami, Pitt, Syracuse, UNC) and fewer enemies (BC doesn't have a blood feud with us.) So it could go either way. If the ACC lost both FSU and Clemson they may not expand back to 14 right away.

Almost a day with no real credible sources for a radio interview that would be blowing up Cfb news outlets? Smells like bs.

I wouldn't know, Sammy. My alergies are giving me fits right now. I can't smell a thing...

Look, I am not saying any moves are going to be made but if Clemson is going to go then their way of getting out of the ACC is to claim that it has been irreparable damaged or is unable to reach a tv agreement close to the other majors.

IF the plan, if there even is one, is to leave after FSU then they would, for PR reasons, HAVE to have public statements of not wanting to move previously. That way they have something publicly to point at later on to show that Clemson has had no intentions of moving but find themselves with no choice.

Now that is not me saying do not pay attention to what the damned President of Clemson is saying. Perhaps the ACC is about to come out with a big announcement about a renegotiated deal and its a pretty good deal. Perhaps now the ACC is solid.

For me personally I do not care either way. I am just looking forward to seeing the landscape at the end of summer. So much as been going on in realignment that it just feels like the grand finale hasn't happened yet but who knows what that finale will be. It doesn't necessarily have to be ACC teams leaving.

(05-09-2012 09:06 AM)ringmaster Wrote:  

(05-09-2012 09:01 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Denials mean little, ringmaster. Every move that has been made has been preceeded by a denial that any discussions were taking place, with the exception of Pitt and Syracuse's move to the ACC. That announcement came out of the blue for Marinatto...

Except when your denial is as strongly stated as this one. He can't exactly take this back and put a bow on it:

absolutely no interest in leaving the ACC and if they did, they "certainly would not consider the big 12". He said the travel expense would be enormous, they do not feel Clemson would be a fit for them in any manner

It's like VT's denial of SEC rumors.

That's right. It's easy to deny rumors that have little or no basis in truth. Va Tech told the truth at the time of the rumors concerning them, and Clemson is telling the truth now. There are really only two ACC schools which have vulnerabilities that would lend to any truth in a rumor, Maryland and F.S.U. The budgetary issues for both could generate speculation about obtaining additional revenue.

Maryland and F.S.U. aren't going anywhere in my opinion. But the most likely of the unlikely would be F.S.U. They aren't really as much of a cultural fit to the ACC as the other schools. But, even if they did consider a move it would have to be for a significant increase much greater than just 7 million gross. The potential losses from donors and ticket holders could easily offset what would net out to be about a 4 million dollar gain. JR

(05-09-2012 12:27 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Look, I am not saying any moves are going to be made but if Clemson is going to go then their way of getting out of the ACC is to claim that it has been irreparable damaged or is unable to reach a tv agreement close to the other majors.

IF the plan, if there even is one, is to leave after FSU then they would, for PR reasons, HAVE to have public statements of not wanting to move previously. That way they have something publicly to point at later on to show that Clemson has had no intentions of moving but find themselves with no choice.

Now that is not me saying do not pay attention to what the damned President of Clemson is saying. Perhaps the ACC is about to come out with a big announcement about a renegotiated deal and its a pretty good deal. Perhaps now the ACC is solid.

For me personally I do not care either way. I am just looking forward to seeing the landscape at the end of summer. So much as been going on in realignment that it just feels like the grand finale hasn't happened yet but who knows what that finale will be. It doesn't necessarily have to be ACC teams leaving.

He1nous, I find Bowlsby's selection to be intriguing. I think how this all plays out now hinges on one issue. Will the Big 12 add two teams (or more) or not?

If they go ahead and add two teams I think they have proven their stability and intentions about sticking together. Then additional adds, quality adds, will be much more likely to consider a move to a conference that could offer more money, but more importantly strength of schedule.

If on the other hand they decide to stay at 10 the selection of Bowlsby indicates an entirely other direction is intended by at least UT and probably OU. Having been an AD in both the Big 10 and PAC, and having worked closely with Scott and Delany, Bowlsby's knowledge of those two conferences would make him an excellent broker for the moves of enough teams to permit the disbanding of the conference. It takes 8 to pull it off.

So, if they move to 12 the pressure could indeed shift to the ACC, or we may be looking at 24 teams between the PAC & B1G and 48 teams between the SEC, ACC & Big 12. If the latter happens I could foresee an 8 team playoff in a couple of years that would include 5 conference champs and 3 at large. Just thinking out loud. JR