Im not slamming but in todays era the hybrid just don't work....Like Notre Dame being Indy in football in todays game....It just don't work. Its like the all sports members are afraid of leaving the likes of Seton Hall, Depaul & Providence.....Its really not worth it anymore.....I think if the all sports members wanted to form a 12-16 team conference ESPN or someone would listen.

(05-07-2012 04:28 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-07-2012 04:22 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Another Dana O'Neil slam piece on the BE. What else is new?

ESPN has a major conflict of interest. The Big East should sue them for tortious interference. ESPN is intentionally trying to hurt the big east financially, and at the same time they have broadcasting rights, so they can resign the conference at a low $$$ amount.

I agree with this...ESPN is going to offer crumbs and in turn drive down how much NBC will be willing to pay you.

Imagine this scenario, ESPN offers 5 million per all sports school, you think NBC is going to pay you 15 million per all sports school just for the craps and giggles of it? Nope they are going to offer you around 8mil per all sports school and you will have no choice but to shut up and take it.

(05-07-2012 03:50 PM)wvucrazed Wrote:  Right now it is nothing but an amoebic blob. Big? Yes. East? No. Relevant? Not really.

The Big East sans West Virginia, Pittsburgh and Syracuse, certainly isn't true to Gavitt's vision and only someone with disturbed visions could conjure up the future behemoth that will partner SMU, Houston, Memphis and Central Florida on the basketball court alongside traditional powers such as Georgetown, Villanova, Seton Hall and St. John's.

Tim Burton's college conference, anyone?

This is nothing but a bastardization, a muck up of what made the Big East special before with little to make the league look enticing down the road.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...omed-start


Some interesting points about the identity of the Big East. Does it have one? Is this marriage going to work? Will be interesting to see how it all develops but it seems the media is not going to be kind to the league (not that they ever really have been, for FB anyway).

bj,
pls remove this thread wv is gone and he continues to try an find dirt on the conference.
WV CRAZED has nothing good to say ever, so get lost an find the B 12 boards dude,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

WVU fans used to hate the ESPN when they were in the BE because ESPN used every opportunity to put down the BE. Now they that they are in the B12, ESPN is all suddenly your friend?

Anything in the coming months out of ESPN's outlet should be looked at with grain of salt.

Getting rid of Marinatto has been on the agenda for a long time.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/s...54805358/1

Quote:One official from a Big East school who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation said Marinatto's ouster was long overdue, citing the lack of a clear strategy and poor communication. The official said Marinatto's departure has been on the agenda for some time.

The problem that you are missing is that ESPN does NOT want to lose BE basketball. I have heard this from espn insiders. So they are not going to offer some ridiculous low amount that would move the league into moving both football and basketball to NBC.

(05-07-2012 04:35 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(05-07-2012 04:28 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-07-2012 04:22 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Another Dana O'Neil slam piece on the BE. What else is new?

ESPN has a major conflict of interest. The Big East should sue them for tortious interference. ESPN is intentionally trying to hurt the big east financially, and at the same time they have broadcasting rights, so they can resign the conference at a low $$$ amount.

I agree with this...ESPN is going to offer crumbs and in turn drive down how much NBC will be willing to pay you.

Imagine this scenario, ESPN offers 5 million per all sports school, you think NBC is going to pay you 15 million per all sports school just for the craps and giggles of it? Nope they are going to offer you around 8mil per all sports school and you will have no choice but to shut up and take it.

You are clueless when it comes to media rights. You are even more clueless when it comes to BE's media deals. If you think people that do these negotiations are as dumb as you, you got a lot to learn.

Get lost...

(05-07-2012 04:38 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  The problem that you are missing is that ESPN does NOT want to lose BE basketball. I have heard this from espn insiders. So they are not going to offer some ridiculous low amount that would move the league into moving both football and basketball to NBC.

ESPN obviously has an agenda to drive the value of your contract down. Multiple BE posters have said so on this board. You think NBC is going to pay a huge amount over the ESPN offer? Please explain why they would do that. If ESPN drives down the value of the contract then its a win for NBC too, they don't have to pay as much.

(05-07-2012 04:43 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(05-07-2012 04:38 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  The problem that you are missing is that ESPN does NOT want to lose BE basketball. I have heard this from espn insiders. So they are not going to offer some ridiculous low amount that would move the league into moving both football and basketball to NBC.

ESPN obviously has an agenda to drive the value of your contract down. Multiple BE posters have said so on this board. You think NBC is going to pay a huge amount over the ESPN offer? Please explain why they would do that. If ESPN drives down the value of the contract then its a win for NBC too, they don't have to pay as much.

So now you think NBC and Espn are working together? Hilarious.

Ok. I won't waste one more minute of my life arguing with those that want to see worst case scenario. So enjoy. I will wait until official announcements are made. Go an enjoy the Big 12

(05-07-2012 04:43 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(05-07-2012 04:38 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  The problem that you are missing is that ESPN does NOT want to lose BE basketball. I have heard this from espn insiders. So they are not going to offer some ridiculous low amount that would move the league into moving both football and basketball to NBC.

ESPN obviously has an agenda to drive the value of your contract down. Multiple BE posters have said so on this board. You think NBC is going to pay a huge amount over the ESPN offer? Please explain why they would do that. If ESPN drives down the value of the contract then its a win for NBC too, they don't have to pay as much.

Please explain to me when the media guys would pay more for a B12 rights when it lost Missouri, A&M, Colorado and Nebraska? They added WVU, who no one else wanted and TCU? Please don't try to sell to rest of us that WVU got them the higher payout

Are you that clueless?

same could be said about the Big 12 taking on wvu and once OU and OSU split, texas will probably leave and even if they dont, the conference will still be a mess. the big 12 is just as unstable as the BE. thats why the okie schools were looking hard to get out last year

(05-07-2012 04:35 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(05-07-2012 04:28 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-07-2012 04:22 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Another Dana O'Neil slam piece on the BE. What else is new?

ESPN has a major conflict of interest. The Big East should sue them for tortious interference. ESPN is intentionally trying to hurt the big east financially, and at the same time they have broadcasting rights, so they can resign the conference at a low $$$ amount.

I agree with this...ESPN is going to offer crumbs and in turn drive down how much NBC will be willing to pay you.

Imagine this scenario, ESPN offers 5 million per all sports school, you think NBC is going to pay you 15 million per all sports school just for the craps and giggles of it? Nope they are going to offer you around 8mil per all sports school and you will have no choice but to shut up and take it.

Is this a silent auction? Everyone only gets one bid? They are going to offer just enough in the exclusive period to where they think they can retain it cheap. Then if NBC and/or Fox are serious players and the price is reasonable, ESPN will counter offer. ESPN lives on content

(05-07-2012 04:34 PM)cardshouse Wrote:  Im not slamming but in todays era the hybrid just don't work....Like Notre Dame being Indy in football in todays game....It just don't work. Its like the all sports members are afraid of leaving Notre Dame....Its really not worth it anymore.....I think if the all sports members wanted to form a 12-16 team conference ESPN or someone would listen.

FIFY

Am I missing something? Where is this perception that Cuse and Pitt are football powerhouses coming from? The quality of football in the nBe will be greater, the basketball will be on par, and they've added far greater media markets. None of this media freakout makes any sense.

(05-07-2012 04:18 PM)TripleA Wrote:  And when did Memphis become BB chopped liver?

Someone needs to remind Josh of that comment next time she wants to interview him. That was he can ask her to define "Chopped Liver".

ESPN is just pissed that their effort to destroy the Big East fell short, and the Big East has emerged even stronger than before in FB. The idea that the Big East will be stronger than the ACC & B1G isn't going over well in Bristol. It doesn't fit the script they've been using.

And contrary to what they think, the Big East FB schools have much in common - they're all schools capable of playing Division 1 FB at the highest level, but (for whatever reason) they're not wanted by any of the more established BCS conferences at this time. Take for example UConn & SMU .... they are very capable of being competitive in the ACC and Big 12, respectively. But for political reasons, they're not wanted right now by those conferences.

(05-07-2012 06:35 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  ESPN is just pissed that their effort to destroy the Big East fell short, and the Big East has emerged even stronger than before in FB.

The idea that the Big East will be stronger than the ACC & B1G isn't going over well in Bristol. It doesn't fit the script they've been using.

(05-07-2012 06:04 PM)FonzKnight Wrote:  Am I missing something? Where is this perception that Cuse and Pitt are football powerhouses coming from?

1982?

(05-07-2012 06:44 PM)Psicosis Wrote:  

(05-07-2012 06:04 PM)FonzKnight Wrote:  Am I missing something? Where is this perception that Cuse and Pitt are football powerhouses coming from?

1982?

They got basketball confused with football.

(05-07-2012 06:35 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  ESPN is just pissed that their effort to destroy the Big East fell short, and the Big East has emerged even stronger than before in FB.

Good Lord.

(05-07-2012 06:56 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-07-2012 06:35 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  ESPN is just pissed that their effort to destroy the Big East fell short, and the Big East has emerged even stronger than before in FB.

Good Lord.

Big East is stronger in football. Less marketable tho. Better on the field tho.