(05-05-2012 01:57 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(05-05-2012 01:42 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(05-05-2012 08:25 AM)General Mike Wrote:  WVU agreed to join for 2012, and Louisville wouldn't. End of story.

This. Sorry if it offends, but simply cannot be denied. Everyone knows that the B12 put themselves in a jam. They did not have appropriate exit contracts, and schools left. They were not going to have enough schools to meet their 2012 TV contract. They were desperate. They told WV they could join IF they were available in 2012. (It's extremely believable they told Lv the same thing).

Everybody knows what went down with WV and OL being willing to violate, and even being so over the top as to file that inane lawsuit... no need to rehash all that.

What is noteworthy is that if asked LV said no, and that when the BE ended up in a similar jam (thanks to WV) and asked other schools if it was possible they join early (Memphis, Boise, Houston), they all said NO. All these schools had some sense of class and loyalty to their former conference, and wanted to play by the rules. Luckily the BE found a great candidate in Temple who could, legally/appropriately, be available in 2012.

Even Pitt and Cuse declined to violate their BE exit deals and depart to the ACC for 2012. In response, I'm happy it appears the BE will indeed agree to let Pitt and Cuse out a year early.

All these schools that stuck to their agreements deserve tremendous respect for displaying class and integrity. I'm glad WV was only one rogue bad example, not the start of a trend. Luckily, it did work out great for everyone.

Please explain to me why McConnell was still trying to get UL in at the last minute if UL was not willing to leave at the same time WVU was? We have mainstream media people saying TV was the reason we got in, even UofL apologist Barry Trammel admits this. Most UL fans accept that, i'm not sure why its even worth arguing otherwise. It is a 100% fact.

Jurich would be the worse AD in the country if the reason you stated is true and I just don't believe he is that dumb.

OGB McConnell last spoke with reps of the Big12 the 1st part of August not at the last minute. The TV sports reps ( ESPN, CBS etc etc ) made it appear that was the case, but really wasn't it just made the story sound richer than it was once the Big12 had to delay the decision to bring in WVU. Yes he did talk to Boren OU president on behave of Louisville, but nothing more than anyone else has for pushing their schools. What really would have been great to see is WV stupid as Senator waste state tax payers money for his ridiculous claim that McConnell was using his power of persuasion to get Louisville in over West Virginia amongst the Big12. I wonder how many million of dollars he would have actually wasted for his stupid public comment that only made him look like a clowns ass that he is!!!

Wow, there is a lot of misinformation in this thread

WVU was picked because the networks wanted the Mountaineers . WVU is a better football tv draw then UL.

Quote:It comes down to West Virginia’s average 2.6 television rating over the past five years as opposed to 2.1 for Louisville. That half-rating point equals half a million television homes. That’s according to an industry source who had the numbers in front of him for all 120 FBS schools.

The FBS average rating is 2.2 In other words, Louisville is an average TV draw. West Virginia is an above average draw.

Big 12 inventory becomes more valuable because of West Virginia-Texas and West Virginia-Oklahoma Louisville doesn’t move the needle as much. According the industry source, that 2.1 Louisville rating was boosted significantly by a pair of two five-year-old results – games in 2006 against West Virginia and Rutgers.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry...2/33016033


Jackson


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Quote:What really would have been great to see is WV stupid as Senator waste state tax payers money for his ridiculous claim that McConnell was using his power of persuasion to get Louisville in over West Virginia amongst the Big12. I wonder how many million of dollars he would have actually wasted for his stupid public comment that only made him look like a clowns ass that he is!!!

^^Doesn't understand WV politics at all.

The Senator that you are complaining about is Joe Manchin. Manchin, while governor, forced the Marshall football series onto to WVU (thus earning for himself an anti-WVU rep around the state). When running for the senate, he was challenged by a political newcomer and morgantown native. Manchin won but the the race was way closer then it should have been. The Big 12/ mcConnel stuff was a godsend to Manchin. He could hit the talk shows and newspapersb and talk up about how he was fighting for WVU and by doing so put a lot of the ill will WVU alums had for him in the past.

The Manchin people should have sent the McConnell people flowers for all that publicity. It was just what he needed.

Jackson

I agree with your take on Manchin and McConnell, Jackson. But you've got to admit, it's pretty ironic...

As for the tone of the thread, the OP asked about the confusion before the decision was made final. The information about the networks' preference for WVU had come out prior to the confusion...

(05-05-2012 07:15 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I agree with your take on Manchin and McConnell, Jackson. But you've got to admit, it's pretty ironic...

As for the tone of the thread, the OP asked about the confusion before the decision was made final. The information about the networks' preference for WVU had come out prior to the confusion...

There was an article shortly afterwards that said it had nothing to do with UL or WVU. There was some sort of hangup with Missouri leaving. When the UL/WVU story came out, they left it out there. They didn't explain what the Missouri hangup was, but left the implication it was some sort of negotiation and the UL/WVU cover story served their purposes.

(05-05-2012 08:25 AM)General Mike Wrote:  WVU agreed to join for 2012, and Louisville wouldn't. End of story.

Keep believing that.

Conference Realignment is about Football and WVU has a better current football program than Louisville and a richer history and tradition - that includes two undefeated regular season and 3 BCS bowl wins. Louisville has a solid football program but I don't think there is any debate that WVU has the better overall football program.

This is easy.

The B12 chose West Virginia over Louisville for the exact same reason that the ACC chose Pitt and Syracuse over West Virginia: they were studied and deemed to be more valuable programs - period.

There is absolutely no mystery to any of it.

It's all good though Cards fans. You are next in line and you will be in the B12 sooner rather than later. Trust me on that one. Now, which team will be joining you, that is a bit more complicated. However you are basically set.