(05-03-2012 09:11 AM)asumike83 Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 08:44 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  The SBC has an opportunity here to lift itself up and become something more than it was - this is what Benson is trying to do. Instead, all you small-market schools just want to add more small market schools and keep the conference down.

What are you afraid of? It is like battered-wife syndrome in here! Let's do what we need to do to get a football CG - add NMSU and Idaho

If I understand this correctly, part of your plan to stop adding small market schools that keep the conference down is expanding football membership 2,000 miles northwest to Moscow, ID?

Yes, "football" being the operative word. It is about profile - Idaho and NMSU are already FBS schools and have been for a while. They also add states we are not in. Truthfully, I would prefer NMSU and Appy for that reason, but since you guys seem attached at the hip to GaSo, Idaho becomes the better option.

Plus, I really like the Eastern division of FAU, GSU, USA, Troy, MTSU and WKU, so I want two added in the west. However, if Appy were to come in, I guess WKU could go west.

(05-03-2012 09:24 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:11 AM)asumike83 Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 08:44 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  The SBC has an opportunity here to lift itself up and become something more than it was - this is what Benson is trying to do. Instead, all you small-market schools just want to add more small market schools and keep the conference down.

What are you afraid of? It is like battered-wife syndrome in here! Let's do what we need to do to get a football CG - add NMSU and Idaho

If I understand this correctly, part of your plan to stop adding small market schools that keep the conference down is expanding football membership 2,000 miles northwest to Moscow, ID?

Yes, "football" being the operative word. It is about profile - Idaho and NMSU are already FBS schools and have been for a while. They also add states we are not in. Truthfully, I would prefer NMSU and Appy for that reason, but since you guys seem attached at the hip to GaSo, Idaho becomes the better option.

Plus, I really like the Eastern division of FAU, GSU, USA, Troy, MTSU and WKU, so I want two added in the west. However, if Appy were to come in, I guess WKU could go west.

I'm positive Idaho even though a FBS school is not an option even for football.
NMSU could help being FBS already but there will need to be 1 more FCS to upgrade. Which FCS school is ready to make the jump quickly may be the biggest issue.
No need to rush now with 10 fb schools. (especially if UTA is going to move to the SB for 12 bb schools). The problem is the Sunbelt will have FCS schools in transition up until 2015 if the addition takes place in 2013 that a CCG won't be able to really happen since basically 2 teams in the east divison will not be eligible.

(05-03-2012 08:44 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  ...The SBC has an opportunity here to lift itself up and become something more than it was - this is what Benson is trying to do. Instead, all you small-market schools just want to add more small market schools and keep the conference down....

There's too much focus on tv markets. At some point in time you actually have to play the game on the field, App St and GaSouthern bring strong winning traditions in this area.

Assuming N Texas and FIU are leaving and the conference wishes to go to 12 and form divisions. The only FBS options are Idaho and New Mexico St, both way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often. Inside/near the footprint it has to be a FCS move-up. App State, GaSouthern, Liberty, James Madison, Jacksonville St, Sam Houston and Lamar appear to be the only options. Pick 2.

Looking at the FCS options, none are located in major markets. App and GaSouthern could bring an instant rivalry, good attendance, great football history, and expand the conference into new areas without overly bloating the footprint of the league. App & GaSouthern can guarantee a combined 45,000 butts in seats watching the Sun Belt every home football game.

(05-03-2012 09:58 AM)97App Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 08:44 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  ...The SBC has an opportunity here to lift itself up and become something more than it was - this is what Benson is trying to do. Instead, all you small-market schools just want to add more small market schools and keep the conference down....

There's too much focus on tv markets. At some point in time you actually have to play the game on the field, App St and GaSouthern bring strong winning traditions in this area.

Assuming N Texas and FIU are leaving and the conference wishes to go to 12 and form divisions. The only FBS options are Idaho and New Mexico St, both way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often. Inside/near the footprint it has to be a FCS move-up. App State, GaSouthern, Liberty, James Madison, Jacksonville St, Sam Houston and Lamar appear to be the only options. Pick 2.

Looking at the FCS options, none are located in major markets. App and GaSouthern could bring an instant rivalry, good attendance, great football history, and expand the conference into new areas without overly bloating the footprint of the league. App & GaSouthern can guarantee a combined 45,000 butts in seats watching the Sun Belt every home football game.

"You have already given as many reputation ratings as you are allowed to for today."

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(05-03-2012 09:58 AM)97App Wrote:  There's too much focus on tv markets....The only FBS options are Idaho and New Mexico St, both way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often.

There is not enough focus on TV markets among SBC fans - that is the problem. As for NMSU being "way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often", he has mentioned Texas often, they are 25 miles from Texas. Appy is further away from the footprint.

(05-03-2012 10:07 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:58 AM)97App Wrote:  There's too much focus on tv markets....The only FBS options are Idaho and New Mexico St, both way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often.

There is not enough focus on TV markets among SBC fans - that is the problem. As for NMSU being "way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often", he has mentioned Texas often, they are 25 miles from Texas. Appy is further away from the footprint.

Holy crap, can you just be real and quit trying to spin it...

Texas State to NMSU is 690 driving miles

Georgia State to App State is 300 Miles.

(05-03-2012 10:07 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  There is not enough focus on TV markets among SBC fans - that is the problem. As for NMSU being "way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often", he has mentioned Texas often, they are 25 miles from Texas. Appy is further away from the footprint.

Yes, pay no attention to the fact Texas itself is 700 miles wide.

Keep making yourself look ridiculous, it fits.

(05-03-2012 10:07 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:58 AM)97App Wrote:  There's too much focus on tv markets....The only FBS options are Idaho and New Mexico St, both way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often.

There is not enough focus on TV markets among SBC fans - that is the problem. As for NMSU being "way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often", he has mentioned Texas often, they are 25 miles from Texas. Appy is further away from the footprint.

Yes but they are also closer to the pacific that they are to any other entire conference membership.

(05-03-2012 10:15 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 10:07 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:58 AM)97App Wrote:  There's too much focus on tv markets....The only FBS options are Idaho and New Mexico St, both way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often.

There is not enough focus on TV markets among SBC fans - that is the problem. As for NMSU being "way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often", he has mentioned Texas often, they are 25 miles from Texas. Appy is further away from the footprint.

Yes but they are also closer to the pacific that they are to any other entire conference membership.

Correct.......and?

(05-03-2012 10:12 AM)GaSouthern Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 10:07 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:58 AM)97App Wrote:  There's too much focus on tv markets....The only FBS options are Idaho and New Mexico St, both way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often.

There is not enough focus on TV markets among SBC fans - that is the problem. As for NMSU being "way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often", he has mentioned Texas often, they are 25 miles from Texas. Appy is further away from the footprint.

Holy crap, can you just be real and quit trying to spin it...

Texas State to NMSU is 690 driving miles

Georgia State to App State is 300 Miles.

Nice spin from you as well.

Let's to an apples/apples comparison.

It is 50 miles farther from TSU (the closest school to NMSU) than it is from Troy to Boca Raton (FAU's nearest neighbor.)

NMSU isn't any worse than FAU as far as geography and mileage are concerned.

The one thing that makes NMSU less attractive is the Mountain Time Zone....not the distance.

(05-03-2012 10:33 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 10:15 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 10:07 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:58 AM)97App Wrote:  There's too much focus on tv markets....The only FBS options are Idaho and New Mexico St, both way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often.

There is not enough focus on TV markets among SBC fans - that is the problem. As for NMSU being "way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often", he has mentioned Texas often, they are 25 miles from Texas. Appy is further away from the footprint.

Yes but they are also closer to the pacific that they are to any other entire conference membership.

Correct.......and?

The footprint doesnt start from the state line genius, it starts from the closest school.

FAIL

(05-03-2012 10:33 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 10:15 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 10:07 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:58 AM)97App Wrote:  There's too much focus on tv markets....The only FBS options are Idaho and New Mexico St, both way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often.

There is not enough focus on TV markets among SBC fans - that is the problem. As for NMSU being "way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often", he has mentioned Texas often, they are 25 miles from Texas. Appy is further away from the footprint.

Yes but they are also closer to the pacific that they are to any other entire conference membership.

Correct.......and?

That would make them an outlier.


You can't really be this dense, we know you are just trying to spin things so App and Southern don't join and take your schools lunch money each year on the field. Don't worry. Once we announce the anticipation will be over and you'll sleep better at night. :)

(05-03-2012 10:14 AM)Glassonion Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 10:07 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  There is not enough focus on TV markets among SBC fans - that is the problem. As for NMSU being "way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often", he has mentioned Texas often, they are 25 miles from Texas. Appy is further away from the footprint.

Yes, pay no attention to the fact Texas itself is 700 miles wide.

Keep making yourself look ridiculous, it fits.

The point being that, like NC, NM is a natural extension of the footprint. If you are so stuck on Benson's comments about staying within the footprint, Appy has no shot.

(05-03-2012 10:36 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 10:12 AM)GaSouthern Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 10:07 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:58 AM)97App Wrote:  There's too much focus on tv markets....The only FBS options are Idaho and New Mexico St, both way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often.

There is not enough focus on TV markets among SBC fans - that is the problem. As for NMSU being "way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often", he has mentioned Texas often, they are 25 miles from Texas. Appy is further away from the footprint.

Holy crap, can you just be real and quit trying to spin it...

Texas State to NMSU is 690 driving miles

Georgia State to App State is 300 Miles.

Nice spin from you as well.

Let's to an apples/apples comparison.

It is 50 miles farther from TSU (the closest school to NMSU) than it is from Troy to Boca Raton (FAU's nearest neighbor.)

NMSU isn't any worse than FAU as far as geography and mileage are concerned.

The one thing that makes NMSU less attractive is the Mountain Time Zone....not the distance.

So you spin it right back by comparing it to the FURTHEST SB school as if thats some kind of standard?

FAU is an outlier, and if they want in the state of florida, there isnt much other choice. Nobody cares about being in NM.

(05-03-2012 10:36 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 10:12 AM)GaSouthern Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 10:07 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:58 AM)97App Wrote:  There's too much focus on tv markets....The only FBS options are Idaho and New Mexico St, both way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often.

There is not enough focus on TV markets among SBC fans - that is the problem. As for NMSU being "way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often", he has mentioned Texas often, they are 25 miles from Texas. Appy is further away from the footprint.

Holy crap, can you just be real and quit trying to spin it...

Texas State to NMSU is 690 driving miles

Georgia State to App State is 300 Miles.

Nice spin from you as well.

Let's to an apples/apples comparison.

It is 50 miles farther from TSU (the closest school to NMSU) than it is from Troy to Boca Raton (FAU's nearest neighbor.)

NMSU isn't any worse than FAU as far as geography and mileage are concerned.

The one thing that makes NMSU less attractive is the Mountain Time Zone....not the distance.

Were talking about Adding FAU to the sun belt now?

Well holy crap I had no idea.

(05-03-2012 08:45 AM)GaSouthern Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 08:36 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  In yesterday's interview, he stated he has not been to Statesboro or Boone.

So go ahead and tell us who you don't want in the conference?

I really don't care who is in the conference. I'm welcoming TSU and (soon) UTA to the league.

If Ga. Southern or App are added, I'll welcome them as well.

I'm just saying I don't think it's going to happen this year.

I have no problems with either school (although travel will be difficult for teams that don't bus, especially to Boone) joining the league.

I DO have an issue with adding four FCS moveups all at once. We already have a perception problem in our league. Adding four would really hurt us from a perception standpoint, although Ga Southern and App certainly have a better FCS track record than the additions already made.

(05-03-2012 10:38 AM)Seven Would Be Nice Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 10:33 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 10:15 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 10:07 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 09:58 AM)97App Wrote:  There's too much focus on tv markets....The only FBS options are Idaho and New Mexico St, both way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often.

There is not enough focus on TV markets among SBC fans - that is the problem. As for NMSU being "way outside of the footprint Benson has mentioned often", he has mentioned Texas often, they are 25 miles from Texas. Appy is further away from the footprint.

Yes but they are also closer to the pacific that they are to any other entire conference membership.

Correct.......and?

That would make them an outlier.

You can't really be this dense, we know you are just trying to spin things so App and Southern don't join and take your schools lunch money each year on the field. Don't worry. Once we announce the anticipation will be over and you'll sleep better at night. :)

Somebody's got to be an outlier. FAU is an outlier - hell, they are closer to frickin' Cuba than any other SBC school....the horror!!!

I find it hilarious that all these Southern and Appy fans keep taking it personal and giving me negative ratings, while I would never use such a childish tactic. That's ok though, a negative rating from a GaSot is a badge of honor.

(05-03-2012 10:43 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  I find it hilarious that all these Southern and Appy fans keep taking it personal and giving me negative ratings, while I would never use such a childish tactic. That's ok though, a negative rating from a GaSot is a badge of honor.

You are one of the only GaSta fans getting negative raitings, and you are proud of this feat?

(05-03-2012 10:43 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  Somebody's got to be an outlier. FAU is an outlier - hell, they are closer to frickin' Cuba than any other SBC school....the horror!!!

I find it hilarious that all these Southern and Appy fans keep taking it personal and giving me negative ratings, while I would never use such a childish tactic. That's ok though, a negative rating from a GaSot is a badge of honor.

Yes, its only Southern and Appy fans. I guess that explains why GaSt fans arent even associating with you. Every fanbase has a couple guys that make them look bad, for GaSt, that guys you.

(05-03-2012 10:36 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Let's to an apples/apples comparison.

It is 50 miles farther from TSU (the closest school to NMSU) than it is from Troy to Boca Raton (FAU's nearest neighbor.)

NMSU isn't any worse than FAU as far as geography and mileage are concerned.

The one thing that makes NMSU less attractive is the Mountain Time Zone....not the distance.

I do not disagree with any of that, but FAU is an outlier. Although I'm sure they would love a travel partner to bridge the gap, there does not appear to be any option to do that. Adding a second outlier on the western side would just make travel that much more difficult. I can see some value in NMSU though, they certainly would improve hoops. Idaho would be a real head-scratcher.