Marack Obamney

Best part was watching Obama get slammed on the Patriot Act at 6:50 ... especially where he precedes to rail on Dubya for all the crap he is still doing.

(04-24-2012 12:53 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Best part was watching Obama get slammed on the Patriot Act at 6:50 ... especially where he precedes to rail on Dubya for all the crap he has made worse.

FIFY.

To his credit Obama did end torture. (Yes I am aware of extradition but it's not torture). He still hasn't closed Gitmo as promised though, and the NDAA was terrible.

(04-24-2012 11:45 AM)Max Power Wrote:  To his credit Obama did end torture. (Yes I am aware of extradition but it's not torture). He still hasn't closed Gitmo as promised though, and the NDAA was terrible.

To be fair,do we really know if he ended torture?

(04-24-2012 12:44 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Marack Obamney

Really? You're insinuating that Obama and Romney are one of the same?

I find it so bizarre that in the world of the Paul purist that political incrementalism, no matter how far and how fast it moves, is never enough. It’s all Paul, or it’s nothing..... /eyeroll

GTS, it's easy to be bearish on the GOP amid a fight among rather weak candidates, including Mitt Romney. But it's very important that you and the Paul supporters understand that it will take everyone, even those Republican candidates that you might ordinarily disdain, for there to be real conservative electoral success in the fall.

(04-24-2012 11:45 AM)Max Power Wrote:  To his credit Obama did end torture. (Yes I am aware of extradition but it's not torture). He still hasn't closed Gitmo as promised though, and the NDAA was terrible.

"Hi, I'm Bradley Manning, and I'd like to dispute that statement. Maybe we can talk during the one hour per day I get out of isolation. I hope you don't mind that I'll be forced to be nude."

(04-24-2012 11:55 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 11:45 AM)Max Power Wrote:  To his credit Obama did end torture. (Yes I am aware of extradition but it's not torture). He still hasn't closed Gitmo as promised though, and the NDAA was terrible.

"Hi, I'm Bradley Manning, and I'd like to dispute that statement. Maybe we can talk during the one hour per day I get out of isolation. I hope you don't mind that I'll be forced to be nude."

(04-24-2012 11:54 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 12:44 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Marack Obamney

Really? You're insinuating that Obama and Romney are one of the same?

I find it so bizarre that in the world of the Paul purist that political incrementalism, no matter how far and how fast it moves, is never enough. It’s all Paul, or it’s nothing..... /eyeroll

GTS, it's easy to be bearish on the GOP amid a fight among rather weak candidates, including Mitt Romney. But it's very important that you and the Paul supporters understand that it will take everyone, even those Republican candidates that you might ordinarily disdain, for there to be real conservative electoral success in the fall.

Dubya was 8 years of repeated reminders through sodomy that choosing a slightly watered down version of what you hate will still result in a lot of garbage you hate.

What does anything but November 2012 have to do with anything at this point in time? One of the most unsettling things I hear from Ron Paul supporters – some of them, anyway but yes you – is that if you don’t vote for Paul, you’re basically voting for someone just the same as Barack Obama.

The fact that George Bush was way way way more conservative than Barack Obama counts for nothing, because he wasn’t as conservative / pure as Paul? The fact that Mitt Romney is way way way more conservative than Barack Obama counts for nothing, because he wasn’t as conservative / pure as Paul? That's ridiculous.

Please remember that the GOP of the recent past, the current present, and the probable future is as much John Kline and Michele Bachmann (if that's important to you) as it is George Bush and Tim Pawlenty (if that's important to you) and Paul Ryan and Rand Paul (if that's important to you.)

And all of the above are not Barack Obama!

(04-24-2012 02:33 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  And all of the above are not Barack Obama!

If you allow yourself to get sucked up into the mantra of voting against the other guy instead of FOR someone ... you've already lost.

(04-24-2012 02:50 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 02:33 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  And all of the above are not Barack Obama!

If you allow yourself to get sucked up into the mantra of voting against the other guy instead of FOR someone ... you've already lost.

I think you just made his point...

(04-24-2012 02:33 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  What does anything but November 2012 have to do with anything at this point in time? One of the most unsettling things I hear from Ron Paul supporters – some of them, anyway but yes you – is that if you don’t vote for Paul, you’re basically voting for someone just the same as Barack Obama.

The fact that George Bush was way way way more conservative than Barack Obama counts for nothing, because he wasn’t as conservative / pure as Paul? The fact that Mitt Romney is way way way more conservative than Barack Obama counts for nothing, because he wasn’t as conservative / pure as Paul? That's ridiculous.

Please remember that the GOP of the recent past, the current present, and the probable future is as much John Kline and Michele Bachmann (if that's important to you) as it is George Bush and Tim Pawlenty (if that's important to you) and Paul Ryan and Rand Paul (if that's important to you.)

And all of the above are not Barack Obama!

LS - you would think that someone that was rational would see that there is a difference, but when it comes to Ron Paul - obviously not.

I guess with some age, you realize that rarely do you get everything you want, and often taking the "best available" is better than nothing. Kind of like starving - being offered hamburger, but turning it down because it's not Filet Mignon.

(04-24-2012 02:51 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  I think you just made his point...

*sigh* ... do I really need to explain how Dubya and Obama are oh so very close together? Did the video somehow not make the point?

Their only major philosophic difference is on social issues, and I actually agree more with Obama than Dubya there (sorry, I don't hate gays...). Beyond that they both endorse a big government solution ... it is merely an issue of how to best carry it out.

(04-24-2012 03:14 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 02:51 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  I think you just made his point...

*sigh* ... do I really need to explain how Dubya and Obama are oh so very close together? Did the video somehow not make the point?

Their only major philosophic difference is on social issues, and I actually agree more with Obama than Dubya there (sorry, I don't hate gays...). Beyond that they both endorse a big government solution ... it is merely an issue of how to best carry it out.

I thought we were talking about Romney? Why are you mentioning Bush?

(04-24-2012 03:15 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 03:14 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 02:51 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  I think you just made his point...

*sigh* ... do I really need to explain how Dubya and Obama are oh so very close together? Did the video somehow not make the point?

Their only major philosophic difference is on social issues, and I actually agree more with Obama than Dubya there (sorry, I don't hate gays...). Beyond that they both endorse a big government solution ... it is merely an issue of how to best carry it out.

I thought we were talking about Romney? Why are you mentioning Bush?

Bush: TARP bailout ...... Obama: GM bailout
Bush: No Child Left Behind .... Obama: Race To The Top
Bush: Undeclared war in Afghanistan, Iraq ...... Obama: Undeclared war in Afghanistan, Iraq ... additional undeclared activity in Syria, Lybia, Egypt
Bush: Military Commission Act .... Obama: NDAA
Bush: Patriot Act ...... Obama: More Patriot Act
Bush: War on drugs ...... Obama: More War on drugs
Bush: Record deficits, both annually and cumulatively ...... Obama: New record deficits, both annually and cumulatively
Bush: Easy Fed money ......... Obama: More easy Fed money
Bush: Unfunded tax cuts (e.g. deferred tax increases) ...... Obama: More tax increases directly


All of these policies are supported by Romney as well.

(04-24-2012 03:58 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 03:15 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 03:14 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 02:51 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  I think you just made his point...

*sigh* ... do I really need to explain how Dubya and Obama are oh so very close together? Did the video somehow not make the point?

Their only major philosophic difference is on social issues, and I actually agree more with Obama than Dubya there (sorry, I don't hate gays...). Beyond that they both endorse a big government solution ... it is merely an issue of how to best carry it out.

I thought we were talking about Romney? Why are you mentioning Bush?

Bush: TARP bailout ...... Obama: GM bailout
Bush: No Child Left Behind .... Obama: Race To The Top
Bush: Undeclared war in Afghanistan, Iraq ...... Obama: Undeclared war in Afghanistan, Iraq ... additional undeclared activity in Syria, Lybia, Egypt
Bush: Military Commission Act .... Obama: NDAA
Bush: Patriot Act ...... Obama: More Patriot Act
Bush: War on drugs ...... Obama: More War on drugs
Bush: Record deficits, both annually and cumulatively ...... Obama: New record deficits, both annually and cumulatively
Bush: Easy Fed money ......... Obama: More easy Fed money
Bush: Unfunded tax cuts (e.g. deferred tax increases) ...... Obama: More tax increases directly


All of these policies are supported by Romney as well.

So you're comparing the legislation enacted under Bush and Obama and using that as a reason not to vote for Romney because you "THINK" he will have enough support in both houses to pass similar legislation? Look man I support RP more and more everyday but the fact is Romney is our only real shot of beating Obama. I'll probably pull the lever for RP next month and for Romney this fall...such is life.

Video recorders: coming back to bite hypocritical politicians in the ass on a daily basis.

(04-24-2012 03:58 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 03:15 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 03:14 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 02:51 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  I think you just made his point...

*sigh* ... do I really need to explain how Dubya and Obama are oh so very close together? Did the video somehow not make the point?

Their only major philosophic difference is on social issues, and I actually agree more with Obama than Dubya there (sorry, I don't hate gays...). Beyond that they both endorse a big government solution ... it is merely an issue of how to best carry it out.

I thought we were talking about Romney? Why are you mentioning Bush?

Bush: TARP bailout ...... Obama: GM bailout
Bush: No Child Left Behind .... Obama: Race To The Top
Bush: Undeclared war in Afghanistan, Iraq ...... Obama: Undeclared war in Afghanistan, Iraq ... additional undeclared activity in Syria, Lybia, Egypt
Bush: Military Commission Act .... Obama: NDAA
Bush: Patriot Act ...... Obama: More Patriot Act
Bush: War on drugs ...... Obama: More War on drugs
Bush: Record deficits, both annually and cumulatively ...... Obama: New record deficits, both annually and cumulatively
Bush: Easy Fed money ......... Obama: More easy Fed money
Bush: Unfunded tax cuts (e.g. deferred tax increases) ...... Obama: More tax increases directly


All of these policies are supported by Romney as well.

Please don't try and show the obvious to Marx Power. His head will explode at anything negative directed toward his Savior.

Here comes the new boss....Same as the old boss, only with MORE power grabbed. The only thing that changes is the color of their gang sig.

(04-24-2012 04:10 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 03:58 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 03:15 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 03:14 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 02:51 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  I think you just made his point...

*sigh* ... do I really need to explain how Dubya and Obama are oh so very close together? Did the video somehow not make the point?

Their only major philosophic difference is on social issues, and I actually agree more with Obama than Dubya there (sorry, I don't hate gays...). Beyond that they both endorse a big government solution ... it is merely an issue of how to best carry it out.

I thought we were talking about Romney? Why are you mentioning Bush?

Bush: TARP bailout ...... Obama: GM bailout
Bush: No Child Left Behind .... Obama: Race To The Top
Bush: Undeclared war in Afghanistan, Iraq ...... Obama: Undeclared war in Afghanistan, Iraq ... additional undeclared activity in Syria, Lybia, Egypt
Bush: Military Commission Act .... Obama: NDAA
Bush: Patriot Act ...... Obama: More Patriot Act
Bush: War on drugs ...... Obama: More War on drugs
Bush: Record deficits, both annually and cumulatively ...... Obama: New record deficits, both annually and cumulatively
Bush: Easy Fed money ......... Obama: More easy Fed money
Bush: Unfunded tax cuts (e.g. deferred tax increases) ...... Obama: More tax increases directly


All of these policies are supported by Romney as well.

So you're comparing the legislation enacted under Bush and Obama and using that as a reason not to vote for Romney because you "THINK" he will have enough support in both houses to pass similar legislation? Look man I support RP more and more everyday but the fact is Romney is our only real shot of beating Obama. I'll probably pull the lever for RP next month and for Romney this fall...such is life.

There is ONLY one candidate to vote for if one wants to slow down the growth of government. That is why he can't win. NEITHER party wants to downsize government. They just want to make it look as if they do. When they get elected...they just continue the march toward total federalism.