I want LTU for selfish reasons. I want to drink at the Dawghouse. Then I want to go to the Zeta Chi (formerly ATO) and watch some hot chicks walk around and then I want to walk to to Joe Alliet over the railroad tracks and practice soccer fields and watch LTU beat every team not named Southern Miss in CUSA. Thats what I would like. Makes as much sense as adding Akron to me.
(04-20-2012 08:32 PM)cyc46 Wrote: I want LTU for selfish reasons. I want to drink at the Dawghouse. Then I want to go to the Zeta Chi (formerly ATO) and watch some hot chicks walk around and then I want to walk to to Joe Alliet over the railroad tracks and practice soccer fields and watch LTU beat every team not named Southern Miss in CUSA. Thats what I would like. Makes as much sense as adding Akron to me.
Well its a bad fit LTU grows then graduation happens. then former LTU students move away and once again become LSU fans..they dont grow their fan base they replace fans they once had..USM hates miss st and ole miss correct..Not many USM fans are UM or MSU fans also..Tech is different, Most fans here are LTU fans when LSU isnt playing!! thats not what any conference wants..
(04-20-2012 08:32 PM)cyc46 Wrote: I want LTU for selfish reasons. I want to drink at the Dawghouse. Then I want to go to the Zeta Chi (formerly ATO) and watch some hot chicks walk around and then I want to walk to to Joe Alliet over the railroad tracks and practice soccer fields and watch LTU beat every team not named Southern Miss in CUSA. Thats what I would like. Makes as much sense as adding Akron to me.
Also why not ULL. Thats not thats much further than Tech is from hattiesburg..Or if you like then whole memphis trip why not Ark st who really seems to building something. C-USA has options. LTU in my opinion is not a "good" option..
My opinion:
1. FIU is best #1 team CUSA can contact
Big market but they win which is why UNT shouldnt be considered.
2. ULL.tied for #2 best fit..
Yes they are close to tulane, however this team has a fired up fanbase they showed they will back a winning team!
2.Arkansas State. #2 best fit
Replaces memphis but with better football team. Team is booming. Hired Gus Malzahn one of the coaches that any school would love to have on staff. Lots of Upside. Gowing prettty fast.
3. UNT #3 or 4 best fit depends on how you look at it
Big market but not a major peice of that market. New stadium, Money but doesnt always equal success look at vanderbilt..Tons of money big Market and has been bottom dwellar of SEC
4. LTU #4 or #5 best fit
No fan Support. Will never get it as long as 75% of students wear other school logos around campus. If it wasnt for the super loud Video screen stadium would be dead.
(This post was last modified: 04-20-2012 11:40 PM by RustonCAT.)
(04-20-2012 08:32 PM)cyc46 Wrote: I want LTU for selfish reasons. I want to drink at the Dawghouse. Then I want to go to the Zeta Chi (formerly ATO) and watch some hot chicks walk around and then I want to walk to to Joe Alliet over the railroad tracks and practice soccer fields and watch LTU beat every team not named Southern Miss in CUSA. Thats what I would like. Makes as much sense as adding Akron to me.
Also why not ULL. Thats not thats much further than Tech is from hattiesburg..Or if you like then whole memphis trip why not Ark st who really seems to building something. C-USA has options. LTU in my opinion is not a "good" option..
My opinion:
1. FIU is best #1 team CUSA can contact
Big market but they win which is why UNT shouldnt be considered.
2. ULL.tied for #2 best fit..
Yes they are close to tulane, however this team has a fired up fanbase they showed they will back a winning team!
2.Arkansas State. #2 best fit
Replaces memphis but with better football team. Team is booming. Hired Gus Malzahn one of the coaches that any school would love to have on staff. Lots of Upside. Gowing prettty fast.
3. UNT #3 or 4 best fit depends on how you look at it
Big market but not a major peice of that market. New stadium, Money but doesnt always equal success look at vanderbilt..Tons of money big Market and has been bottom dwellar of SEC
4. LTU #4 or #5 best fit
No fan Support. Will never get it as long as 75% of students wear other school logos around campus. If it wasnt for the super loud Video screen stadium would be dead.
This is off topic but wow it's funny reading this guys reputation comments.
"The Sun Belt sucks, and we aren't taking all those belch teams." Quote from MinerTime.
What a difference a year makes.
(This post was last modified: 04-21-2012 02:20 AM by TrojanCampaign.)
(04-20-2012 08:32 PM)cyc46 Wrote: I want LTU for selfish reasons. I want to drink at the Dawghouse. Then I want to go to the Zeta Chi (formerly ATO) and watch some hot chicks walk around and then I want to walk to to Joe Alliet over the railroad tracks and practice soccer fields and watch LTU beat every team not named Southern Miss in CUSA. Thats what I would like. Makes as much sense as adding Akron to me.
Well its a bad fit LTU grows then graduation happens. then former LTU students move away and once again become LSU fans..they dont grow their fan base they replace fans they once had..USM hates miss st and ole miss correct..Not many USM fans are UM or MSU fans also..Tech is different, Most fans here are LTU fans when LSU isnt playing!! thats not what any conference wants..
Whoever you are I really dont care. If you would reread my post I stated I wanted them for selfish reasons which would imply there are other reasons that they would not be wanted by others. I dont need a course on which schools would be a good fit for cusa or the alliance. I guarantee you I am one of the few who has went to most expansion schools at some point watched a game and walked around the stadium. I basically watched the UNT stadium being built from the ground up. I know who has what. At this point there is no top tier program (in any sport to add). Besides if you hate LTU so much why are you on a CUSA message board I hear tigerbait.com has room on their message boards for new posters
(This post was last modified: 04-21-2012 08:34 AM by cyc46.)
(04-20-2012 11:23 PM)RustonCAT Wrote: Well its a bad fit LTU grows then graduation happens. then former LTU students move away and once again become LSU fans..they dont grow their fan base they replace fans they once had..USM hates miss st and ole miss correct..Not many USM fans are UM or MSU fans also..Tech is different, Most fans here are LTU fans when LSU isnt playing!! thats not what any conference wants..
You ever been on campus at USM? I see more SEC gear walking around here than most places. USM folks might hate OM and MSU, but they love Auburn and Bummer and LSU.
(This post was last modified: 04-21-2012 08:55 AM by GCEagle.)
It isn't even true that Tech students wear LSUcks crap around campus. Most of the students & teachers get p.o. if they see someone walk into their class wearing that purple and gold s***. And when it comes to schools in Louisiana hating LSU, LaTech is #1
(04-21-2012 07:30 AM)Flat Tire 2 Wrote: Marshall almost hired the famous Jerry Faust after he left Notre Dame. Thankfully Jerry ended up at Akron and Herd fans are forever grateful to Akron!
Isn't that the year we hired Parrish, who was here 2 years. The only place Parrish ever won at was at Marshall.
Akron is perfect for the MAC because of the large number of alumni in the region and the STO coverage of the MAC in Ohio in the greater Cleveland area. Akron's biggest rival is Kent State. Akron loses its biggest draw if they left the MAC. The is no team in CUSA or MWC that would out draw Kent State and Ohio games for Akron. Why would Akron leave the MAC to play in a conference with UTEP, Rice and Tulane and high travel cost. MAC has been great for Akron since they left the OVC. Having the MAC basketball tournament in Cleveland is a huge plus for Akron's fans. Marshall made a lot of money moving to CUSA, but the money is drying up with the exits of UCF, Houston, SMU and Memphis following the exits of Louisville, Cincinnati, USF and TCU. CUSA will never recover from that. In the same period of time the MAC lost UCF(football), Marshall and Temple(football). CUSA has fallen back to where the MAC is over the last ten years. Tulsa, UTEP and UAB basketball have slipped in that same time frame. Ironic is that the MAC may add JMU, Delaware and ODU as its 14, 15, and 16th teams. Those are who CUSA should be adding instead of a failed western alliance with teams from Nevada, New Mexico and Wyoming that bring zero TV and late nite start time in the east coast when fans are in bed.
(04-21-2012 12:40 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote: Akron is perfect for the MAC because of the large number of alumni in the region and the STO coverage of the MAC in Ohio in the greater Cleveland area. Akron's biggest rival is Kent State. Akron loses its biggest draw if they left the MAC. The is no team in CUSA or MWC that would out draw Kent State and Ohio games for Akron. Why would Akron leave the MAC to play in a conference with UTEP, Rice and Tulane and high travel cost. MAC has been great for Akron since they left the OVC. Having the MAC basketball tournament in Cleveland is a huge plus for Akron's fans. Marshall made a lot of money moving to CUSA, but the money is drying up with the exits of UCF, Houston, SMU and Memphis following the exits of Louisville, Cincinnati, USF and TCU. CUSA will never recover from that. In the same period of time the MAC lost UCF(football), Marshall and Temple(football). CUSA has fallen back to where the MAC is over the last ten years. Tulsa, UTEP and UAB basketball have slipped in that same time frame. Ironic is that the MAC may add JMU, Delaware and ODU as its 14, 15, and 16th teams. Those are who CUSA should be adding instead of a failed western alliance with teams from Nevada, New Mexico and Wyoming that bring zero TV and late nite start time in the east coast when fans are in bed.
Actually it sounds like the money is increasing, even if it is a smaller increase than what we hoped for. The MAC is a fine, very regional, conference without any hope of making good media money. Nothing wrong with that. And as for Akron playing in a conference with UTEP, Rice, Tulsa, etc., the only way Akron or Toledo or anyone else from the MAC would be playing in CUSA is if it gets big enough for more regional pods. And UTEP was rebuilding this year in basketball with an NIT appearance last year and an NCAA appearance the year before. UTEP, UAB and Tulsa will be fine and much better than the competition Ohio faces in the MAC.
(04-20-2012 10:44 AM)MUsince96 Wrote: I get UNT. I get FIU. I get, even like MTSU. What I don't get, and it's no offense to them, is LT. We already have a school in Louisiana and a plethora of schools in that part of the country. The conference and MU & ECU in general need teams in the Eastern time zone. I know Akron sucks right now; but with the coach, stadium, and market they could add a lot of value to the conference. Heck even adding Toledo and Ohio would be great. Ohio and even parts of Michigan would be adding TV sets to the league we don't have and help with Eastern time zone teams.
Akron in more appealing to you than LaTech? Wow!
If we want eastern tz teams, stick with ODU, Charlotte, and FIU....NOT Akron. Maybe if TheAlliance goes to 36 teams, then, maybe Akron gets on the short list.
Akron having a "DMA advantage" over LaTech does NOT mean you chose them solely on that reason. What is being watched by, not just LaTech and Akron fans, is very important to the big tv execs and fans of college football in general....and LaTech's "what" screams of being one of the (supposed) 24....and Akron's "what" is non existant.
(04-21-2012 11:47 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote: Doesn't Akron pretty much suck at everything?
That's why.
Akron won the NCAA national championship in men's soccer in 2010.
I'm sold.
NOT!
I'd much rather have Toledo cuz Toledo has much more of a fanbase and would be "in" if "The Alliance" were to go to 36 teams, at which point, Akron might get in.
In fact, UToledo and Ohio U are the only two Ohio (available) teams i'd want in my conference.
(This post was last modified: 04-21-2012 01:37 PM by fresnofanatic.)
(04-21-2012 12:40 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote: Akron is perfect for the MAC because of the large number of alumni in the region and the STO coverage of the MAC in Ohio in the greater Cleveland area. Akron's biggest rival is Kent State. Akron loses its biggest draw if they left the MAC. There is no team in CUSA or MWC that would out draw Kent State and Ohio games for Akron. Why would Akron leave the MAC to play in a conference with UTEP, Rice and Tulane and high travel cost. MAC has been great for Akron since they left the OVC. Having the MAC basketball tournament in Cleveland is a huge plus for Akron's fans. Marshall made a lot of money moving to CUSA, but the money is drying up with the exits of UCF, Houston, SMU and Memphis following the exits of Louisville, Cincinnati, USF and TCU. CUSA will never recover from that. In the same period of time the MAC lost UCF(football), Marshall and Temple(football). CUSA has fallen back to where the MAC is over the last ten years. Tulsa, UTEP and UAB basketball have slipped in that same time frame. Ironic is that the MAC may add JMU, Delaware and ODU as its 14, 15, and 16th teams. Those are who CUSA should be adding instead of a failed western alliance with teams from Nevada, New Mexico and Wyoming that bring zero TV and late nite start time in the east coast when fans are in bed.
What i boldfaced is why i agree with you that Akron Zippies DO NOT belong in CUSA, MWCUSA, whatever.
