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Listen all yall it's a sabotage....
Running across a comment here posted yesterday and with all this conflicting information can we draw any conclusions that there really might be a sabotage?

I mean, media interviews and comments by possible participants (read CURRENT CUSA and MWC members) keep stating the following almost ever time:

We are working out the details
We are looking at TV possibilities
We are looking at expansion possibly
We are committed to this


Then everyone outside of these decision makers keeps saying:

Not going to happen.
Trouble with _____.
Sources say not going to happen...


Is false major media reports designed to derail something that could actually pull off getting a good slice of the pie due to size, markets, and footprint?

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Posted this here for some outside the CUSA/MWC opinions on the matter

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RE: Listen all yall it's a sabotage....
Ya know....you might be onto somthing.

Brent McMurphy with the mustache and bad haircut does resemble "The Chief" in the video.



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RE: Listen all yall it's a sabotage....
Sounds awful Big Eastish to me to think there is a huge conspiracy.
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RE: Listen all yall it's a sabotage....
(04-19-2012 10:26 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  Sounds awful Big Eastish to me to think there is a huge conspiracy.

Then again.... 05-stirthepot03-shhhh


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But what I am saying is .... the ones DIRECTLY INVOLVED in making it happen are basically saying the thing is a go... just working on the fine print.

The ones reporting with leaks and "sources say" keep telling us the opposite.

Something smells fishy.
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RE: Listen all yall it's a sabotage....
(04-19-2012 10:32 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  
(04-19-2012 10:26 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  Sounds awful Big Eastish to me to think there is a huge conspiracy.

Then again.... 05-stirthepot03-shhhh


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But what I am saying is .... the ones DIRECTLY INVOLVED in making it happen are basically saying the thing is a go... just working on the fine print.

The ones reporting with leaks and "sources say" keep telling us the opposite.

Something smells fishy.

There may be a conspiracy, but honestly I doubt it's the media folks. History shows that, and BYU, Fresno State, and Boise support it. It didn't matter who they played, ESPN was happy to put them on the tube. They could have been playing the Highland High School JV team and ESPN was willing to put on as long as they played at a time other than Saturday. Hell, Boise built their current resume playing one OOC game against a recognizable AutoQualifier team, 11 games against scrubs, and a bowl game. BYU and Fresno laid the groundwork.

ECU's biggest problem is they have been selfish. Playing a strenuous OOC like ECU has done the past decade has done more harm than good.
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RE: Listen all yall it's a sabotage....
Or could it be that those in the process just don't want to admit what's being leaked is true? They're probably still working through details to find something that will work, but if they admit defeat just yet, they know it won't.

The problem is that from the get go, they have played this out through the media. The B1G and PAC pulled off their scheduling arrangement under wraps just fine. But when Banowsky and Thompson started running their mouths about the Alliance, they opened the doors to criticism and doubt. Granted, some of that was probably to gauge public reaction, but they kept yapping. Now everyone expects it to come about and the disappointment will be heard when it doesn't.

IMHO, there have been too many steps already taken for this NOT to happen at this point. Both MWC and CUSA schools have sought approval to look for affiliation elsewhere already, the deadline for adding teams is fast approaching and nothing has been done in that regard, and The Mtn. has been shut down. All signs that The Alliance is moving ahead, contrary to McMurphy's "sources."
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RE: Listen all yall it's a sabotage....
The greater the number and variety of entities involved in a venture like this, the greater the variety of leaks that are going to reach the media. That's why there's been so many "yes we are/no we're not" leaks out of the Big East, where one side isn't always talking to the other. Each person who leaked info probably thought he was telling the truth, but was only seeing things from his own perspective. Here we have two conferences, two commissioners, two or more networks, and a grab bag of universities, both public and private (and federal), religious and non-religious, flagships and directionals, some arriving from other conferences, some possibly leaving, still more possibly coming in, with at least one football-only, representing a huge range in academics from Rice to <insert college you hate> and every region of America except the North. Different stories are inevitably going to come out of that group. It's not like the Big Ten or SEC, where there's only one member significantly different from the others.
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(04-19-2012 09:43 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Listen all yall it's a sabotage....

[Image: hero719_hunt-for-red-october1.jpg]

"Who said anything about sabotage?"
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RE: Listen all yall it's a sabotage....
(04-19-2012 11:50 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  All signs that The Alliance is moving ahead, contrary to McMurphy's "sources."

I don't think McMurphy is as well-connected as he makes himself out to be. Sure, he gets fed some tidbits here and there but for the most part his articles are little more than spin.
I know people that actually know the guy and they can't believe that he's not living in a basement anymore and there's a segment of the internet community that follows what he says.
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I know one thing for sure... classic song, immortal video!
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(04-20-2012 07:28 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(04-19-2012 09:43 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Listen all yall it's a sabotage....

[Image: hero719_hunt-for-red-october1.jpg]

"Who said anything about sabotage?"

Every once in awhile I search to see if Hunt for Red October is on demand for the older movies. Never see it on TBS, etc. Only pay channels like HBO. A shame IMO.
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RE: Listen all yall it's a sabotage....
(04-20-2012 01:47 AM)LastMinuteman Wrote:  The greater the number and variety of entities involved in a venture like this, the greater the variety of leaks that are going to reach the media. That's why there's been so many "yes we are/no we're not" leaks out of the Big East, where one side isn't always talking to the other. Each person who leaked info probably thought he was telling the truth, but was only seeing things from his own perspective. Here we have two conferences, two commissioners, two or more networks, and a grab bag of universities, both public and private (and federal), religious and non-religious, flagships and directionals, some arriving from other conferences, some possibly leaving, still more possibly coming in, with at least one football-only, representing a huge range in academics from Rice to <insert college you hate> and every region of America except the North. Different stories are inevitably going to come out of that group. It's not like the Big Ten or SEC, where there's only one member significantly different from the others.

^^^THIS.

Also....if you believe certain posters everything ECU has ever been involved with has been sabotaged in some way, shape or form. LOL.
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